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Squidgy Black

Replay will be a different game if it's 70 minutes against 15. Kerry were hanging on up to the red, but you could sense Dublin were starting to build and pull away.

It's something else though that Dublin can still manage a draw with only a 4 point lead going into half time with a man down, especially when you look at the hurling final where Hogan was sent off around the same time and Tipp ended up pulling away to win by 14.

ClanofLams

Kerry missed chances too. Could have been going in all square. Think if they had started Tommy Walsh they might be going home the cup.

Sean O’Shea was outstanding some performance for a 21 year old. Great character from David Clifford too, twenty years old had as bad a start as possible and kept showing up.

Dublin naturally favourites for replay but don’t see them hammering that Kerry side.

Podge_irl

"ClanofLams;111144456&#8221 wrote:

Must be some sickener for lads outside the 26 busting their hole all year to see Diarmuid Connolly coming on

He’s Better then they are and such is sport.

ClanofLams

Podge_irl wrote: »

He’s Better then they are and such is sport.

True. But he was heading off to Boston until visa issues, lads involved are training eight months, can’t be great for morale for lads to see him coming on ahead of them/included in 26 ahead of him.

ClanofLams

mfceiling wrote: »

Kerry choked. They'll never get a handier chance than that. 14 men and a ref who couldn't have given them much more.

Kerry are a team of kids basically.

The ref didn’t get much wrong. Cooper had to go and Tom o Sullivan’s was never a yellow

https://twitter.com/shanesaint/status/1168276863179022336?s=21

Dave_The_Sheep

Deliberate foul all the same though*.

*Disclaimer: I know **** all about football.

ClanofLams

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Deliberate foul all the same though*.

*Disclaimer: I know **** all about football.

Ah yeah it’s a free no more though. It’s roughly equivalent to what Cooper did for the penalty and the outcome was the same in both cases - a ‘ticking’.

Dave_The_Sheep

ClanofLams wrote: »

Ah yeah it’s a free no more though. It’s roughly equivalent to what Cooper did for the penalty and the outcome was the same in both cases - a ‘ticking’.

Like I said, I'm not a football head. And of course there are differing outcomes that infuriate fans across all sports.

In rugby, I would like a deliberate foul to be a yellow. Inadvertant or unintentional, fair enough. But deliberately, yellow.

ClanofLams

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Like I said, I'm not a football head. And of course there are differing outcomes that infuriate fans across all sports.

In rugby, I would like a deliberate foul to be a yellow. Inadvertant or unintentional, fair enough. But deliberately, yellow.

Very different sports though, rugby is obviously much more physical in nature. If yellows were been given in football for that O’Sullivan foul and consistently enforced, no game would finish without ten sending offs. Or the sport would essentially have to become non contact.

But regardless of that wider conversation, the ref was correct in this instance, that is a foul but nowhere near a yellow unless for repeated infringements hence the ticking.

sydthebeat

Dublin were -5 before today's game...

Scrambled a draw after being a man down for a full half.

And they are -4 tonight for the replay... Wtf??? I'm having lots of that

ClanofLams

sydthebeat wrote: »

Dublin were -5 before today's game...

Scrambled a draw after being a man down for a full half.

And they are -4 tonight for the replay... Wtf??? I'm having lots of that

It might come in but Dublin haven’t tended to win finals by much, they should have beaten Tyrone out the gate last year but only won by 6 and that was their biggest margin ever.

I could see a game where the result is never really in doubt but Dublin still only win by four or so. They’re often happy enough to retain possession when out in front rather than look to hammer a team. Dublin to win by 4-6 points at 7-2 looks a better bet to me than handicap.

Dave_The_Sheep

ClanofLams wrote: »

Very different sports though, rugby is obviously much more physical in nature. If yellows were been given in football for that O’Sullivan foul and consistently enforced, no game would finish without ten sending offs. Or the sport would essentially have to become non contact.

But regardless of that wider conversation, the ref was correct in this instance, that is a foul but nowhere near a yellow unless for repeated infringements hence the ticking.

I didn't comment when it comes to the nature of the foul nor the physical nature of it. I said I hoped a deliberate foul would be carded.

The way you describe the fouls and the consequences for these fouls makes it sound like a ****ing free for all.

Many people in Ireland who otherwise love sports have issues with GAA footballs general inability to define a tackle, also known in other GAA circles as punching the other ****.

Very different sports though, rugby is obviously much more physical in nature.

Physicality is the problem, you're right.

Also, because this is the internet and sarcasm is apparently hard to discern ... /s.

ClanofLams

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

I didn't comment when it comes to the nature of the foul nor the physical nature of it. I said I hoped a deliberate foul would be carded.

The way you describe the fouls and the consequences for these fouls makes it sound like a ****ing free for all.

