Stephen15 wrote: » I think if I was feeing a war zone or a dire situation which I was living in fear of my life or being brutally tortured the conditions in a direct provision centre would be the last my worries as I'd be so happy to be alive and safe I would not care.
Stephen15 wrote: » And how many of them are actually sent home. They appeal, appeal and appeal until they are eventually allowed to remain here.
Stephen15 wrote: » Em it might be something to with the fact that I live in Ireland which is in Europe. I don't know much about America becuase I do not live there and have even been there I don't know enough about the situation there to really pass comment.
cookie1977 wrote: » Yes I'm sure that's it exactly. Selective outrage is all I see.
Stephen15 wrote: » So it's selective outrage now to think about the issues which are happening in the country and the continent in which you are from and live in. I would regard that that as perfectly normal and rational to think about the issues which effect you before the issues of other countries. And if you want to read about selective outrage:https://www.conservapedia.com/Selective_outrage
batgoat wrote: » Do you think an Irish person can be black? Do you think non white Irish people "weakens Irish culture"? That's a term you've used.
In terms of you raising issues in this country. I only tend to see posters such as yourself exaggerating incidents for the sake of propaganda. I would say the intolerance of people such as Torino is far greater of an issue than migrants.
Stephen15 wrote: » Again that would depend on if they are willing to intergrate or not. There are issues perhaps not major issues right now but they are coming down the tracks. There have been serious issues in other European countries with immigration and I do not think we are doing enough to prevent a repeat of those issues here in Ireland.
PeadarCo wrote: » Science is not my forte, nice projection. See a link to support my point that race has no basis in science.https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/04/race-genetics-science-africa/
PeadarCo wrote: » In terms of North Ireland there is so little difference(at a high level anyway) between nationalists and unionists that most people in England can't tell the difference between them as we have seen aptly demonstrated in the Brexit debate. Even in recent years the number of people identifying as either tribe in NI has declined. Which just further adds to my point that race is a social construct.
Deleted User wrote: » I just posted a link to an article that says we're one the toughest countries, if not the toughest on immigration. Do you actually read any links people send? Are you so entrenched in your views that no amount of proof whatsoever will change them?
Sweetemotion wrote: » How in the hell is being anti mass undocumented immigration racist? You lot just look like a pack of bullies at this stage with the constant ganging up on Stephen.
Stephen15 wrote: » I don't see any racism, bigotry or homophobia coming from Justin Barrett unless your definition of racism is different to the dictionary's. As for homophobia I haven't seen any but he has said he is against Islam which is a very homophobic ideology.
cookie1977 wrote: » I still find this comment incredulous.
Stephen15 wrote: » Seems like a dodgy link I'm not reading it in case I get a virus anyway seems like you playing whataboutery what has that article got to do with anything being discussed at the moment
Overheal wrote: » What a pathetic dodge :pac: Let's walk through this logic: I, a moderator, would blithely post links to malware? MediaITE is a media aggregator blog run by Dan Abrams. It's a Gizmodo of mainstream news. Calm your tits.
batgoat wrote: » Also I'd like to point out that my parent's home is about a mile from a direct provision center. The residents have caused zero problems since it started operating in the early 2000s. I do totally have a problem with how they're operated and support those who have raised the issue. They're literally designed to make it difficult to integrate to any normal degree. Want your kids to do have a sleep over? Nope, can't do that. Want to cook your own meals, that's a no. Want to begin to start to establish a life in your new home, can't do that. Your child gets high points in leaving cert? They're not gonna be able to go to college unless somebody is able to finance it for them. So I totally understand why residents complain.
Blueshoe wrote: » Have you considered taking them into your parents house. Now that you have left the nest there would be ample space and your parents will enjoy the company. Win win for everyone
Blueshoe wrote: » Never heard of it. Is it like Breitbart for leftys?
Blueshoe wrote: » Nobody is required to answer questions . Don't be silly
cookie1977 wrote: » Stopping acting like a fool this isn't Hobson's choice.
Blueshoe wrote: » I doubt he even asked. Would you be up for it? Let's make a move away from direct provision. Refugees, asylum seekers and economic migrants can live with willing Irish families. Much better for them.
Joeytheparrot wrote: » Sure. You first.
Blueshoe wrote: » Me first what?
Refugees, asylum seekers and economic migrants can live with willing Irish families.
batgoat wrote: » They're literally designed to make it difficult to integrate to any normal degree. Want your kids to do have a sleep over? Nope, can't do that. Want to cook your own meals, that's a no. Want to begin to start to establish a life in your new home, can't do that. Your child gets high points in leaving cert? They're not gonna be able to go to college unless somebody is able to finance it for them. So I totally understand why residents complain.
recedite wrote: » Fair point about the lack of integration in DP centres, but lets not forget that the concept was only ever meant to be a short term thing while illegal immigrants were having their cases for asylum examined. Which it is suitable for. It is a political failure that the DP system was allowed to become overwhelmed, and that when cases for asylum are denied, illegal immigrants stay on ad infinitum, going from one appeal to another. A system that is only suitable for short term stays has been shoehorned into a long stay industry which is earning huge money for lawyers and certain well connected property investors. And BTW, even if an asylum seeker student gets low points in the Leaving Cert, they're gonna be able to go to college because there is plenty of funding allocated to them, and scarce places are given out on "scholarships" at the expense of Irish students with higher points, who then miss out.
Joeytheparrot wrote: » How many Irish students missed out? Or is that more racist scaremongering?
recedite wrote: » Whatever number had higher points than the asylum seekers who got the scholarships.
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