Berserker wrote: » Fionn1952 wrote: » In my lifetime, there hasn't been a year passed without issue. There has been. Take off your republican blinkers and work your way back through the years. It won't take you very long to find one.
Fionn1952 wrote: » In my lifetime, there hasn't been a year passed without issue.
Berserker wrote: » Oh, I'm well aware of the SF PR machine. But for Republicans and their total lack of respect for Protestant culture there'd be no issues at all.
Junkyard Tom wrote: » This culture?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Can you or downcow tell us how you know it was the exact spot even? It is laughable that those who will call the burning of effigies of recently dead people 'culture' or who can not see that marching into a city in support of a soldier who has confessed to killing is also 'culture require the other side to check through the entire history of the conflict to make sure nobody has died on or near the spot where you decide to have a spontaneous dance. I am sure somebody must have been drooling when they found that poor child in the archives. By all means criticise the internment bonfires, they deserve that, in the strongest tones. But this spurious exploitative nonsense will wither on the vine as more, 'look at themuns' excuse making.
downcow wrote: » Hypocrisy Francie. Can i assure you that Matina Anderson was wearing her IRA T shirt much closer to where the child was killed than the band was to where the BS people were killed
downcow wrote: » Junkyard we had this debate and you lost it. I think we all accepted that there were large numbers of IRA killers in the GAA
Fionn1952 wrote: » Go for it, name the year, I'll find the incident. This is nothing to do with Republicanism, this is an, 'actually growing up and living in the North' thing. I have no problem with Protestants, no problem with Unionists, or Unionist culture (you'll find me arguing for respect towards Ulster Scots culture in another thread), I don't even have a problem with Orangeism (you'll note me holding up a different Orange parade as aspirational earlier in the thread), so take your lazy, cop out excuse making elsewhere and try make your point on merit rather than insults towards me.
downcow wrote: » This is ridiculous. Do you know any event involving 100,000s that there is not minor issues at the perifery. GAA matches, St Patricks day, whatever. It seems you requirement for behaviour by 100,000s at 12th is no one gets drunk, no litter is dropped, no one urinates where they should't - show me any large nationalist event and i will show you law braeking. This is clear sectarian begotry
FrancieBrady wrote: » It wasn't an IRA shirt even. It said 'An Srath Bán 1981-2019'. Are you proposing a further ban on Orange Marches that go anywhere near where a Catholic/Nationalist was tragically killed...have you thought this through? Taking offence were none was intended is not the fault of organisers downcow, that really is your problem to sort out.
downcow wrote: » I don;t know what the irish means but it looked to me like it supported 10 terrorists. I actually think the ira have everfy right to parade through strabane provided it is legal and law abiding, which is exactly what i also feel about ABOD. Consistency all the way with me francie. it you want thye two traditions treated differently
steddyeddy wrote: » Well I take it you have a problem with a murderer in the Orange Order the same way you would with the GAA?
downcow wrote: » Fionn1952 wrote: » Go for it, name the year, I'll find the incident. This is nothing to do with Republicanism, this is an, 'actually growing up and living in the North' thing. I have no problem with Protestants, no problem with Unionists, or Unionist culture (you'll find me arguing for respect towards Ulster Scots culture in another thread), I don't even have a problem with Orangeism (you'll note me holding up a different Orange parade as aspirational earlier in the thread), so take your lazy, cop out excuse making elsewhere and try make your point on merit rather than insults towards me. This is ridiculous. Do you know any event involving 100,000s that there is not minor issues at the perifery. GAA matches, St Patricks day, whatever. It seems you requirement for behaviour by 100,000s at 12th is no one gets drunk, no litter is dropped, no one urinates where they should't - show me any large nationalist event and i will show you law braeking. This is clear sectarian begotry
FrancieBrady wrote: » Show me any other event with security costs like this downcow.https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/09/cost-of-securing-belfast-protest-camp-to-exceed-21m-says-police-chief-george-hamilton
downcow wrote: » The security is required because nationalists want to confront the event
downcow wrote: » Show me any other event where an MP has stated that a terrorist organisation has worked hard to create difficulties for the event taking place - and commended them for it? The security is required because nationalists want to confront the event
steddyeddy wrote: » You stated that nationalists want to confront the event only a few posts after you stated you have no problem with a serial killer of Catholics in the organisation. So lets reverse the situation. Do you think loyalists would want to confront a nationalist march that had a serial killer of unionists in it?
downcow wrote: » Unionist ignore the gaa with all its murderers. Unionists in Killeen with it 95% town centre ignore the ira band lead by a killer of local people. Do you need some evidence?
Matt Barrett wrote: » Is all you have to offer 'whatabout'? Can everything be justified if 'the other side' did similar? What of the ordinary people? You need move on.
downcow wrote: » I answered a whataboutery question. Why don’t you challenge the person who asked it. It’s looking out of you lol
downcow wrote: » Unionist ignore the gaa
FrancieBrady wrote: » The answer to the question seems to be Unionists have no problem with the march. What you are not grasping is that people do have problems with provocative marches. According to the Parades Commission, there hasn't been a complaint about Killeen.
Junkyard Tom wrote: » The GAA isn't trying to march up your street honouring killers who murdered your neighbours. Your desperation in attempting to draw equivalence between provocative Unionist parading and an amateur sports association is pitiful.
downcow wrote: » Junkyard. You see everything only through your own eyes. In my community the gaa organise wolf tonnes concerts etc which take over the centre of town for a day and night. Much more aggressive and offensive than band parades (imho)
downcow wrote: » I have just been watching a sf councillor standing in the bogside saying that she wanted to commend the young people who built the bonfire as they done everything that was asked of them. Pity no one thought it would be a good idea to ask them to take the ni football flag off the top. Funny I’ve never sawseen a roi football flag on a loyalist bonfire. No doubt Francie is headed straight for google to prove me wrong. But I think he’ll struggle
steddyeddy wrote: » Could you provide a few links? Also what's the problem? You state you have no problem with murderers in organisations.
