Thecageyone wrote: » Have a look at the Aspire Cleito, or the Cleito 120. The original Cleito is out years, but it's still easy enough to get coils for and I still think it remains one of the better sub ohm tanks ever made. It's simple to use, easy to get on with, has good flavour. I still have 2 original Celito here and a 120, I use rba decks in them but I like that I can still get stock coils for them if I ever want. The original coils were 0.2 and 0.4 ohm, from what I remember I preferred the 0.4 ohm coils, and they are closer to what you want. I would recommend seeking out a Cleito on sale somewhere and get a pack of the 0.4 ohm coils, they'll last you ages.
shivermetimber wrote: » Thanks. Have been doing some reading up and it seems that my ignorance has had me using a sub ohm set up for no real reason (maybe I got roped in years ago when sub ohm took off) i.e I'm keeping the wattage low for the ohm used, using 50/50 juice with no flavour, airflow wide open and vaping dtl instead of mtl (didn't even know this difference was key to things). If I don't care about clouds and only care about battery life and juice refill / expense then it seems I should be using a higher ohm mtl set up instead as this will use less battery and less juice but then again, I seem to like a dtl draw and not sure if going to a tighter draw will be appealing. Maybe I should just get into using a rta deck and building my own, that way I don't have to worry about coil availability? Not sure at all now :pac:
shivermetimber wrote: » Thanks guys. Someone told me recently that building is super easy now but was still a bit wary. Have been looking at reviews for the Innokin Ares MTL RTA and only real negative comments seem to be about wide air holes so actually might work for me as I'm not used to super tight draw most mtl folks are looking for. Comes with lots of bits n bobs to get going aswell. Thoughts? Another thing it seems I need to consider is the change in strength going from what I have to say the mtl rta although given I use my current set up at really low watts and nic level should I just stick with going for 2-3mg in the rta or up it to around 6 or more?
shivermetimber wrote: » Thanks guys. Had a root around and found the rda deck that came with the Subtank mini. It had a premade 0.5 coil and cotton with it so put it together and its fine. Bit fiddly but easy enough and from what I can see making up the coils shouldn't be too much bother, especially with the calculator above (thanks!) and a few more tools. I might be a bit reluctant now to swap it out for the Ares as it's got a much smaller tank. Does it take a bubble glass or any other options to extend or am I better of sticking with what I have now? Say if I do want to up my ohms to cut down on juice use and less cloud and aim for around 1ohm it seems I'll need 28 gauge wire @ 3mm diameter for 4-5 wraps. Sound about right?
youdipstick wrote: » here are 2 videos showing 2 different rba's for the subtank mini... they also show 2 different ways of coiling,micro & spaced coils... they also show different tools that can be used... thinner wire & more wraps gives you a higher resistance... thicker wire & less wraps gives you a lower resistance... personally,I prefer spaced wraps because they don't give you hot legs,easier to dry burn it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPnWGpLvhokhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9io9tbrEro These builds will bring back some good or bad memories ...LOL
shivermetimber wrote: » Yeah, I've got the deck in the first video and worked it on the mod so it wasn't too bad. Looks like I'd fit 7 wraps in there at 3mm without issues. Will get some 26 and 28 kanthal and experiment a little bit to see whats going on. I'll probably end up getting back into flavoured for a while too since I'm saving money on coils.
Thecageyone wrote: » I couldn't vape without flavor, it's as important to me now as the nic hit. Even try some simple single fruit flavoring, apple works really well as a solo.
youdipstick wrote: » The past month I've been using liquid from EuroGiant,it's like a pound shop,the Strawberry,the Raspberry & the Apple at 6mg & 18mg are great flavours,only €1.50 for a 10ml bottle,I also tried their 50ml shortfill for a fiver,the flavour was Strawberry/Kiwi & Lime,fantastic flavour,I added 9mg nic to it & used it in a Smoant Pasito pod set-up with a sub ohm RBA deck,what a great pod system for a restricted DTL. I know the new Artery Pal 2 Pro is out at the end of the month but I couldn't resist buying the predecessor https://www.ecigone.co.uk/pod-kits/artery-pal-aio-ii-kit-1000mah-tony-b-project-1750537255 for £18.99 & you also get 20% off that price,I always use DPD Express €3.85 https://www.dpdparcelwizard.ie/HomePage#/
shivermetimber wrote: » So it seems the subtank mini deck I have is too small for 7 spaced wraps. 5 is max really. Got some Kanthal A 28 (shop didn't have 26) and did up a 5 wrap coil 2.5mm for 1ohm but there is definitely less flavour with the juice I got compared to the kit 0.5 that was in the deck. Its there but not as nice. Maybe as its 70/30 its more geared towards sub ohm or maybe my coil or wicking is ****e? Edit: Decided to drop it and go with some ss316l I also got. 26g, 7 tight wraps, 3mm ish. Made sure it was all firing ok. Came out at 0.55ohm. Also paid more attention to wick, not much resistance when fed through and cut a bit shorter then last time (just above outer ring) so wasn't rammed in there but enough to reach and cover holes. Much nicer flavour from the get go with 70/30 dead rabbit lime kiwi, dtl wide open. Clean and the sweetness and hint of cool is back again. Still keeping the watts real low at start though at around 14w.
Thecageyone wrote: » Wicking is so important, too loose or too tight will affect things, too loose and you can get popping/spitback, too tight you can get dry hits and muted flavour. You just get the hang of it after a few re-wicks, you'll know what works best for you. For any kind of sub ohm vaping I wouldn't go below 30w though, 14 is very low, that's MTL territory.
youdipstick wrote: » The past month I've been using liquid from EuroGiant,it's like a pound shop,
Thecageyone wrote: » I'll have a look into that later as cheapo juice for the pods sounds good to me, I only need basic flavor in those on the go. Atm I'm adding extra nic to my regular DIY liquids for the pods but my juice is often 80+ VG - works fine in the Caliburn but I think more like 70/30 will give a better hit. Cheers.
corkie wrote: » EuroGiant(Original) and Dealz(88vape) stock cheap ejuice! Thanks for that would have never thought of trying them shops. Popped into EuroGiant today and picked up 3 bottles to try out. 'Lemon Sorbet' which I currently vaping, it is okay. Haven't tried that flavor before. A 'Cola' + 'Italian Cappuccino' Already have an opened coffee and cola from another brand, so it will be awhile before checking them. EuroGiant also do a four pack of Nic Shots for a €5, didn't check the individual price. As I am still using 18mg(/20mg salts) ejuice, short-fills and Nic shots won't cut it for me. Maybe in future when I reduce my dependency on nicotine.I'm not affiliated with any store or review site.
shivermetimber wrote: » And how do these cheaper liquids compare to the more expensive ones? I've had some nasty ass cheap liquids in the past that just taste like chemicals whereas there's not a hint of anything like that with the DRS liquid I got the other day but it's pricey!
Thecageyone wrote: » I wouldn't use those liquids in sub tanks,
corkie wrote: » Don't have any tanks, just a pockex and caliburn. Tried the 'Lemon Sorbet' in the pockex, because If there crap ejuice, was not committing a caliburn pod to the juice and continued after taste since ideally your can't (or not suppose to) use them below minimum fill line. Even with that said I accidentally drained a pod the other day, and got a dry hit. Pod still fine (I think). That 'Lemon Sorbet' is strong taste and good as a palette cleanser. Because other vapes in the caliburn tasted better after vaping it. <<< Well known already!?