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The Dominance of Dublin GAA Mod warning post#1

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Discussion of all matters relating to this contentious subject is welcome and the potential implications of same.This thread is solely for this purpose.

There appears to be a perception that the moderators are attempting to shut down discussion of this topic and direct same off to a low traffic stickied thread.Nothing could be further from the truth.Our sole motive was to confine discussion to a single thread and prevent cross thread posting which was adversely affecting the enjoyment of fellow posters.

Can we please keep posts civil and constructive in nature.

The Changes in the GAA-super thread is now for discussion of all other suggested reforms not relating to Dublin GAA.

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salmocab

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Damn all hype about it in Dublin anyway.

Load of ppl seem oblivious to it - they’ve no interest.

Interest was lost long ago as everyone knows it how absurdly uncompetitive the championship has become.

Although I would be the first person to give a wry smile at seeing Jim Gavin and all the other fair weather fans smugness dealt a blow, for the good of the GAA it is going to take dublin winning on Sunday so that the problem cannot be ignored or brushed under the carpet any longer.

Are you suggesting Jim Gavin is a fair weather fan now?

odyssey06

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Damn all hype about it in Dublin anyway.
Load of ppl seem oblivious to it - they’ve no interest.
Interest was lost long ago as everyone knows it how absurdly uncompetitive the championship has become.

Yeah that's what we keep telling you. Dublin is a European capital city.
Half the people have no interest in GAA, half of those don't even know what it is.
Then there's all the GAA fans living in Dublin who aren't from Dublin.

Doesn't have anything to do with Dublin winning 5 in a row, or whether Dublin are in the final.

Their minds are on the Rugby world cup, Electric Picnic, the Premier League, Shamrock Rovers v Bohemians, Ireland v Switzerland, India Day... what's happening back home in Poland, Croatia, China, Spain, Brazil; and for that matter, Mayo, Leitrim, Tipperary, Westmeath, Donegal.

blanch152

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Damn all hype about it in Dublin anyway.

Load of ppl seem oblivious to it - they’ve no interest.

Interest was lost long ago as everyone knows it how absurdly uncompetitive the championship has become.

Although I would be the first person to give a wry smile at seeing Jim Gavin and all the other fair weather fans smugness dealt a blow, for the good of the GAA it is going to take dublin winning on Sunday so that the problem cannot be ignored or brushed under the carpet any longer.

Who let you in past the M50?

aodomhnaill

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Damn all hype about it in Dublin anyway.

Load of ppl seem oblivious to it - they’ve no interest.

Interest was lost long ago as everyone knows it how absurdly uncompetitive the championship has become.

Although I would be the first person to give a wry smile at seeing Jim Gavin and all the other fair weather fans smugness dealt a blow, for the good of the GAA it is going to take dublin winning on Sunday so that the problem cannot be ignored or brushed under the carpet any longer.

was this written through the haze of a few early afternoon Friday pints?

Beechwoodspark

aodomhnaill wrote: »

was this written through the haze of a few early afternoon Friday pints?

Not at all

There’s zero hype in Dublin.

Because ppl know it’s an absurdly unfair competition.

Fann Linn

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Not at all

There’s zero hype in Dublin.

Because ppl know it’s an absurdly unfair competition.

Aer Rianta, CIE, Dublin Bus, Dublin City Council, OPW all rolling in and painting the town blue.
They've a good slogan for you, 'One County United in Blue-31 others, Green with Envy'.
Suck it up.

odyssey06

I'm sure in Donnybrook if you ask about a final they'll mention something about Japan...

But I must have imagined all the Dublin flags I saw on my way to work, and the billboard from my old school wishing the named ex-pupils on the Dublin panel best of luck in the final. What final are they talking about???

Coillte_Bhoy

odyssey06 wrote: »

I'm sure in Donnybrook if you ask about a final they'll mention something about Japan...

But I must have imagined all the Dublin flags I saw on my way to work, and the billboard from my old school wishing the named ex-pupils on the Dublin panel best of luck in the final. What final are they talking about???

