lufties wrote: » Hi, just an observation. Ireland has some fantastic micro brewers, solas being my favourite currently. However, I never see them in Irish pubs outside Dublin. I've visited a few pubs recently in Tipp and Clare, they all serve the same mass produced rubbish. I live in Yorkshire, and every pub serves different ales ranging from 3.5% upwards. It's a shame it doesn't take off in Ireland as I'm sick of returning home to the same old Guinness, Heineken etc.
Hunky Monster wrote: » Honestly? Advertising. Every pub in the country sells Budweiser and Heineken. They're not fit for human consumption yet they're the go to "beers" for a good chunk of the population. My local got in a range of the McGargles stuff a few years ago, it's a lot better than the commercial mass produced stuff, it was being handed out for FREE for anyone who wanted to try it at the start yet everyone still went back to the drain cleaner Budweiser and Mcgargles died a death. People are used to this muck and they're not willing to change.
stimpson wrote: » There may be less of a demand in rural pubs. In Dublin it’s rare to find a pub that does not have a couple of craft taps. It’s the same for any of the larger urban areas. Cask would be more traditional in the UK so you’ll see a lot of craft in cask. I was at a beer festival last year in Derbyshire and there were 60 cask ales on offer. Took me 3 days to get through them all.
ted1 wrote: » It’s the squeeze Diageo/guiness have on pubs.
odyssey06 wrote: » Wasn't there a big campaign in England in 1970s for save real ale? CAMRA and all that? There was no Irish equivalent. And in a small Irish market Guinness had put most competitors out of action 100 years ago. In England you had breweries competing through tied pubs. Very different markets.
ShamNNspace wrote: » Tis a pity. I normally go out once a week on a weekday in a county town. I like to visit maybe 4 pubs in town of a night so I mostly stick to what's available in all four ie carlsberg or H. I think from what I heard diagio have too much of a hold on the pubs and can influence what they stock
Deleted User wrote: » We have a legion of craft beers in Ireland - visit your local off licence and you'll likely find dozens. Multitude of craft breweries sprung up after 2010, so you're not exactly wanting for choice. As for cask ales - they are largely a British custom, unlikely draught served at more than 10°C will become an overnight sensation here.
salmocab wrote: » Was that MC gargles not made by one of the the big breweries?
Beechwoodspark wrote: » Don’t forget as well UK has approx 10 times the population of Ireland So for every 1 real ale enthusiast they have 10.
L1011 wrote: » Its an Irish craft product. It was initially made in the UK for a few months many many years ago. Its made in Celbridge by Rye River, one of the bigger Irish craft breweries. Diageo, Heineken, C&C and to a lesser extent MolsonCoors have the clout to offer incentives to pubs to get tap space. The small brewers don't. The cider wars between then currently are eating up tap spaces like crazy - can have somewhere with FIVE taps of macro ciders (Diageo Rockshore, Heineken Applemans and Orchard Theives, C&C Bulmers and Outcider). Free kegs, free fitout as 'marketing material' and so on. My local has a motorised roof for the smoking area provided by Molson for instance. Those small English pubs selling ales are probably owned by the brewery that makes it or their spun off pubco also. Near Dublin it's now very common for a pub to have either a Rye River or an O'Haras tap; also the drinkable but MolsonCoors Franciscan Well products are common too.
lufties wrote: » Have a read of my original post
[Deleted User] wrote: » I live in Clare, and debunked your lament about the micro-brewaries outside Dublin. Another popular spot here is the Roadside Tavern in Lisdoonvarna, which has a trio of their own craft selection called 'Celtic' on tap. Including a bitter stout, if one is that way inclined. Brewed in-house.
Deleted User wrote: » Reside in Clare, and debunked your lament about lack of micro-breweries outside Dublin. Another popular spot here is the Roadside Tavern in Lisdoonvarna, which has a trio of their own craft selection called 'Celtic' on tap. Including a bitter stout, if one is that way inclined. Brewed in-house.
lufties wrote: » I even had a pint of Franciscan well in London lol, although it was a bit strong for me. What Im getting at is we could do so much better, with a variety of session IPAs and lower strength lager.
lufties wrote: » Definitely an exception, not one micro brewer in the popular holiday town of Kilkee.
L1011 wrote: » All of those are made by Irish breweries; the problem is pubs are wary of them and incentivised not to sell them.
Deleted User wrote: » Another example is Loudon's in Feakle, took off a few years ago. I've now given you three examples, which isn't bad for a small county. Some people are never satisfied. The micro-brewery won't travel to your doorstop, do the cursory research and try to incorporate these places on your travel itinerary.
hesker wrote: » The Rising Sons Brewery from Cork is doing well I believe. I like a pint of stout now and again but got completely fed up with the variability of a certain brand. Then someone put me on to Mi Daza and I can enjoy my pint again. It's now selling in Dublin too I believe.
