Stevieluvsye wrote: » Still going at it Gozunda?Batting the Greta lovers off one by one
Thelonious Monk wrote: » I saw something earlier about making domestic pet food from insects. There are billions of cats and dogs being fed meats and there are luxury lines of meats etc which just seems ridiculous.
recedite wrote: » One nuclear station, plus decentralised wind and solar farms, plus feed in tariffs for home microgeneration, plus Spirit of Ireland built by the state to store off peak power, and the job is mostly done. A few small gas turbine generating stations near cities just to top up.
Pa ElGrande wrote: » One should learn from the Australian experience on their electricity grid in some states in Australia they have to deal with voltage surges, frequency instability, even house fires and they need backup batteries and demand management schemes. All that complexity and instability adds to cost.
Dohnjoe wrote: » Well looks like she is about to make landfall soon. All those who were hysterical that their children would start absconding in sailboats across the ocean to go to UN conferences can now sleep a little easier. The "we know there's a problem with the climate but all this climate malarkey really annoys me and I must register it" will, I'm sure, find something else to vent about. So all is well with the world once more.. that is until she decides to take a solar-powered land-yacht made out of bamboo to her next conference, and all the usual types are triggered
Il Fascista wrote: » To be fair you seem to be the only one who's worked up here.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » I hope she keeps doing things like this just to annoy the weirdos in this thread
Deleted User wrote: » let me guess dohnjoe or yourself whiteknighting over a teenage swedish tantrum merchant dont count as weirdos, right?
Dohnjoe wrote: » They aren't annoyed at all, it is the people who are pointing out their weird fascination that are
She had an opportunity to demonstrate a practical, imitable solution, but instead, she relied on her celebrity to make a point... She could have started a wider conversation about the need for affordable transatlantic passage on low-carbon vessels. Or, perhaps most radically, she could have refused to travel at all, attending the summits via video conference and proving to multinational corporations that collaboration can indeed be achieved this way.
Stevieluvsye wrote: » And also all that mining in South America for lithium so she can tweet everyone daily or the electric car she claims is enviromentally friendly despite using lithium for its battery
Dohnjoe wrote: » You got her there!
Stevieluvsye wrote: » declaring death to all adults
Dickerty wrote: » Was that on her Facebook or Instagram? :rolleyes:
Dohnjoe wrote: » Well looks like she is about to make landfall soon. All those who were hysterical that their children would start absconding in sailboats across the ocean to go to UN conferences can now sleep a little easier. The "we know there's a problem with the climate but all this climate malarkey really annoys me and I must register it" will, I'm sure, find something else to vent about.
Records of one of the La Jolla presenters, a law professor at the University of Oregon (in Eugene), show that after the implosion of “cap-and-trade”, climate alarmists bemoaned how “conventional approaches” had failed them. With the voters and their elected representatives repeatedly disappointing the activists, even in the face of the $-billion-plus-a-year climate industry’s media and pressure group campaigns, the lawyers had plans. These plans included sending children in waves to the streets.The entire strategy of the civil and legal disruption we see, of suits, marches and strikes by schoolchildren, was laid out at this private session seven years ago. These public records produced mere days after 60 Minutes’s promotional segment, and days before the nationwide children’s climate walkouts, affirm: the climate litigation campaign was expressly grounded in this failure of “conventional approaches” otherwise known as our constitutional system it was to be “linked to youth climate movement (world-wide marches)”; it would be accompanied by a press strategy including documentaries featuring children; the meeting was acknowledged, but this strategy laid out there was “not to be publicized”; the strategy sought both a cooperative federal administration “Consent decrees (would be ideal)” — and to “Bring selected carbon majors to the table, then what?” Then what” turned out to be demands by cities for “damages” to run into the several hundred billions of dollars, in litigation — regularly thrown out by the courts — demanding that targeted industries bail out bankrupt progressive governance and pay for their desired programs. It meant, as in the Juliana case, a demand for federal imposition through the courts — by consent decree, if elections turn out right! — of what is now known as the dangerous if absurd Green New Deal.“Then what” turned out to mean a climate litigation industry, dedicated to a shakedown. And a lot of terrified, indoctrinated kids skipping school to serve as props in political, and legal, campaigns.source
Pa ElGrande wrote: » You realise you are playing your part in the deception.Genesis of a Shakedown: New Records Expose Children’s Marches as Long-Planned Component of Litigation Campaign March 13, 2019
gozunda wrote: » I really dont care if you don't want to end up debating small-scale stuff with people" heaven forbid! - that is NOT the question. You are being asked one simple question. Exactly what will the "massive mobilization of labour' going to be doing according to your manifesto? And no debate required - just a list of real examples thanks. Keep it straightforward so we will learn exactly what the plan is ... Btw there are no examples of work laid out for "massive mobilization of labour" as far as I can see. So just detail it for the rest of us that obviously don't have your incredible foresight. Thanks.
Dohnjoe wrote: » Ah not into this conspiracy theory denial stuff
It is already paradoxical that Greta Thunberg symbolizes a global messianic commitment, while her face never displays the slightest empathy. This child is so manipulable that his parents have made his disability public (which is irresponsible on their part): as a doctor, I think that revealing the neuropsychiatric state of his minor children to the media should be a crime! We know since the description of the syndrome by Hans Asperger in 1941 that children with Asperger's are sometimes brilliant but still fragile; to instrumentalize them is a moral fault. Lenin described the left bourgeois as useful idiots of the revolution; the young people who follow Greta Thunberg are the useful idiots of the green dictatorship . But above all, Greta Thunberg rolls for the anti-capitalist far left. The pitiful death of all Marxist models - from North Korea to Venezuela to Cuba or Cambodia from Pol Pot - left the anti-liberals in disarray. Eco-catastrophism and its train of fears is the ideal instrument to propose a new utopia that is a substitute for the Marxist dictatorship. By instrumentalizing youth, we impose a liberticidal agenda in the name of good feelings.source (FR) - google translate
Lenin described the left bourgeois as useful idiots of the revolution; the young people who follow Greta Thunberg are the useful idiots of the green dictatorship
KyussB wrote: » I am not going to debate the work that would be done with you, as I've repeatedly said that there is an abundance of such work that can be done for reducing carbon emissions - and that if you (or anyone) don't agree with that, come out and say that.I've said the focus of my argument is not aimed at those small-scale issues, but on the policy and economic practice changes needed, to be able to undertake the abundant variety of work at the right scale, in the first place.
KyussB wrote: » as I've repeatedly said that there is an abundance of such work that can be done for reducing carbon emissions - and that if you (or anyone) don't agree with that, come out and say that.
The book is presented as a 'climate book', but in addition to lack of data and scientific information about the climate, Mikael Jalving believes that it is a book about a family in disintegration. »The book contains a story of failure. On the surface, the book is about a sick society where we are drowning in pollution and materialism, lies and deception. But the mother, who is also the author, is blind to the illnesses of her daughters, ”says Mikael Jalving. The book shows that Greta Thunberg has suffered from depression and eating disorders in the past, and that her current diagnoses are Asperger's Syndrome and OCD. Greta Thunberg's little sister, Beata Thunberg, has also been diagnosed with ADHD, Asperger's Syndrome and OCD. <snip> “The family is in deep crisis and the mother has not understood it at all. The book should not have been published, but instead should have tried to help the family. The book is a cry for help, ”says Mikael Jalving.source (DK), google translate
gozunda wrote: » https://twitter.com/borisherrmann/status/1163846985666965504?s=20 Good to see that blue buckets have more than one application... #NotPoosOnly