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The glorious 12th

realdanbreen

I see where there is a gigantic pile of pallets stacked up in an estate in Portadown which the fire service regard as a 'serious health and safety risk'. Apparently 30+ firms have been approached to remove/dismantle it but nobody will touch it. One things for certain if that was some years ago in a nationalist area the British army would be steaming in like a flash to dismantle it and anything else that was in its way.

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downcow

gwalk wrote: »

Seo libh canaig, amhrán na bhFiann.

Nothing about soldiers in that according to google

This is a song, a song of the Fianna

downcow

Pedro K wrote: »

Except you haven't been calling it the Soldiers Song generally, have you? You've been calling it 'the SS.'

Transparent and childish. Don't pretend like you don't know well what you're doing.

I find this a wee bit unbelievable. I really am pinching me self.
I use abbreviations of the two anthems in the same sentence gstq and ss and it seems it is offensive to shorten the soldiers song to abbreviations (I think - still not completely sure if that is the issue mind you seem to have confused some southerners to)
Just be clear with me. Is this the issue? Is this a bit like Americans find it offensive if their flag touches the ground yet you can use my flag as a beach towel and it’s no prob.

RobMc59

downcow wrote: »

Nothing about soldiers in that according to google

This is a song, a song of the Fianna

Google says Fianna is a band of warriors and the definition of warrior is a soldier or fighter..

downcow

So I’ve checked and apparently Amhràn na bhFiann translates as the soldiers song. So I now have no idea what the issue is and no one will enlighten my except in riddles.
If the problem is that I am referring to the English version, I apologise and will use the abbreviations anb from now on. Although I must point out that it was composed in English and then translated (I think by the shinners) into Irish.

downcow

downcow wrote: »

So I’ve checked and apparently Amhràn na bhFiann translates as the soldiers song. So I now have no idea what the issue is and no one will enlighten my except in riddles.
If the problem is that I am referring to the English version, I apologise and will use the abbreviations anb from now on. Although I must point out that it was composed in English and then translated (I think by the shinners) into Irish.

I have to say I do find it remarkable that not only are people defending the playing of anb at all island sports but it seems they want us northerners to sing it in a language that we can’t even speak. You couldn’t make it up.

downcow

My Irish before tonight was limited to:
Pogue ma hole
Borde na mona
Ogla na hern
Fianna fail
Tfalendh(chuckie) ar la
Borde failte
Fleadh
Feile
And some names like siobhan

Now I can add Amhràn na bhFiann

Oh yes. And (I don’t know how to spell this) if someone says gea ditch to me I hope I am correct when I try to be polite by saying gea Mara ditch

downcow

RobMc59 wrote: »

Google says Fianna is a band of warriors and the definition of warrior is a soldier or fighter..

Ok that makes sense

FrancieBrady

downcow wrote: »

My Irish before tonight was limited to:
Pogue ma hole
Borde na mona
Ogla na hern
Fianna fail
Tfalendh(chuckie) ar la
Borde failte
Fleadh
Feile
And some names like siobhan

Now I can add Amhràn na bhFiann

Oh yes. And (I don’t know how to spell this) if someone says gea ditch to me I hope I am correct when I try to be polite by saying gea Mara ditch

Imagine there are Unionists afraid of seeing words like those.

gwalk

RobMc59 wrote: »

downcow wrote: »

Nothing about soldiers in that according to google

This is a song, a song of the Fianna

Google says Fianna is a band of warriors and the definition of warrior is a soldier or fighter..

A wild white knight appears...shock

RobMc59

downcow wrote: »

My Irish before tonight was limited to:
Pogue ma hole
Borde na mona
Ogla na hern
Fianna fail
Tfalendh(chuckie) ar la
Borde failte
Fleadh
Feile
And some names like siobhan

Now I can add Amhràn na bhFiann

Oh yes. And (I don’t know how to spell this) if someone says gea ditch to me I hope I am correct when I try to be polite by saying gea Mara ditch

I was surprised when listening to Ronnie Drew narrating Irish myths and legends that Setanta was a name for Cu Chulainn-I`d heard it previously used as an Irish sports channel name!

gwalk

downcow wrote: »

RobMc59 wrote: »

Google says Fianna is a band of warriors and the definition of warrior is a soldier or fighter..

