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DoneDeal phone sale turns into violent robbery

Gadgetman496

One man’s attempt to sell his phone on Done Deal turned into a violent robbery by a group of people.

https://galwaydaily.com/courts/jail-time-for-violent-phone-robbery/

Joe Mwangi (22) of Cluain Riocaird, Ballinfoyle pleaded guilty to robbery and attempted theft at Galway Circuit Court.
The court heard that on June 7 of 2016 a German man had arranged to meet with two people to sell his iPhone he’d advertised on Done Deal.

The victim was at G&L Centra in Newcastle, but said that he had a bad feeling when he met Mwangi and another man, and didn’t believe they had money to buy his phone.

He went in to the store to wait for them to leave, but Sgt Tom Doyle said that cctv footage showed four men waiting at the nearby Topaz.

When the victim left the store two men approached from behind, knocking him to the ground. While he was on the ground he said that the four men continued to attack him.

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Hoboo

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

One man’s attempt to sell his phone on Done Deal turned into a violent robbery by a group of people.

https://galwaydaily.com/courts/jail-time-for-violent-phone-robbery/

Happens every day.

biko

Wow, that case seems to have taken 3 years to finish.

gozunda

biko wrote: »

Wow, that case seems to have taken 3 years to finish.

Not unusually sadly ...

Gadgetman496

Sentenced to 4 years with one suspended + 2 concurrent.

https://connachttribune.ie/mugger-jailed-for-vicious-attack-090/

Sonny noggs

I assume he will be deported upon his release from prison.

[Deleted User]

Why he isn’t immediately deported is the biggest question a plane ticket and kick in the arse is a lot cheaper than keeping him in jail at taxpayers expense.

Banned for ever reentering Ireland too of course!

jimbobaloobob

Rey Shallow Sucker wrote: »

Why he isn’t immediately deported is the biggest question a plane ticket and kick in the arse is a lot cheaper than keeping him in jail at taxpayers expense.

Banned for ever reentering Ireland too of course!

He may not face any penalty if deported.

[Deleted User]

Absolutely scummy thing and I'd say far too frequent

Nothing in that article suggests he wasn't born in Ireland why is he being deported??

Timberrrrrrrr

connemara man wrote: »

Absolutely scummy thing and I'd say far too frequent

Nothing in that article suggests he wasn't born in Ireland why is he being deported??

They see a foreign sounding name and automatically assume he isn't Irish.

Mrs OBumble

Rey Shallow Sucker wrote: »

Why he isn’t immediately deported is the biggest question a plane ticket and kick in the arse is a lot cheaper than keeping him in jail at taxpayers expense.

Deported to where? Australia's not taking our crims any more.

Your Face

Rey Shallow Sucker wrote: »

Why he isn’t immediately deported is the biggest question a plane ticket and kick in the arse is a lot cheaper than keeping him in jail at taxpayers expense.

Banned for ever reentering Ireland too of course!

Mad notion but he may have been born here.

Andrew00

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Deported to where? Australia's not taking our crims any more.

Deported back to his own country. Not that hard to understand

Timberrrrrrrr

Andrew00 wrote: »

Deported back to his own country. Not that hard to understand

What country is this?

vicwatson

Andrew00 wrote: »

Deported back to his own country. Not that hard to understand

Maybe he’s Irish?

biko

There is a lot of guessing going on here.
Let's just drop that until when/if it emerges whether the robber is Irish or not.

Del2005

Hoboo wrote: »

Happens every day.

Too true. I know someone who had a car stolen when showing it and I've heard of people turning up to buy a car/tractor/etc and being met be a person saying "You're here to buy X, give us your money or else."

The only people who benefit from our "justice" system are the solicitors and barristers.

1874

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

He may not face any penalty if deported.

If he wasnt a national/citizen, no matter if a tourist or involved in asylum or refugee status (but especially if involved in asylum or as a refugee, then if they cant keep their nose clean, it wouldnt appear they are not a beneficial addition to this society and probably why they are away from their own country).If the original country has a recognised democracy, then their crime should be considered for reporting as the reason for deportation. If they are escaping or allegedly escaping persecution, they should be returned to the country of original entry to the EU and the EU should fund their imprisonment.

IMO any of those involved in crime should either serve only the amount of their sentence so they can be detained until deported or have their full sentence suspended when they can be deported immediately, I would think that is the penalty they fear the most, their details recorded and a lifetime ban on re-entering under any circumstances, especially but not limited to violent crimes/assault/robbery/sexual assault/repeated offences of any kind.

As regards people who have obtained Irish nationality, well many countries allow their citizens to maintain dual citizenship, and for applicants here too, we should allow and insist upon it, it should be a condition of getting a visa here, at least for a duration of 10 years following such a situation, if they are involved in criminal activity or certain incidents, citizenship should be revoked and deported on their original passport/citizenship.

Anyone born here should be imprisoned, offered rehabilitation, education, if that doesnt work, lock them up long term.

xckjoo

Well that didn't take long to revert to a race/immigration discussion....

Cops in other countries have set up "safe spaces" for you to meet to do these kind of transactions. Wonder would the Guards have any interest in doing that here. I guess you can always arrange to meet them outside the cop shop

Del2005

xckjoo wrote: »

Well that didn't take long to revert to a race/immigration discussion....