Many people in Ireland who otherwise love sports have issues with GAA footballs general inability to define a tackle, also known in other GAA circles as punching the other ****.

Very different sports though, rugby is obviously much more physical in nature.

Physicality is the problem, you're right.

Also, because this is the internet and sarcasm is apparently hard to discern ... /s.

Have no idea what you’re ranting on about. As I said originally the ref made the correct decision under the current rule book. What you ‘hope’ the punishment should be isn’t relevant to that point.

Dave_The_Sheep

Eh, ok. Like I said, not a Gaa head, so I couldn't care less.

Your use of the phrase 'but nowhere a yellow' was what I reacted to. And then:

If yellows were been given in football for that O’Sullivan foul and consistently enforced, no game would finish without ten sending offs. Or the sport would essentially have to become non contact.

So it's obviously a problem with either fouls or consistentcy. Or contact. Pick one.

I'm out, by the way.

ClanofLams

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Eh, ok. Like I said, not a Gaa head, so I couldn't care less.

Your use of the phrase 'but nowhere a yellow' was what I reacted to. And then:

So it's obviously a problem with either fouls or consistentcy. Or contact. Pick one.

I'm out, by the way.

I never said there was a problem and don’t understand why you think there is. It was a free, free was given. It wasn’t a yellow no card was shown. It could be a yellow for persistent fouling if it was repeated so the number was taken, a ‘ticking’. Correct decision reached.

[Deleted User]

The bananas have lost majority after one of the fruit dealers defected. Will they have to trigger a general ripening?

Stheno

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The bananas have lost majority after one of the fruit dealers defected. Will they have to trigger a general ripening?

No there will be a banana uprising

Squidgy Black

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The bananas have lost majority after one of the fruit dealers defected. Will they have to trigger a general ripening?

If they do, the head banana will be the shortest lasting head of the fruit bowl in history. The only issue is the other bunches on the same side as the bananas are saying they won't stand in the election and let their fruit pickers pick the bananas, and the leader of the opposition bunch isn't exactly the most popular grape on the vine.

Neil3030

King banana clearly wants a general ripening to increase his quota of fruit stalls and put manners on the rebel bananas.

Stheno

Squidgy Black wrote: »

If they do, the head banana will be the shortest lasting head of the fruit bowl in history. The only issue is the other bunches on the same side as the bananas are saying they won't stand in the selection and let their fruit pickers pick the bananas, and the leader of the opposition bunch isn't exactly the most popular grape on the vine.

Tsk

Bazzo

I hope we're talking bendy bananas

Stheno

Bazzo wrote: »

I hope we're talking bendy bananas

Did the EU not ban those?

[Deleted User]

Stheno wrote: »

Did the EU not ban those?

No, the fruit and veg market never banned them, that was a myth orchestrated by dodgy telegraph installers.

Zzippy

[Deleted User]

As much as i am impressed by the Fruit and veg analogies

No Politics

Neil3030

Saw an "article" in the IT today, lauding some flipped shoe-box in Stoneybatter going for EUR700k. The price per square foot put it above the average price in LA, and around the same level as NYC. And yet, salaries in Dublin are nowhere near those cities.

How the actual F do people afford to live in Dublin?

shootermacg

Neil3030 wrote: »

Saw an "article" in the IT today, lauding some flipped shoe-box in Stoneybatter going for EUR700k. The price per square foot put it above the average price in LA, and around the same level as NYC. And yet, salaries in Dublin are nowhere near those cities.

How the actual F do people afford to live in Dublin?

We are getting to a point where a lot of the old admin type lower paying jobs in the city centre are either done by second earners or people from the suburbs or outside the county.

I couldn't believe there were people earning 30K or under in the city centre.

Squidgy Black

Neil3030 wrote: »

Saw an "article" in the IT today, lauding some flipped shoe-box in Stoneybatter going for EUR700k. The price per square foot put it above the average price in LA, and around the same level as NYC. And yet, salaries in Dublin are nowhere near those cities.

How the actual F do people afford to live in Dublin?

You either move further out from the city centre, a lot of people now out in the likes of Swords, Saggart, Rush/Lusk, or commuter towns like Ashbourne/Ratoath, Naas etc, or if you really want to stay closer to town you go for the likes of Eastwall, Rialto etc and pay 400k for a rundown 3 bed and look at it as an investment and end up tearing it apart.

Average house price in Dublin is now 388k. Which means you need a household income of 100k plus a cash deposit of 40k to get approved for a mortgage.

[Deleted User]

I can't see this Stoneybatter house on the website, link? How big was it sqft-wise? How many beds?

Edit, if it's what I've found on Daft, it's 140sqm. What are you on about, 'shoe-box'? That's a good sized family home.

[Deleted User]

connemara man wrote: »

No Politics