Quarter final more like

Beechwoodspark

Fann Linn wrote: »

Aer Rianta, CIE, Dublin Bus, Dublin City Council, OPW all rolling in and painting the town blue.
They've a good slogan for you, 'One County United in Blue-31 others, Green with Envy'.
Suck it up.

That’s just corporate BS

Get out and talk to ppl

Joe soap. Joe bloggs. What ever u want to call it.

Ppl have no interest. Well done GAA for destroying 99% the marquee championship...

Beechwoodspark

And just on the side debate on tickets.

I predict there’ll be loads of tickets on sale outside Croker on Sunday.

ArielAtom

Yep there’s no hype in Dublin and tickets can be in Centra up
Until 3.15 on Sunday. As a Corkman said to me over a few sociables earlier, Tis the hardest final to get a ticket for. But sure the metropolis that is Wicklow probably have no interest in the game so no hype there. The amount of straw grasping by folks with an agenda is pathetic. You really need to get off the grog, stop listening to daytime radio or get back to the junior cert studies😉

Otherwise keep going, if Dublin manage to win, I for one will be insufferable😂😂😂😂

Beechwoodspark

True gaels have no interest in this Frankenstein’s monster of a team produced by huge money pumped through.

No interest. A sick aberration.

Fann Linn

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

True gaels have no interest in this Frankenstein’s monster of a team produced by huge money pumped through.

No interest. A sick aberration.

You've plenty of interest.

Beechwoodspark

Fann Linn wrote: »

You've plenty of interest.

Hi fann

As I said I grudgingly want Dublin to win.

Will bring the debate to the surface.

No more brushing it under the carpet.

Coillte_Bhoy

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

True gaels have no interest in this Frankenstein’s monster of a team produced by huge money pumped through.

No interest. A sick aberration.

Thia Mayo fan has plenty of interest as indeed does anyone i know who even has a passing interest in sport. You are trying waaaayyyy too hard

Coillte_Bhoy

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Hi fann

As I said I grudgingly want Dublin to win.

Will bring the debate to the surface.

No more brushing it under the carpet.

WTF are you on about? Under the carpet? Its has been debated ad nauseam, what exactly do you think a Dublin win is going to do in this regard?

Beechwoodspark

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

WTF are you on about? Under the carpet? Its has been debated ad nauseam, what exactly do you think a Dublin win is going to do in this regard?

It’ll be an unprecedented 5 in a row ?

Coillte_Bhoy

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

It’ll be an unprecedented 5 in a row ?

Ive no idea what you are on about tbh, you seem to think a Dublin win will hearld some major changes? How and what exactly?

Beechwoodspark

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Ive no idea what you are on about tbh, you seem to think a Dublin win will hearld some major changes? How and what exactly?

I think you need to read my posts slowly and carefully.

If they win 5 in a row then the financial doping and inherent crazy population advantages will be front and centre

My solution :

Stop all funding to Dublin and work on diverting funding to all other counties so that the average player Mickey in Leitrim etc gets same spend as Ivor from Howth.

Siphon off Dublin sponsorship money as and when necessary to achieve this parity.

Split Dublin into 4 for a trial period of 5 years.

The ironic thing is even if split into 4 Dublin teams will have a numerical advantage.

That’s how crazy the situation is!

odyssey06

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

It’ll be an unprecedented 5 in a row ?

At least let us catch-up with Kerry's unprecedented 37 titles and knock them off their perch before you put a stop to all the fun?

Between 2000 and 2011, Kerry won 5 All Irelands and reached 9 finals.
Dublin start hitting the same level and suddenly it's the end of the GAA.

At least be honest, you don't think Dubs are 'true Gaels' (your words) and can only win by cheating. That attitude underlies everything you've written. It's pretty pathetic. Mayo and the rest can take being dominated by Kerry but not by Dublin cos we're not 'true Gaels'. It's quasi volk b******T.

Beechwoodspark

odyssey06 wrote: »

At least let us catch-up with Kerry's unprecedented 37 titles and knock them off their perch before you put a stop to all the fun?

Between 2000 and 2011, Kerry won 5 All Irelands and reached 9 finals.
Dublin start hitting the same level and suddenly it's the end of the GAA.

