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Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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She's permanently on twitter now tweeting links to wacky stories from a few years ago and every single conspiracy theory she can get her hands on

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Overheal

Isn't CAO data pretty useful here

Blueshoe

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Well you know you seem to think Irish people offering their homes to refugees/asylum seekers is a great idea.

Willing people. I'm not one of them. Are you?

recedite

If you want the exact number, you'll have to ask one of the lefty professors in one of the colleges who organise this virtue signalling crap.

Overheal

Blueshoe wrote: »

Willing people. I'm not one of them. Are you?

Why then do you have the right to lecture solutions to other people you will not do yourself? Far cry from leadership by example.

Annasopra

Blueshoe wrote: »

Willing people. I'm not one of them. Are you?

Oh right ok. So you don't think it's a great idea at all then.

Annasopra

recedite wrote: »

If you want the exact number, you'll have to ask one of the lefty professors in one of the colleges who organise this virtue signalling crap.

Right yeah. Racist scaremongering as I indicated earlier.

Overheal

recedite wrote: »

If you want the exact number, you'll have to ask one of the lefty professors in one of the colleges who organise this virtue signalling crap.

Which is a roundabout raspberrying way of saying No, there is no data to even remotely support your accusation:

And BTW, even if an asylum seeker student gets low points in the Leaving Cert, they're gonna be able to go to college because there is plenty of funding allocated to them, and scarce places are given out on "scholarships" at the expense of Irish students with higher points, who then miss out.

And you dare lecture ANYONE else on this forum about Defamation, Slander, or Libel? :eek: Here you are admitting point blank that you are typing out complete falsehoods with no substantiated or even alleged facts behind you, to take broad swipes at "lefty professors" who are "organizing" this fickle little conspiracy theory you've concocted - and yet you are presenting it as a matter of fact.

Blueshoe

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Oh right ok. So you don't think it's a great idea at all then.

Do you not understand what "willing people" means?

recedite

Overheal wrote: »

Which is a roundabout raspberrying way of saying No, there is no data to even remotely support your accusation:
And you dare lecture ANYONE else on this forum about Defamation, Slander, or Libel? :eek:

Of course there is data. I'm not privy to it though, and I'm not even going to go searching for it because even if it was publicly available, it is likely to be hidden away, or disguised, or made inaccessible in some way.
Do you not understand that allocating college places is a zero sum game? That is the whole purpose and function of the CAO - to decide who gets a place and who does not.

Scholarships which artificially lower the points requirement for certain "preferred people" subvert this (otherwise merit-based) process.

Annasopra

recedite wrote: »

Of course there is data. I'm not privy to it though, and I'm not even going to go searching for it because even if it was publicly available, it is likely to be hidden away, or disguised, or made inaccessible in some way.
Do you not understand that allocating college places is a zero sum game? That is the whole purpose and function of the CAO - to decide who gets a place and who does not.

Scholarships which artificially lower the points requirement for certain "preferred people" subvert this (otherwise merit-based) process.

So you have no proof whatsoever of your claims and you refuse to provide it.

Blueshoe

recedite wrote: »

Of course there is data. I'm not privy to it though, and I'm not even going to go searching for it because even if it was publicly available, it is likely to be hidden away, or disguised, or made inaccessible in some way.
Do you not understand that allocating college places is a zero sum game? That is the whole purpose and function of the CAO - to decide who gets a place and who does not.

Scholarships which artificially lower the points requirement for certain "preferred people" subvert this (otherwise merit-based) process.

It's a bit like gender quotas. Not earned.
A step backwards in evolution.

The strongest or brightest should be at the top as they have earned it. Otherwise it doesn't work.

It's insulting to women too. You got the job because you were born female. Well done

recedite

Blueshoe wrote: »

It's a bit like gender quotas. Not earned.
A step backwards in evolution.

Exactly.

Annasopra

Maybe we should reverse the whole sufragette movement and bring in the handmaids tale to please some posters around here.

Overheal

recedite wrote: »

Of course there is data. I'm not privy to it though, and I'm not even going to go searching for it because even if it was publicly available, it is likely to be hidden away, or disguised, or made inaccessible in some way.

Which is a meandering manner of saying you pulled it entirely out of your hat.