Ok that makes sense

Now can you go back and elaborate on my supposed encounters you were speculating about before Sir Robert of Liverpool arrived to your defence

downcow

RobMc59 wrote: »

I was surprised when listening to Ronnie Drew narrating Irish myths and legends that Setanta was a name for Cu Chulainn-I`d heard it previously used as an Irish sports channel name!

Interesting. Never new that

Odhinn

downcow wrote: »

My Irish before tonight was limited to:
Pogue ma hole
Borde na mona
Ogla na hern
Fianna fail
Tfalendh(chuckie) ar la
Borde failte
Fleadh
Feile
And some names like siobhan

Now I can add Amhràn na bhFiann

Oh yes. And (I don’t know how to spell this) if someone says gea ditch to me I hope I am correct when I try to be polite by saying gea Mara ditch

"Tiocfaidh ar la"

FrancieBrady

RobMc59 wrote: »

I was surprised when listening to Ronnie Drew narrating Irish myths and legends that Setanta was a name for Cu Chulainn-I`d heard it previously used as an Irish sports channel name!

His uncle was Conchobar MacNessa, the King Of Ulster...all of Ulster, not a bit of it.

janfebmar

downcow wrote: »

Yeah I thought it wasn’t pretty bad last week to eulogise the ira on the spot they murdered a baby. But I wouldn’t ban them from it

They are more interested in myths and legends and re-writing history than in anything else.

FrancieBrady

You'd almost think downcow, jan and Rob set that weak punchline ^^ up among themselves.

The Golden Miller

downcow wrote: »

I have to say I do find it remarkable that not only are people defending the playing of anb at all island sports but it seems they want us northerners to sing it in a language that we can’t even speak. You couldn’t make it up.

You speak on behalf of all northerners?

timthumbni

The Golden Miller wrote: »

You speak on behalf of all northerners?

Never heard it called anything but SS and that includes by Tyrone gaa straw hat wearing deliverance types. And there are plenty of those I can tell you. Great banjo players though..

The Golden Miller

timthumbni wrote: »

Never heard it called anything but SS and that includes by Tyrone gaa straw hat wearing deliverance types. And there are plenty of those I can tell you. Great banjo players though..

Nice anecdote! I was more querying the terminology used though. "Northerners" in this context, as opposed to say....unionists?

timthumbni

I see After the few nights of petrol bombing in Londonderry during the week that included the gem of the cops saying very young teenagers were involved and asked anyone of influence to call a halt to their scummery.

Hhmmmm. Young teenagers perhaps 14 upwards. I wonder who could be responsible for them.???

Perhaps their parents possibly?

Stroke city is turning into a mini west Belfast. And unless you are into mass joyriding/anti social behaviour then that possibly isn’t positive.

But at least your Mep can do the drunk uncle dance...

The Golden Miller

timthumbni wrote: »

I see After the few nights of petrol bombing in Londonderry during the week that included the gem of the cops saying very young teenagers were involved and asked anyone of influence to call a halt to their scummery.

Hhmmmm. Young teenagers perhaps 14 upwards. I wonder who could be responsible for them.???

Perhaps their parents possibly?

Stroke city is turning into a mini west Belfast. And unless you are into mass joyriding/anti social behaviour then that possibly isn’t positive..

You seem really concerned!

FrancieBrady

timthumbni wrote: »

I see After the few nights of petrol bombing in Londonderry during the week that included the gem of the cops saying very young teenagers were involved and asked anyone of influence to call a halt to their scummery.

Hhmmmm. Young teenagers perhaps 14 upwards. I wonder who could be responsible for them.???

Perhaps their parents possibly?

Stroke city is turning into a mini west Belfast. And unless you are into mass joyriding/anti social behaviour then that possibly isn’t positive.

But at least your Mep can do the drunk uncle dance...

downcow says, 'Leave them kids alone'.

timthumbni

The Golden Miller wrote: »

You seem really concerned!