At least be honest, you don't think Dubs are 'true Gaels' (your words) and can only win by cheating. That attitude underlies everything you've written. It's pretty pathetic. Mayo and the rest can take being dominated by Kerry but not by Dublin cos we're not 'true Gaels'. It's quasi volk b******T.

Are you a member of the GAA? If you are you will know what true Gael means

walshb

odyssey06 wrote: »

At least let us catch-up with Kerry's unprecedented 37 titles and knock them off their perch before you put a stop to all the fun?

Between 2000 and 2011, Kerry won 5 All Irelands and reached 9 finals.
Dublin start hitting the same level and suddenly it's the end of the GAA.

At least be honest, you don't think Dubs are 'true Gaels' (your words) and can only win by cheating. That attitude underlies everything you've written. It's pretty pathetic. Mayo and the rest can take being dominated by Kerry but not by Dublin cos we're not 'true Gaels'. It's quasi volk b******T.

But GAA was never seen as a Dublin game...it’s always been seen as a ‘country’ game..certainly the ‘country’ folk think this. I’m a Dub, and for me, GAA was always a ‘country’ game..

ToBeFrank123

walshb wrote: »

But GAA was never seen as a Dublin game...it’s always been seen as a ‘country’ game..certainly the ‘country’ folk think this. I’m a Dub, and for me, GAA was always a ‘country’ game..

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Gaelic football would be more of an urban game than hurling for example hence why Dublin have little tradition in hurling.

People are acting like Dublin never won a football AI before 2011 and there was no interest in Dublin before then. Its bizarre. Dublin always had a huge following particularly with Heffos army and in the 2000s.

There was a huge following for Dublin going back to the 40s, 50s and 60s as well as 70s through the 2000s.

SEPT 23 1989

walshb wrote: »

But GAA was never seen as a Dublin game...it’s always been seen as a ‘country’ game..certainly the ‘country’ folk think this. I’m a Dub, and for me, GAA was always a ‘country’ game..

Well said

Football sorry soccer is our game in the city

The only ones I know who played and followed it had parents from the country

odyssey06

walshb wrote: »

But GAA was never seen as a Dublin game...it’s always been seen as a ‘country’ game..certainly the ‘country’ folk think this. I’m a Dub, and for me, GAA was always a ‘country’ game..

Maybe in some parts of Dublin, but not in mine... my 'natural' local team option in my Dublin suburb was GAA not soccer or rugby. But I would not have had to go far to experience either and growing up the local teams in the other codes would have been challenging for the domestic titles - as were my GAA teams

Things have changed somewhat in Dublin across the board, maybe playing GAA and rugby is treated as a sporting choice and not an identity one.

Coillte_Bhoy

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I think you need to read my posts slowly and carefully.

If they win 5 in a row then the financial doping and inherent crazy population advantages will be front and centre

My solution :

Stop all funding to Dublin and work on diverting funding to all other counties so that the average player Mickey in Leitrim etc gets same spend as Ivor from Howth.

Siphon off Dublin sponsorship money as and when necessary to achieve this parity.

Split Dublin into 4 for a trial period of 5 years.

The ironic thing is even if split into 4 Dublin teams will have a numerical advantage.

That’s how crazy the situation is!

This is all under discussion in the public realm anyway, Dublin winning wont make any difference. Wishful thinking on your part

Bonniedog

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Well said

Football sorry soccer is our game in the city

The only ones I know who played and followed it had parents from the country

If you actually followed soccer in Dublin you would be among the 3,000 at Tallaght tonight.

Embarrassing to see a grown man with the crest of a city you have no connection with. Scarlet for ye...

Bonniedog

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Are you a member of the GAA? If you are you will know what true Gael means

What county are you from anyway? not that your obsession with Dublin spares you any time for them I am sure

walshb

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The only ones I know who played and followed it had parents from the country

This!!!

SEPT 23 1989

Bonniedog wrote: »

If you actually followed soccer in Dublin you would be among the 3,000 at Tallaght tonight.

Embarrassing to see a grown man with the crest of a city you have no connection with. Scarlet for ye...

No connection at all...