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Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

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The seat map for the B767-200 being leased by EI next year are available on the Aer Lingus website, the seating is 2,3,2 in economy (As was suspected) and 2,2,2 in business

There are 189 economy seats and 12 Business seats making a total of the reported 201 seats.

Anyone know whether the B767 will be repainted, partially or entirely, in the EI colours for the 6 months that its leased for?

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adam88

Locker10a wrote: »

Doubt they’ll change it now, but maybe review it after a lot of pressure when it comes to the A321XLR.
I can see loads of economy pax going through the curtain into business class too when the carts are blocking the aisle during service, disturbing business class passengers.

Having only ever flown business class once I’d be outraged if the commoners walked through never mind used my toilet lol

Nijmegen

adam88 wrote: »

Having only ever flown business class once I’d be outraged if the commoners walked through never mind used my toilet lol

Part of the premium product you're paying for is a less disturbed cabin. Particularly on the sector coming home a lot of business class passengers skip the meal entirely and try to get some kip. Having folks moving through from economy is breaking with the proposition of what you paid for.

goingnowhere

The 321 has 1 more toilet over the 757

While placing them all together at the back is not ideal it is the more efficient from a queuing point of view

alancostello

goingnowhere wrote: »

The 321 has 1 more toilet over the 757

While placing them all together at the back is not ideal it is the more efficient from a queuing point of view

No it doesn’t, both have 4. 757 has one behind the cockpit, 2 on the left side at 3L and 1 on the right side at 3R.

lufties

I've never flown long haul with EI, but I fly short haul regular. Living in Leeds I fly home to Ireland on the ATR. I will always choose them over FR. Feeling welcomed makes a huge difference psychologically, especially returning home. The flight times are also quite good.

kevinandrew

So, for the sake of comparison, here's the TAP A321LR review;

https://onemileatatime.com/tap-a321lr-business-class-review/

It seems Aer Lingus definitely has the edge here. Interesting to note they also didn't have a pre-departure drink service due to the boarding process. Also, while the cabin is near identical, the overall product at Aer Lingus seems superior which is nice to see.

joeysoap

kevinandrew wrote: »

So, for the sake of comparison, here's the TAP A321LR review;

https://onemileatatime.com/tap-a321lr-business-class-review/

It seems Aer Lingus definitely has the edge here. Interesting to note they also didn't have a pre-departure drink service due to the boarding process. Also, while the cabin is near identical, the overall product at Aer Lingus seems superior which is nice to see.

You clear US immigration in Oporto ?

L1011

joeysoap wrote: »

You clear US immigration in Oporto ?

No. The "cleared immigration" is presumably the Schegen exit control,.

Jack1985

kevinandrew wrote: »

So, for the sake of comparison, here's the TAP A321LR review;

https://onemileatatime.com/tap-a321lr-business-class-review/

It seems Aer Lingus definitely has the edge here. Interesting to note they also didn't have a pre-departure drink service due to the boarding process. Also, while the cabin is near identical, the overall product at Aer Lingus seems superior which is nice to see.

Notice how the reviewer says “not sure if due to laziness..” in regard to welcome drinks and goes on to mention a short taxi, seriously ?

charlie.hotel

EI156 showing up as operated by A321LR from 1 October but seat map still shows an A320 layout. Any ideas of what aircraft will actually operate this route?

goingnowhere

I thought the plan was the 154 to be the NEO

So rows 1-7 are blocked off, for the 156 on Oct 1st, it is a A321 NEO seat map

Jamie2k9

Its both, they added the second when they advanced to 1 Oct.

Locker10a

I was just booking flights there and noticed something a bit odd, EI regional flights are now showing as Departing Dublin T1 in the booking engine, mainline flights show as T2, this could cause a bit of confusion?! Also noticed some flights show up as "ATR72" and some as "ATR PRESSURISED NARROWBODY TURBO" which I thought to be an odd note to add into the flight information when booking.

