One eyed Jack wrote: » Do plenty of kids really go on long or perilous sailing trips? I don’t think they do, and that’s what contributes to this trip for a child being so exceptional.
Dohnjoe wrote: » Yes they do. She is being accompanied by experienced sailors. There is still a risk of course, but that's her and her parents choice.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » I doubt it was her parents choice. She has no one familiar with HER challenges.
Dohnjoe wrote: » Plenty of kids go on long or perilous sailing trips. Oh some in this thread are concerned? Aaahh I could have sworn they were annoyed and irritated by this girl's actions but are masking it with a faux concern
jackofalltrades wrote: » How many of them have had serious mental health issues and are were travelling in similar conditions? How did they get on?
One eyed Jack wrote: » As I keep having to reiterate though - I don’t blame Greta, she’s doing exactly what any child would do if they were let. I blame the adults around her for letting her do whatever she wants to do and not calling a halt to this childish nonsense a lot sooner.
gozunda wrote: » You seem confused dohnjoe. These points do not have to be mutually exclusive.
Tell me how wrote: » What are you trying to say?
Tell me how wrote: » The wishful thinking is oozing out of this post.
bubblypop wrote: » This is a girl, who, got so depressed when she learnt about climate change that she started self harming, refused to eat & refused to talk.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » She is 16 with Aspergers. Its a challenging time for parents as they decide how much independence to give their child or not. I doubt they would have wanted this. But she is getting to an age where they feel they can't refuse. She is still regularly self harming according to her mother and still has issues with eating and OCD. Not to mention emotional issues regarding the sense of being overwhelmed most people with aspergers feel when they are over stimulated. Also children with Asperger tend to mature later than other children developmentally but not intellectually. Developmentally they continue until their late twenties usually. An eleven year old with Asperger is intellectually like an eleven yr old but developmentally like a toddler. This delay can be significant; for example, a 21-year-old may seem socially and emotionally more like a 14-year-old. Add to this her self harm ocd and eating disorder etc. Is there someone on the boat who understands this and can be with her to support her needs? Maybe there is someone i don't know.
I think Greta's recent and ongoing experiences are largely going to have a positive effect on her. I'm not discounting the risk on a yacht but risk exists in most walks of life. I do also think that her development will be different to most children of her age but I do not think that that equates to mistreatment of her by her parents.
Dohnjoe wrote: » Her dad is going with her
Dohnjoe wrote: » I believe it's estimated there are around 1500+ private crossings of the Atlantic each year. She's not actually sailing the boat (many are), she's a passenger, with a professional crew, her highest risk is really discomfort as it's a racing boat, only has two beds and isn't exactly luxurious. In terms of sailing risk, it would be below average for that kind of crossing considering the crew.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » Is there someone on the boat who understands this and can be with her to support her needs? Maybe there is someone i don't know.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » She is 16 with Aspergers. Its a challenging time for parents as they decide how much independence to give their child or not. I doubt they would have wanted this. But she is getting to an age where they feel they can't refuse. She is still regularly self harming according to her mother and still has issues with eating and OCD. Not to mention emotional issues regarding the sense of being overwhelmed most people with aspergers feel when they are over stimulated. Also children with Asperger tend to mature later than other children developmentally but not intellectually. Developmentally they continue until their late twenties usually. An eleven year old with Asperger is intellectually like an eleven yr old but developmentally like a toddler. This delay can be significant; for example, a 21-year-old may seem socially and emotionally more like a 14-year-old. Add to this her self harm ocd and eating disorder etc.Is there someone on the boat who understands this and can be with her to support her needs? Maybe there is someone i don't know.
gozunda wrote: » The fact is that children with aspergers often require personal space and familiar surroundings to help them cope.
Dohnjoe wrote: » Not confused in the slightest. People generate a false concern to mask the fact that they are just pissed off and want to indulge in moaning about something. It's boards after all. Of course you can't really write "Im sick of this climate change bull**** and this little attention seeker and her antics", so it has to be dressed up We know the drill
hetuzozaho wrote: » I'd be assuming they have it all under control. Has there been word from the boat that something is not under control?
hetuzozaho wrote: » Is the childish nonsense the zero carbon Atlantic voyage?
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » They get overstimulated. The result is migraines and meltdowns. I have a cousin who is autistic. I presume they have music or a laptop for her. We would give my cousin earphones etc. She would just play the same song over and over again. It gave her the space she needed. There isn't an issue with someone with Aspergers becoming an activist. There is an issue with people not accepting her as she is with all her vulnerabilities laid out. It would be good for people to acknowledge the amount of support she needs and receives and that many people with Asperger could do as well with that support. The image of her is not the reality of Aspergers.
Cyclical Apocalypse wrote: » I'm sure you are aware that Aspergers happens on a Spectrum it's possible that she may only have a very mild case where she is barely affected.
Deleted User wrote: » Greta is receiving ferocious criticism, which means a nerve has been struck. The personal attacks from some quarters highlighting her autism are unwarranted. I don't doubt her sincerity for a minute. Good luck to the young woman.
One eyed Jack wrote: » Is that any different than your assertion that the child is the driving force behind this latest campaign?
You as an adult can’t really write “people won’t do what I want”.
CinemaGuy45 wrote: » Autism Aspergers boo hoo. She is part of the super rich elite she might be on a boat without a crapper by I doubt she or her family are riding public transport or attending overcrowded public hospitals.
