janfebmar wrote: » I thought the GFA was about parity of esteem, not condemnation of one side, and those who understand them by claiming they have low self esteem. At least your true colours are coming out now Francie. Still not willing to admit you are a shinnbot, even though you never voted and do not vote for them? Thankfully most Irish people are not like you.
munsterlegend wrote: » Leaders of Unionism and parity of esteem? You must be having a laugh. Irish language rights gay rights women’s rights all available throughout the IL except the north. Unionist policies are all about subjugating anything with a tinge if green. Even the denigration here by Unionist posters of the Irish language indicates a sick mindset.
FrancieBrady wrote: » You have a poster here that engages in the most childish form of it I have ever seen, 'the denial (he thinks) of parity of esteem' by never taking the time to spell Irish words properly. It's the juvenile taunting of Gregory Campbell all over again. Aided and feted by janfeb, who is willing to debase her own heritage and culture to 'av a pop at imaginary shinnerbots and such.
downcow wrote: » Absolute nonsense I am not a great believer in worrying about spelling of English language but spell check sorts it. You say I denegrade Irish language simply by having zero interest in. What have some posters been saying on her about Ulster Scots language? ( which I also have no interest in). Posters on here have been referring to aspects of my culture as kkk etc. And you say I’m debagrading yours. Give me an example of denegrading your culture
munsterlegend wrote: » Yeah they find it somehow amusing that ignorance of the island’s native tongue is a badge of honour. That does indicate a mindset lacking in self confidence and having an identity crisis.
One of the most talked about voices in European theatre is in hiding - and his extended family have been forced to flee their homes - after a campaign of death threats and bomb attacks by loyalist paramilitaries. Gary Mitchell, whose political thrillers have arguably made him Northern Ireland's greatest playwright, was told that every "Mitchell had to get out or be killed in four hours". His home was attacked by men with baseball bats and petrol bombs. Brought up on the sprawling Rathcoole estate in north Belfast which is dominated by the UDA, Mitchell is the authentic voice of working class loyalism, whose plays, including As the Beast Sleeps and the Force of Change, have shocked audiences in London and New York with the ugly truth about how paramilitary thugs still control their communities long after "peace".
FrancieBrady wrote: » Except the commemoration in Strabane for which you had to trawl the history of the conflict to find a victim to exploit in order to engage in a 'themuns' are as bad campaign. A campaign designed to vindicate what the band did in Derry.
munsterlegend wrote: » The Orange Order is a sectarian organization. You can dress it up anyway you want with bouncy castles chip vans or whatever family fun but nothing will change what in fact is stands for. It has no place in modern Irish society.
FrancieBrady wrote: » You'd almost think downcow, jan and Rob set that weak punchline ^^ up among themselves.
downcow wrote: » Well Francie etc Have yous changed your view a little in SF behaviour now and would you condemn it in trhe same way you are condemning the Clyde Valley Band? and should they issue an apology? https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/new...-38400645.html
janfebmar wrote: » It what way is it more sectarian than the Catholic Church, the Knights, Opus Dei etc? I am tolerant enough and happy enough to have the Catholic Church, Opus Dei, the GAA etc on the island of Ireland. It is not perfect, it has tens of thousands of members, a sizeable number of whom lost loved ones during what some saw as the Republican ethnic cleansing of certain areas etc.
armaghlad wrote: » I know I will never get an answer, but why is it that the unionist love-in for the killers at Bloody Sunday is somehow excused or justified by what the IRA has done? Why does this mentality exist? It wasn’t 14 SF or IRA members murdered. In fact some of the victims’ relatives actually despise SF. Why does this mentality exist?
downcow wrote: » Most unionists simply want all killers treated the same. ie chase them all down or leave them all alone. Why is that so hard for nationalists to understand. Certainly prosecute the paras but also take the royal pardons of your MLAs and make them face justice. ...and most unionists cannot understand the nationalist love in for ira sectarian killers eg the mastermind of the la mon sectarian massacre topping the poll time and time again and even southerners are now electing him. Explain that one for me?
munsterlegend wrote: » Simples yes/no question did the British army murder innocent civilians on Bloody Sunday?
downcow wrote: » I will answer that question but you guys duck everything. So I don’t regard BS as murder. Murder is the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. I don’t believe solder f premeditated the killing. This is why he will never be found guilty of murder. Now I have had the decency to answer your question. Could you tell me do you believe a number of prominent sf members committed murder ie premeditated??
steddyeddy wrote: » But by your logic IRA members who just shot soldiers on the spur of the moment weren't murderers.
downcow wrote: » Slightly different. They were carrying guns to murder if the opportunity arose. The BA were carrying gun to keep the peace, protect the community or defend themselves.
steddyeddy wrote: » downcow wrote: » I will answer that question but you guys duck everything. So I don’t regard BS as murder. Murder is the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. I don’t believe solder f premeditated the killing. This is why he will never be found guilty of murder. Now I have had the decency to answer your question. Could you tell me do you believe a number of prominent sf members committed murder ie premeditated?? But by your logic IRA members who just shot soldiers on the spur of the moment weren't murderers.
firemansam4 wrote: » Ever since bloody Sunday happened the victims of the atrocity were being made out as the aggressors by many in your community.
Junkyard Tom wrote: » They couldn't even be treated equally in their violent deaths. I'd say there was plenty of 'they-deserved-it' sentiment in the unionist community.
munsterlegend wrote: » That’s complete nonsense your interpretation of murder. It’s clear from the inquiry he shot knowing he would injure/kill innocent people. That’s either attempted murder or murder. He wasn’t acting in self defence. I am sure SF members were high up in the IRA and murdered yes. I am not a SF supporter so have no problem condemning such acts. You selectively condemn which is hypocritical.