I can see Londonderry turning into a mini west Belfast. In fact it already is. You reap what you sow I suppose. Anti social heaven. But I’m sure their community will keep blaming the brits etc.

50 years ago from 1969 and violent Irish republicans are still rioting and shooting wee girls for no particular reason.

Take responsibility for your own actions ffs.

downcow

The Golden Miller wrote: »

You speak on behalf of all northerners?

Read it again

“I have to say I do find it remarkable that not only are people defending the playing of anb at all island sports but it seems they want us northerners to sing it in a language that we can’t even speak. You couldn’t make it up.”

I wasn’t speaking for any northerners at all. My comment was about those who think all northerners should sing anb and in Irish

downcow

FrancieBrady wrote: »

His uncle was Conchobar MacNessa, the King Of Ulster...all of Ulster, not a bit of it.

I thought you wanted to ‘reunite’ Ireland Now you are telling us about the King of Ulster Maybe we could reunite Ulster and bring the 3 counties that left back into the fold.

Would that be ok or are you determined to unify and island that has only ever been unified under British force? It’s ironic that you are going to copy what the brits done lol
In your scenario the NE of the island would have new unwanted occupying forces. Surely you couldn’t countenance. Force them to learn Irish, wave a flag that never had anything to do with them and sing anb

I say get the bridge built and get us reunited with our kith and kin Dalriada lol

FrancieBrady

downcow wrote: »

I thought you wanted to ‘reunite’ Ireland Now you are telling us about the King of Ulster Maybe we could reunite Ulster and bring the 3 counties that left back into the fold.

Would that be ok or are you determined to unify and island that has only ever been unified under British force? It’s ironic that you are going to copy what the brits done lol
In your scenario the NE of the island would have new unwanted occupying forces. Surely you couldn’t countenance. Force them to learn Irish, wave a flag that never had anything to do with them and sing anb

I say get the bridge built and get us reunited with our kith and kin Dalriada lol

I made the concept simple for the willful outsiders. I want to 'unite' the island.

Why complicate it with notions the willful outsider will never understand because he/she doesn't want to understand? He/she fears most that his/her tribe will understand.

janfebmar

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I made the concept simple for the willful outsiders. I want to 'unite' the island.

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You condoned shooting and bombing the wilful outsiders here (as you call them), even though most have been here longer than white man has been in America, Australia or New Zealand.

How are your plans for resettlement of the outsiders , in the event of a "United Ireland', coming along Francie? You sure the money raised by confiscating the stolen lands will cover the relocation costs of those nasty imperialists and the indoctrination costs of those "partionists" (as you call them) left behind?
Any costings yet on how much it will cost to translate everything in to the first national language, rename roads and train stations in N Ireland etc after our patriots like Bobby Sands etc?

FrancieBrady

When tribes don't assimilate, they continue to be outsiders.

downcow tells us he hasn't even bothered to learn about the environment he is living in, in fact he is PROUD of that fact. He is proud of the fact he knows nothing of the native customs and language.

That is being a 'willful outsider'.
Partitionists of course, aid and abet that, because they either benefit from the outsider being here or have such a low self esteem that they mimic the outsider.

janfebmar

I thought the GFA was about parity of esteem, not condemnation of one side, and those who understand them by claiming they have low self esteem.

At least your true colours are coming out now Francie. Still not willing to admit you are a shinnbot, even though you never voted and do not vote for them?

Thankfully most Irish people are not like you.

munsterlegend

janfebmar wrote: »

I thought the GFA was about parity of esteem, not condemnation of one side, and those who understand them by claiming they have low self esteem.

At least your true colours are coming out now Francie. Still not willing to admit you are a shinnbot, even though you never voted and do not vote for them?

Leaders of Unionism and parity of esteem? You must be having a laugh. Irish language rights gay rights women’s rights all available throughout the Uk except the north. Unionist policies are all about subjugating anything with a tinge if green. Even the denigration here by Unionist posters of the Irish language indicates a sick mindset.