Scholarships which artificially lower the points requirement for certain "preferred people" subvert this (otherwise merit-based) process.

Which scholarship/points-tweaking activities are you referring to exactly?

Eric Cartman

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Maybe we should reverse the whole sufragette movement and bring in the handmaids tale to please some posters around here.

What is it with people on the left and handmaids tale crap, its a fictional show and at no point has Ireland been anything like that and nobody, not even the far right is looking for ireland to become anything remotely like that.

The only group vaugely calling for opression of women in modern Ireland is the islamic community.

Blueshoe

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Maybe we should reverse the whole sufragette movement and bring in the handmaids tale to please some posters around here.

Maybe both genders should be treated as equal and jobs awarded on merit.

The best person for the job and all that.

Applies in all of life's situations.

[Deleted User]

Why are so many racists also sexist?

cookie1977

recedite wrote: »

If you want the exact number, you'll have to ask one of the lefty professors in one of the colleges who organise this virtue signalling crap.

Yes, down with that sort of thing. To hell with facts! We need stories!

Stephen15

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I just posted a link to an article that says we're one the toughest countries, if not the toughest on immigration.

Do you actually read any links people send?

Are you so entrenched in your views that no amount of proof whatsoever will change them?

The link you sent seems to be contradicted by this more recent article so which one is the truth

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/ireland-has-lowest-refusal-rate-of-asylum-applicants-920320.html

cookie1977

Stephen15 wrote: »

The link you sent seems to be contradicted by this more recent article so which one is the truth

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/ireland-has-lowest-refusal-rate-of-asylum-applicants-920320.html

Hmmm, quote:
"The number of asylum seekers granted protection in Ireland last year represented 265 per million population — less than half the EU average of 650 per million."

Please read your own stories before hanging your entire argument on them.

Blueshoe

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why are so many racists also sexist?

Who are you calling Racist?

By saying both genders should be treated equal?

[Deleted User]

cookie1977 wrote: »

Hmmm, quote:
"The number of asylum seekers granted protection in Ireland last year represented 265 per million population — less than half the EU average of 650 per million."

Please read your own stories before hanging your entire argument on them.

That is quite the spectacular own goal there, Stephen.

Stephen15

cookie1977 wrote: »

Hmmm, quote:
"The number of asylum seekers granted protection in Ireland last year represented 265 per million population — less than half the EU average of 650 per million."

Please read your own stories before hanging your entire argument on them.

Still should be lower

Overheal

Eric Cartman wrote: »

What is it with people on the left and handmaids tale crap, its a fictional show and at no point has Ireland been anything like that and nobody, not even the far right is looking for ireland to become anything remotely like that.

The only group vaugely calling for opression of women in modern Ireland is the islamic community.

So that's why the repeal of the 8th passed by a 90:1 margin and no challenges?

[Deleted User]

Eric Cartman wrote: »

What is it with people on the left and handmaids tale crap, its a fictional show and at no point has Ireland been anything like that and nobody, not even the far right is looking for ireland to become anything remotely like that.

The last Magdaline laundry closed in the 1990s. Homosexual sex was illegal into the 90s. Those of us who lived through the 70s and 80s remember well when Ireland was controlled by priests, brothers and other authoritarians.

And some of us are going to make sure that we're not going back there.

Blueshoe

Overheal wrote: »

So that's why the repeal of the 8th passed by a 90:1 margin and no challenges?

That's kind of his point

cookie1977

Stephen15 wrote: »

Still should be lower

Magnanimous in defeat too.

Overheal

Blueshoe wrote: »

That's kind of his point

How so?

Blueshoe

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

The last Magdaline laundry closed in the 1990s. Homosexual sex was illegal into the 90s. Those of us who lived through the 70s and 80s remember well when Ireland was controlled by priests, brothers and other authoritarians.

And some of us are going to make sure that we're not going back there.

How will you do this?
By dilution of Catholics with Islam?
Is that the grand plan

Stephen15

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

The last Magdaline laundry closed in the 1990s. Homosexual sex was illegal into the 90s. Those of us who lived through the 70s and 80s remember well when Ireland was controlled by priests, brothers and other authoritarians.

And some of us are going to make sure that we're not going back there.

Do you support Islamic immigration?