Cops in other countries have set up "safe spaces" for you to meet to do these kind of transactions. Wonder would the Guards have any interest in doing that here. I guess you can always arrange to meet them outside the cop shop

The person meet them in an area with CCTV. They waited for them to leave the place before attacking him. What makes you think that they wouldn't attack someone when they leave the "safe space" or moves away from the Garda station?

Turnrew

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

He may not face any penalty if deported.

Who Packie Bonner?

xckjoo

Del2005 wrote: »

The person meet them in an area with CCTV. They waited for them to leave the place before attacking him. What makes you think that they wouldn't attack someone when they leave the "safe space" or moves away from the Garda station?

Dunno bud. Not that bothered. Was only trying to keep the thread on topic. You'll always have some idiot/lunatic that won't care about potential repercussions.

biko

The point of CCTV covered areas for purchasing isn't to prevent people from robbing you outside the covered area.
The point is having you, the item, and the robber on tape at the same time in case there is a later court case.

Scummers knowing their face is on CCTV is hopefully less likely to rob you.

pure.conya

biko wrote: »

The point of CCTV covered areas for purchasing isn't to prevent people from robbing you outside the covered area.
The point is having you, the item, and the robber on tape at the same time in case there is a later court case.

Scummers knowing their face is on CCTV is hopefully less likely to rob you.

you're assuming a level of intelligence beyond the reach of the typical demographics that would engage in such a scummy action

CrankyHaus

pure.conya wrote: »

you're assuming a level of intelligence beyond the reach of the typical demographics that would engage in such a scummy action

Or collective knowledge of the justice system and how it really functions means they're just not worried.

Here the case was pursued to the full, essentially it's the very worst that can happen to a criminal in our system. 3 years later the perpetrator was jailed for 3 years. Throw in the various reductions and he won't do much. He was only ID'd through attempts to use the stolen debit cards. No mention of his accomplices being prosecuted.

How many cases aren't pursued at all?
How many times do you think Mr Mwangi and acquantices of his got away for the same or worse?

Wompa1

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Or collective knowledge of the justice system and how it really functions means they're just not worried.

Here the case was pursued to the full, essentially it's the very worst that can happen to a criminal in our system. 3 years later the perpetrator was jailed for 3 years. Throw in the various reductions and he won't do much. He was only ID'd through attempts to use the stolen debit cards. No mention of his accomplices being prosecuted.

How many cases aren't pursued at all?
How many times do you think Mr Mwangi and acquantices of his got away for the same or worse?

Yep, that's a bigger problem. One of my neighbors back in the 2000's had 51 previous convictions and kept having cases against him dropped or only getting a slap on the wrist. Irish fella...sorry to disappoint some.

minikin

Thirteen previous convictions...
what a wonderful addition to the community.

We know the nationality of the victim...
why so coy about the perpetrator?

If he’s Irish then say he’s Irish...
if he’s Norwegian then say he’s Norwegian...
Not suggesting he be ‘sent home’ but let’s have an honest discussion, at least. To do otherwise allows more extreme opinions to fester in place of facts.

xckjoo

minikin wrote: »

Thirteen previous convictions...
what a wonderful addition to the community.

We know the nationality of the victim...
why so coy about the perpetrator?

If he’s Irish then say he’s Irish...
if he’s Norwegian then say he’s Norwegian...
Not suggesting he be ‘sent home’ but let’s have an honest discussion, at least. To do otherwise allows more extreme opinions to fester in place of facts.

Nationality is only a factor if certain nationalities are getting preferential treatment. Can't see that being a factor here. As Wompa pointed out, there's plenty of white Irish with huge numbers of convictions that continuing to live with no fear of the law.

There's also plenty of black Irish at this stage so there's a fairly decent chance his nationality is Irish.

Wompa1

minikin wrote: »

Thirteen previous convictions...
what a wonderful addition to the community.

We know the nationality of the victim...
why so coy about the perpetrator?

If he’s Irish then say he’s Irish...
if he’s Norwegian then say he’s Norwegian...
Not suggesting he be ‘sent home’ but let’s have an honest discussion, at least. To do otherwise allows more extreme opinions to fester in place of facts.

Do you remember many stories of crime in Ireland that labelled the culprit as Irish?

minikin

xckjoo wrote: »

Nationality is only a factor if certain nationalities are getting preferential treatment. Can't see that being a factor here. As Wompa pointed out, there's plenty of white Irish with huge numbers of convictions that continuing to live with no fear of the law.

There's also plenty of black Irish at this stage so there's a fairly decent chance his nationality is Irish.

So would it not benefit the discussion by pointing out that he is Irish, if that’s the case, rather than leaving it in limbo... open to speculation by those who would use his ‘otherness’ as a stick to beat all those who are not “from these parts”

Wompa1

minikin wrote: »

So would it not benefit the discussion by pointing out that he is Irish, if that’s the case, rather than leaving it in limbo... open to speculation by those who would use his ‘otherness’ as a stick to beat all those who are not “from these parts”

So they should write the article in a way that curtails people's deep seeded racism?