Cilldara_2000 wrote: » Motions from clubs can only change the rules. Which rule do you suggest should be amended to stop the funding imbalance?
rebel girl 15 wrote: » To all those concerned and posting about “financial doping” Can I ask - are you actually a member of the GAA, as in a member of a club? Instead of beating your drum in here which you are more than welcome to do, I’d like to know what you are going to do about it? There are many posters seem to be hugely passionate and outraged about this issue, so what are you going to do? Are you going to bring a motion through your club about it?
ToBeFrank123 wrote: » You know full well GAA HQ have their fingers in their ears. Horan has said he sees nothing wrong with the current funding model. How on earth can you persuade someone like that, particularly a Dub?
ToBeFrank123 wrote: » Intercounty championship attendances would say otherwise, Dublin9male.
kilns wrote: » The funding imbalance has stopped to be fair, other motions would have to be brought forward if people want
gormdubhgorm wrote: » Not true - Mayo thinking of onehttp://www.mayonews.ie/sports/33284-clubs-critical-of-inequality-of-funding-to-dublin-gaaArdnaree delegate Johnny O’Malley then raised the idea of a motion for the 2020 GAA Congress tackling the ‘inequality of funding’ going towards Dublin
rebel girl 15 wrote: » So you are a member of the GAA? If there is this so called appetite for change as many on here claim, then that excuse is pathetic - “they are just bitter”. It can’t be claimed that there is outrage over this and then excuses trotted out - oh it won’t work. How do you know it won’t? Have you networked with other county delegates? There is a quote attributed to Margaret Mead that a lot of ye on here need to find if that’s the attitude others are taking. I know it from personal experience it doesn’t take many people - took just two of us to enact huge change in a province when I was living here, once that started it lit the fire of change. Soapbox away all you want on here - I completely respect anyone who will debate issues and then take action on their views, but you’ve lost my respect with that post - passing the buck saying the reform needs to come from top down. Maybe it does, but appetite for change at the top comes from the grassroots, not the other way around
Cilldara_2000 wrote: » Eh? I said "motions from clubs can only change the rules". I see nothing in your link suggesting otherwise. So, yes true. In any case, I guarantee you that this "idea of a motion" will go no further. It will be shot down because the powers that be will rule it out of order and say that funding has no place in the Official Guide.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » Of course you can lobby other like minded county boards, and if there is enough of support for it will pass. The GAA may have problems but they are an extremely democratic organisation probably too democratic at times. Surely from the way you are talking it should be the vast majority of delegates v Dublin?
bruschi wrote: » How has the funding imbalance stopped?
Cilldara_2000 wrote: » Democracy me hole tbf. Club members and county board delegates have no idea which way their county's congress delegates vote. There's no accountability.https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/motion-to-provide-transparent-voting-is-defeated-at-gaa-congress-1.3404707
kilns wrote: » per head of population for under 18s which Games Development funds are earmarked for, Dublin are middle of the pack in terms of funding for the last 3 years Certain journalists throw out the big round figure of 1,3m or whatever which is ridiculous without any context
Keano wrote: » In a hypothetical world, if every county got €2M every single year from HQ do people still think the best team with the best players wouldn't still win the All Ireland?
bruschi wrote: » What are the stats published on this? What about per registered player? Considering Dublin dont have anywhere near 100% participation per population, why does this figure get covered by thousands of kids who have no bearing on the work being done? it also has not stopped the imbalance.
kilns wrote: » The clue is in the title, why bother trying to promote the games and go into schools etc if you are only promoting to those who are converted and registered playing in clubs. GDO are not there to spread the word on the games and attract new kids (as many as possible)?
bruschi wrote: » less then 20% of under 18s in Dublin play GAA, but yet you think the best way of measuring the money spent is to include the 80%+ who arent registered with a club, the club who spends the money on the GDO.
ArielAtom wrote: » Do all the posters on here ranting about GDO’s actually know what they do??? Do posters realise that Dublin’s funding has been cut? Are any posters willing to come up with a solution or continue to whinge on an Internet forum?
ToBeFrank123 wrote: » To be honest rebel, the GAA is so screwed up at the moment, and Dublin financial doping is just one issue among many, that one motion wouldn't help. And then as soon as a motion is brought to HQ or publicised, you will get the usual, "ah they are just bitter", etc. Really the reform needs to come from the top down.
ClanofLams wrote: » Not trying to be smart but this is a really simplistic way of looking at it. Of course the best team would still win the All Ireland. How have they become the best team though? Is having a massive amount of funding which allowed for huge coaching and development resources to be poured into the county fifteen to twenty years ago a factor? A huge financial disparity which resulted in such resources being poured into one county is a serious issue.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » This is turning into a pure Irish thread - Give out - but not through the right channels - because there is no point nothing will change Rinse and repeat... Barstool stuff. It is the same argument people use for not voting in elections - the government do nuttin' - they only robbin' us.
StupidLikeAFox wrote: » 1. Yes 2. Looked into this. Came across an article where they had a drop of 165k in 2017. The same article mentions they had commercial revenue €1.46m - I think they will survive. 3. The thread title is Dominance of Dublin GAA but I'll bite anyway. I think the first step is to admit that there is an imbalance in the advantages that Dublin have. Some of these are natural and unavoidable (population, location of players, revenue generating abilities), some are manufactured and could be addressed (disparity in funding, Croke park as a de-facto home venue etc). I then think GAA should focus on mitigating some of those advantages to level the playing field. "Project Dublin" has been hugely successful - but it has created a hugely one-sided championship so I think its time to focus on bringing other counties up to that standard. I don't think thats unreasonable, I don't think its anti-Dublin to want a level playing field and I don't see why Dublin people wouldn't want the same to be honest.
Keano wrote: » It was very simplistic alright but money isn't the reason behind everything. As a Clare man, who watched Kilkenny dominate hurling for a decade they didn't have bags of cash but still walked all over teams - they had the best players. I just believe this Dublin team have the best players, their time in the doldrums will come again.
