Nermal wrote: » She'll be fine. She can walk on water, according to half of this thread.
kowloon wrote: » I'm not saying there aren't genuine people, but the people getting triggered by a little girl are pretty bitter about it. What some people consider realistic is no taxes or any real change to what they're comfortable with, and that doesn't tick the 'hope of working' box. Either way, it's not like a negotiation where there are two sides that can come to an agreement, there's no meeting half way with the climate. We're either making it worse or we're not and the consensus seems to be with the former.
Faugheen wrote: » I was going to link a tweet to someone wishing for a 'freak yachting accident'.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » That's not the case. People do want to help. They just want something realistic with a hope of working. And suggested by someone on planet earth. As regards inconvenience etc ...people need to be met half way. You don't get everything you want.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » From what i can tell from her book she is incapable of functioning without around the clock parental support. That isn't her fault its just the way she is. She can't eat or be relied upon not to self harm unless her mother supervises her. That is what its says in the book. How is supposed to last the duration of this trip safely?
kowloon wrote: » That's not how I see it. What I see is a bunch of people pissed off because they don't want to put up with the inconvenience or cost of doing anything. Instead, they just project and grump about all the bloody do-gooders. Then there are the people who will fight tooth and nail to frame climate change as some sort of conspiracy. The super-wealthy will continue to live better than the rest of us 'green' or not, but that doesn't mean we have to burn everything down just to spite them. It amazes me how far people will go to stick it to the man/other team/political party. People deliberately buying plastic straws to litter the place with aren't taking a political stance, they just need to cop on to themselves.
Jimmy Garlic wrote: » Classic Hegelian dialectics in play. The problem is offered up to us. Propaganda is used to garner support and get the desired reaction from the public. Once the public is softened up enough by the propaganda then they will accept the solution. Get poor and loose basic freedoms to save the planet, that's the solution. That doesn't apply to the aristocrat from Monaco though, the real "climate sacrifice" only applies to the little people.
Feisar wrote: » As long as she sails back.
AllForIt wrote: » How is Saint Greta getting back, anyone know?
lawred2 wrote: » I find it odd that you see no reason to ever see any inspiration in something a child could do. Based on nothing other than your own perceived 'role in society' For the record, I'm not remotely arsed about this particular case.
Greta is eleven years old and has gone two months without eating. Her heart rate and blood pressure show clear signs of starvation. She has stopped speaking to anyone but her parents and younger sister, Beata.
And the global school strike for climate is led by a girl with a long and tragic history of self-harm to her own body. In Scenes from the Heart, when Greta eventually starts eating again, she only allows herself certain foods. Her mother has to prepare the same food every day for Greta to bring to school and keep in the school refrigerator: pancakes filled with rice. Greta will eat them only if there is no sticker with her name on the container: stickers, paper and newspapers trigger Greta’s OCD against eating.
As her anxieties intensified in adolescence there was inadequate support. She ended up in both NHS- and privately run hellholes, learning self-harm from other patients, secluded and frequently restrained.
Originally Posted by Thargor View Post I get a very disturbing vibe from people like the OP and loons that show up ranting about her in any climate change threads, not suggesting paedophilia, but it's just bizarre that a young girl with an interest in environmentalism or politics triggers such intense negative feelings in so many adult males, this isn't just 'oh Leonardo DiCaprio or Al Gore are at it again', they're literally foaming at the mouth over it and flinging slurs at her and her family. Why? Something definitely not right about it.
Sweetemotion wrote: » That's just toxic nonsense.
lainey_d_123 wrote: » Because many men simply cannot deal with women or girls having opinions and especially when those opinions are widely respected. I've seen it when I was line managing men, I've seen it in hobby groups (I have stereotypically 'nerdy' hobbies mostly done by men), I see it now at work. There are so many men who truly, genuinely believe that women should not have 'ideas above their station'. They do not respect women or their beliefs or their opinions. They seem to see women as objects or as inferior little beings who can be easily charmed and influenced. The second this kind of man realises you aren't just a pretty face, a silly little girl who will laugh at their jokes and fawn all over them, they turn on you very viciously.
Thargor wrote: » I get a very disturbing vibe from people like the OP and loons that show up ranting about her in any climate change threads, not suggesting paedophilia, but it's just bizarre that a young girl with an interest in environmentalism or politics triggers such intense negative feelings in so many adult males, this isn't just 'oh Leonardo DiCaprio or Al Gore are at it again', they're literally foaming at the mouth over it and flinging slurs at her and her family. Why? Something definitely not right about it.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » What 16 yr old wears her hair in two heidi plaits EVERYDAY ?
One eyed Jack wrote: » Maybe you could explain what you think is odd about adults not taking their inspiration from children? It’s my role as an adult in society is important, that role being to inspire and provide for and protect children, rather than weaponise them to promote my own beliefs. I take it you disagree and perhaps that’s why you think my attitude is weird. That’s fair enough, but at least now you might understand why I disagree with what the adults in this case are doing.
Calhoun wrote: » It's quite genius actually, has the making of a PR man's wet dream. She's even immune to criticism because of her condition and in turn it's used as a near truth for what she is saying.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » God your wan is NO opera singer that is WOEFUL. can people please understand being able to sing from your diaphragm does NOT mean you are classically singing.
[Deleted User] wrote: » You make it sound like the media concocted her in a lab. She decided to start her own protest about a topic she was passionate about. And here's the best bit, it was long before the media got involved. It started to snowball and eventually thousands of youngsters had joined her. THEN the media arrived. Its a big story because its a young wan trying to do what the grown ups won't even attempt to do. I personally think we're ****ed, I think we're beyond the point of return in terms of climate change, ice melting, seas rising, etc. Greta has my utmost admiration still. It's great to see someone of her age passionate about such an important thing. When I was her age I was playing headers at the side of a pub. So maybe we should open up our ears and have a listen to the kids, they cant be any worse than the adults.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » Her parents PR did. This is her mother. Her dad is a author, arts manager and producer, and actor. They both have pr firms. She is represented by them.
odyssey06 wrote: » I fully agree with you with the disgraceful behaviour of the adults in this. But these children, or rather youths (because I don't think it's accurate to lump 6 year old kids and 16 year old youths together like) are inspirational:https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/rescuers-recognised-for-acts-of-bravery-in-dublin-ceremony-876958.html But their actions should not be expected, and it is not their role. But is is inspirational to know what they could do .
Deleted User wrote: » You make it sound like the media concocted her in a lab. .
Nermal wrote: » Because it's obvious she's being deliberately built up by the media. The attention she gets is not 'organic', it's orchestrated. It helps the media in getting clicks from supporters and from detractors, and it helps manufacture consensus for an environmental agenda. It's transparent manipulation. Of course that will make people mad! It's a bizarre phenomenon. Since when did we value the opinions of children?