Blueshoe wrote: » Ireland is responsible for .13 % of global emissions. The only difference a tax on us will make is the average person will be poorer. The already poor will be even more so and the rich won't feel any different. Do you not think you pay enough tax? I think I do and I also think I see no return on it. Where will the tax take be spent? Already in the news this week we see rumblings about how much money the government will lose on excise duty if the switch to ev is made.
Tell me how wrote: » Do you understand the principle of changing behaviors through financial or legal penalties? Example a = plastic bag tax Example b = smoking in workplace ban
shesty wrote: » I think there are arguments for incentives making people change their behaviour quicker than greater taxes.
SafeSurfer wrote: » Yes of course I do. My question was do you think we can control the temperature of the earth through taxation?
Tell me how wrote: » Ireland is failing to meet it's agreed CO2 emmissions target. We are one of worst in EU in this respect. This nonsense of 'we're only making a small impact' is what is allowing people to feel they are absolved from having to change. We have local, national and EU elections every 5 years, if you don't like our use of tax, you have the opportunity to vote for someone to change that.
Blueshoe wrote: » I never miss the opportunity to vote. But Iv also realized that the Irish government marches to the EU tune. It's a waste of time really. You are hardly guilible enough to think that your vote actually makes any difference are you?
Tell me how wrote: » How do you know they are unrelated? Attending protests and gearing frequent conversations about Greta are much more likely to have influenced their opinions than not. If Greta only started her protest 1 month ago or if no protests had been held in Ireland, I'd agree with you but that is not the case.It's very judgemental to suggest you can state they are unrelated.
Tell me how wrote: » 12,000 scientists signed statement supporting children striking for action on climate.https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00861-z.
One eyed Jack wrote: » Suggesting that Greta and environmental campaigners had any influence on the number of applications for environmental sciences courses is a leap.
Tell me how wrote: » It makes the exact same difference as every other vote. Collectively, we get the government our society wants. If you want to go the BS conspiracy theory route, there's other threads for that or Gemma will welcome you in Barrow Street.
jackboy wrote: » That is not science, it is basically a petition.
Tell me how wrote: » https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/03/climate-crisis-is-about-to-put-humanity-at-risk-un-scientists-warnhttps://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49149761https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warminghttps://climate.nasa.gov/effects/ If you are trying to discount Greta's position purely on the basis of whether the cliff edge is 2030 or not, you're deliberately being pedantic in order to ignore the reality.
Blueshoe wrote: » Because Im aware my vote makes no difference I'm thrown in with O Doherty and crew! Deluded much. The EU does dictate climate policy. Ireland goes along
Tell me how wrote: » Knock yourself out.
Blueshoe wrote: » People quoting the Guardian is the same as me quoting Breitbart
Tell me how wrote: » We can help reduce the amount if CO2 which impacts earth temperature through taxation, yes. Can Ireland alone tax our way to preventing global temperature rise? No. Does that we don't do what we can (adhering to Paris agreement for a start)? Also no.
Tell me how wrote: » So to with the other 3........
Blueshoe wrote: » What's the latest timeline? I didn't look at any of the others because you quoted the guardian. That's enough for me.
hetuzozaho wrote: » An interesting approach to becoming informed
SafeSurfer wrote: » Just as I thought. I have the ability to pose questions from original ideas that you have an inability to address. How many times now have you used the copy and paste reply to deflect, 5? It makes you look foolish debating like that.
Tell me how wrote: » 11,000 students March in Dail on climate protest. Later that summer increased numbers applied for environmental courses. Yeah, there's definitely no relation.
MarquisDeSad wrote: » What am I deflecting from?. I haven't entered into a discussion with you. You wrote about some new world nonsense. Why would I take you seriously. I have made that clear that I don't take you seriously. You have given me a chuckle buts that about it and your not even original which is a bit of a disappointment. Now just admit that you copied and pasted that nonsense
Blueshoe wrote: » We had the hole in ozone layer going to kill is all first. Then we were told by the year 2000 we would be in serious trouble What's the latest timeline? I didn't look at any of the others because you quoted the guardian. That's enough for me.
jackboy wrote: » They are just articles full of waffle. There are massive gaps in our understanding and knowledge of climate change. Those articles are not science.
Tell me how wrote: » Really, are NASA in the habit of publishing non science?
Tell me how wrote: » None so blind as those that will not see. Everything's fine, you're right, don't worry.
jackboy wrote: » It’s an article. Articles are not science.
Tell me how wrote: » You're right actually, that's their creative writing department. I'm surprised you can type with your head in the sand.
