One eyed Jack wrote: » Maybe you could explain what you think is odd about adults not taking their inspiration from children? It’s my role as an adult in society is important, that role being to inspire and provide for and protect children, rather than weaponise them to promote my own beliefs. I take it you disagree and perhaps that’s why you think my attitude is weird. That’s fair enough, but at least now you might understand why I disagree with what the adults in this case are doing.
Homesick Alien wrote: » You have zero credibility.
CrankyHaus wrote: » Only the enlightened demi-gods like you may have an opinion on this so? Suit yourself. I've already made far more of a contribution to this discussion than your sniping has. I was aware of the climate strike but, being wary of how entertainment increasingly masquerades as news, I instinctively avoided the more hype filled coverage of the personalities involved as there are far more important things to pay attention to. From the links in the first page of the thread I was able to catch up quickly by reading up on her today. She seems like a genuinely well intentioned person but my concerns about her background remain. Ayone can be a zealot for immediate action if it just means they go from a Porsche 911 to a Tesla S for their 17th birthday present, the representatives at the UN have more serious sacrifices to discuss.
lawred2 wrote: » So nothing a young person could do would ever inspire you? That's the oddest attitude ever. Your 'role in society'!? Jeez you're self important aren't you.
whisky_galore wrote: » She's ballast.
odyssey06 wrote: » She's not crew.
lawred2 wrote: » She'll be flying back though.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » They are using her name. A teen girl two weeks on that.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » I really doubt it.
One eyed Jack wrote: » We’re so far apart on this one lola I’m not sure there’s going to be any agreement. I do see where you’re coming from and I get why you would admire her for her enthusiasm and her work. I admire her for that too. I think it’s great that she has such enthusiasm and passion for something she believes in. This is absolutely something people are used to seeing in children no matter what country or society they were raised in, no matter what time they were raised in. According to Biblical accounts, Jesus was 12 when he started his journey of social justice advocacy But that’s why I said earlier that the idea of using children to promote adults beliefs is nothing new. Not too many are going to shoot the messenger when they’re a child, and the adults using the child as a shield know this. That’s what makes what the adults are doing wrong. That’s what ruffles my feathers. I don’t hold the child, Greta in this case, in any way responsible for “her” message. I absolutely disagree with you that we don’t live in a world where adults protect their children and create a society where their children can thrive. That’s exactly what most adults do, and there will always be the few that will regale their children as the new Messiah. All bets are off when the child becomes an adult and then we can fire at will on the messenger, but while they’re a child, nobody is going to do that, because they believe children need protecting from adults who would seek to put any responsibility on a child before that child has developed the mental capacity and maturity to have adult interactions with adults. I don’t find Greta the least bit inspirational, because she’s a child. I don’t take inspiration from children because my role in society as an adult is to inspire children so that when they become adults, they can do the things that adults do and they have the capacity to fully understand what they’re doing, as opposed to placing their trust in adults who it’s clear couldn’t care less about her welfare and care more about using a child to promote their own message and shield them and their message, from criticism. The novelty will wear off Greta when she grows up, only to have her replaced with another child. It’s very rare that children who attain fame in early childhood themselves go on to become mature adults who contribute to society. So when a group of adults are demanding that people examine their attitudes to the long term welfare of our environment while using a child to do so, it’s only appropriate for other people to suggest that those people examine the long term consequences of their own actions first and what those actions could mean for a child that they’re supposed to protect from coming to harm.
riffmongous wrote: » And neither are you nor most of the people here opposed to her. She is the one saying listen to the scientists though
Faugheen wrote: » I was going to link a tweet to someone wishing for a 'freak yachting accident'. However I see one of the regular scumbags who wishes harm on a child got here first and is hiding behind the mask of a 'joke'.
odyssey06 wrote: » Does this look like a vessel designed for passengers? She's not crew, but if you're going across the Atlantic in hurricane season, I think you need a bit more awareness than on an Airbus, a passenger liner or a cruiser. I wish her a safe voyage, but it's a voyage she should not be on.
bubblypop wrote: » People don't need a child to point them towards scientists.
is_that_so wrote: » Knowing is not the same as having the life experience to understand how it can be addressed. As others have said she is not a scientist.
is_that_so wrote: » It's an issue for our times no less than banning the bomb was a source of depression and great fear for an earlier generation. There really is no benefit to be had in disparaging previous generations. It leads to distrust, false accusations and ultimately communication breakdown. People as symbols are a danger to themselves in the sense that they can be undone and undermined by those who either wish to exploit them or bring them down. If we need an image it is something that endures.
Tell me how wrote: » Do you agree that plane passengers don't fly the plane? Can you apply that knowledge to the concept of travelling by boat?
Widdensushi wrote: » I guess she won't be using plastic bags !!
Dakota Dan wrote: » You can bet your bottom dollar that she’s flying over but the fools will keep lapping it up.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » I haven't at all. I have said plainly I attack the people using a child for their own gains. August is hurricane season on the Atlantic by the way. Its not a real racing team its an 'ECO RACING TEAM'. They've never won anything. Its a bunch of aristocrats. Anyway racing teams OFTEN have to be rescued even expert ones. I am surprised they took someone under 18.
sk8erboii wrote: » Yeah youre right. Was stuck in traffic for too long, so im a bit catty
Dakota Dan wrote: » They have to use buckets.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » Neither have I. I don't deny it either. And if anyone does deny it I just smile and change the subject let it go like. Its not worth it.
sk8erboii wrote: » Ive never met a single PHD student while doing my postgrad who denied climate change.
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