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Fire in Douglas - See Mod note in post #506

BurnsCarpenter

Anyone know what's going on? Looks close to m & s maybe.

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Dia_Anseo

beer enigma wrote: »

I think you'll find that's called libel

Not if it's true.

Plus you can't bleed a stone!

beer enigma

Dia_Anseo wrote: »

Word on the street in Douglas is that the shopping centre was struggling financially so what better way to set it ablaze and get the insurance money before the company goes bust.

That shopping centre will be shut for years and be an eyesore

I think you'll find that's called libel

Dia_Anseo

That shopping centre was flooded in 2012

7 years later goes on fire

ScrubsfanChris

Dia_Anseo wrote: »

I hate to say I told ye so!
That'll take years to sort with insurance, planning etc

But is it just the car park that'll be closed or the entire shopping centre?

Try reading the rest of the notice before commenting.

lawrencesummers

mikeecho wrote: »

Imagine if your car was vandalised, that's not your fault.
Yet you would still have to claim off your own insurance, and risk losing your NCB.

Now, if the person responsible was identified, you could take a civil action, but your NCB will still be affected.

Imagine that was in anyway relevant.

Dia_Anseo

I hate to say I told ye so!
That'll take years to sort with insurance, planning etc

But is it just the car park that'll be closed or the entire shopping centre?

lawrencesummers

sondagefaux wrote: »

I paid £950 for my car. This year's insurance premium is £1200.

The Car and insurance market in the UK is very different to here.

kneemos

Our 911.

ScrubsfanChris

Entire complex to be closed for the foreseeable future it seems unfortunately.

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Edit: igCorcaigh beat me to it

Dia_Anseo

lfc200 wrote: »

Why are you on here with the last day just attempting to cause trouble? People's livelihoods, belongings etc are all up in the air and you've spent the last 2 days acting a joker

I'm not love, I recognize the distress and devastation.

I just want the truth and whoever is culpable!

lfc200

Dia_Anseo wrote: »

I don't think Avoncore Ltd care as it's just another faceless company.

Why are you on here with the last day just attempting to cause trouble? People's livelihoods, belongings etc are all up in the air and you've spent the last 2 days acting a joker

Dia_Anseo

pwurple wrote: »

Nice to see the concern for those who have lost livelihoods here.

I don't think Avoncore Ltd care as it's just another faceless company.

pwurple

Dia_Anseo wrote: »

Word on the street in Douglas is that the shopping centre was struggling financially so what better way to set it ablaze and get the insurance money before the company goes bust.

That shopping centre will be shut for years and be an eyesore

Nice to see the concern for those who have lost livelihoods here.

Dia_Anseo

airy fairy wrote: »

Kearys in on it aswell🙄

Oh jesus yeah! I never thought of them.

Bet the majority of the damaged cars were Hyundai, Renault or BMW the cars kearys just happen to sell!!

Dia_Anseo

Avoncore ltd is the company behind the Douglas shopping centre and that company is intertwined with majority shareholder Canmont Ltd and the majority shareholder of Canmont Ltd is Shipton Ltd. All these companies share the same address at 48 Upper Drumcondra rd, Dublin 9.
I walked past this address last week and there was an Opel Zafira parked up the the road.

Suspicios!

airy fairy

Kearys in on it aswell🙄

Padre_Pio

Dia_Anseo wrote: »

Why not? Hasn't it have the desired effect?

Plus wasn't it strange security guards just ran about and watched the fire and didn't use fire extinguishers.
Plus no sprinklers in the car park.
The Zafira was best car to use as everyone know they go up on fire

Ah, so the security guards are in on the conspiracy too! As well as the woman who drove the car in. Maybe the fire brigade were in on it too! The plot thickens :rolleyes:

TheChizler

You're trying too hard Dia...

Dia_Anseo

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Take it to the conspiracy theory forum. If you were going to burn down a shopping centre, a Zafira in the car park would not be the way to do it.

Why not? Hasn't it have the desired effect?

Plus wasn't it strange security guards just ran about and watched the fire and didn't use fire extinguishers.
Plus no sprinklers in the car park.
The Zafira was best car to use as everyone know they go up on fire

Douglas Eegit

Dia_Anseo wrote: »

Word on the street in Douglas is that the shopping centre was struggling financially so what better way to set it ablaze and get the insurance money before the company goes bust.

That shopping centre will be shut for years and be an eyesore

Near full occupancy... 3 anchor tenants... Pull the tinfoil hat down further

Padre_Pio

Dia_Anseo wrote: »

Word on the street in Douglas is that the shopping centre was struggling financially so what better way to set it ablaze and get the insurance money before the company goes bust.

That shopping centre will be shut for years and be an eyesore

Take it to the conspiracy theory forum. If you were going to burn down a shopping centre, a Zafira in the car park would not be the way to do it.

Dia_Anseo

Word on the street in Douglas is that the shopping centre was struggling financially so what better way to set it ablaze and get the insurance money before the company goes bust.

That shopping centre will be shut for years and be an eyesore

igCorcaigh

https://twitter.com/Darragh_Ber/status/1168578698922078210?s=19

Padre_Pio

I'd be very worried about every car coming out of that car park.

Even if it's not fire damaged, chances are the heat would be enough to ruin the car. Petrol and other fluids boiling in their tanks, plastics and rubbers softened and warped, paint might start to bubble off.

TheDriver

96fm at 5 said they're going to start removing cars tonight and tomorrow.

kneemos

Came here to read about the fire.

What I find is the remains of the thunderdome.

Odyssey 2005

bot43 wrote: »

I was only in Douglas 3 weeks ago on a saturday at this time. It could have been me. I feel very close to this tragedy.

On the plus side my video of the fire got almost 1000 retweets and about 100k views.

Katherine Thomas ?

Luap

With most insurers you won't lose your NCB as a result of a fire claim.

I would advise people to contact their insurance company's if they have a car that is stuck in the multi storey or is destroyed as a result of the fire, as the insurance companies will give you a courtesy car.

sondagefaux

mikeecho wrote: »

Imagine if your car was vandalised, that's not your fault.
Yet you would still have to claim off your own insurance, and risk losing your NCB.

Now, if the person responsible was identified, you could take a civil action, but your NCB will still be affected.

Unless you've been able to get your NCB protected.

It's a pain in the butt to lose your NCB but it's normal even if a claim is not your fault.

mikeecho

lawrencesummers wrote: »

mikeecho wrote: »

No it wont.
The owner of each damaged car will make a claim against their own insurance.

As long as you have 3rd Party Fire & Theft or Comprehensive, you'll be covered.

If you opted for 3rd party only.. you're goosed.

Why would you claim on your own insurance and have the premium at renewal increased for something that isn’t your fault?

That would be dumb.

Imagine if your car was vandalised, that's not your fault.
Yet you would still have to claim off your own insurance, and risk losing your NCB.

Now, if the person responsible was identified, you could take a civil action, but your NCB will still be affected.