Tenger

So that 2 DUB-LHR-DUB rotations from Oct 1st? Next A321LR is going to SNN to operate SNN-BOS.

Im guessing LRC will be delivered late Sept so that they have one for LHR and one to cover BDL and LHR each day ex DUB?

sherology

Norwegian is pulling out of Ireland-US flights in 6-weeks, so EI will have a little bump in their operations as they enter winter with some reduced competition.

I wonder will the saver fare disappear - being brought in to address Norwegian specifically?

Locker10a

sherology wrote: »

Norwegian is pulling out of Ireland-US flights in 6-weeks, so EI will have a little bump in their operations as they enter winter with some reduced competition.

I wonder will the saver fare disappear - being brought in to address Norwegian specifically?

While im sure EI will be happy to have a little less competition on their home market, they'll probably be more pleased about having more gate space back in T2. I don't feel EI ever struggled on their TA routes even with Norwegian on the scene, they seem to fill up their flights in the summer no problem offering connections. Even in winter I think EI flights were going out with better loads than Norwegian. A lot of Norwegian passengers were very low yielding and would have only flown because they got fares that were below a certain price point. That price point wasn't profitable for a transatlantic operation and so most other serious long haul airlines are unlikely to go after that share of the market.

sherology

Locker10a wrote: »

While im sure EI will be happy to have a little less competition on their home market, they'll probably be more pleased about having more gate space back in T2. I don't feel EI ever struggled on their TA routes even with Norwegian on the scene, they seem to fill up their flights in the summer no problem offering connections. Even in winter I think EI flights were going out with better loads than Norwegian. A lot of Norwegian passengers were very low yielding and would have only flown because they got fares that were below a certain price point. That price point wasn't profitable for a transatlantic operation and so most other serious long haul airlines are unlikely to go after that share of the market.

Don't disagree... ULCCs tend to make a market all of their own, but EI may remove their saver fares, if for no other reason than simplification of cabin setup. In theory, there is no headphones or blankets with saver... but in practice there always have been both on the seats with EI. (May have been just luck of the draw as I end up in the front of economy cabin always).

The only actual difference is no choice on seat selection at any time unless you pay extra, or bags... I don't do bags, but do prefer to pick a seat online when check-in opens from what's available/left in the cabin.

In essence... There's little difference and it was developed to counter Norwegian.

Trust the crews will be absorbed pretty quickly into an expanded EI.

Stephen Strange

I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few had already jumped ship. SWF has been operated by Evelop for quite a while now.

joeysoap

Admittedly a few months now, but I noticed a Norwegian 737 Max at Dublin is it still there?

HTCOne

joeysoap wrote: »

Admittedly a few months now, but I noticed a Norwegian 737 Max at Dublin is it still there?

There’s 2 of them mothballed on the West Apron

Tenger

And they will be there for quite a while, as IAA grounding doesn’t allow ferry flights (I believe?)

vicwatson

EI-EDY in BOS had a new engine flown to it yesterday from DUB. Is it Often an engine goes?

Captain_Crash

vicwatson wrote: »

EI-EDY in BOS had a new engine flown to it yesterday from DUB. Is it Often an engine goes?

It happens from time to time, what’s actually more likely is that flying in a new engine and changing it is quicker than fixing it down route. The goal is to have the plane back in the air as soon as possible and an engine change while a pain in the hole is often quicker and easier that diagnosing the fixing the problem!

Old engine will fly back to Dublin and be fixed and dangled on the wing of the next frame that needs a change!

Karl8415

Out of curiosity in the case of this engine change in Boston would EI send over their own engineering team to carry out the change or would it be put into a hanger for on-site team to do it and would anyone know roughly speaking how long would it take to do the job

GM228

Tenger wrote: »

And they will be there for quite a while, as IAA grounding doesn’t allow ferry flights (I believe?)

Is there are current IAA AD in place?

I understood the original one was temporary and superseded by the EASA one currently in force as amended which allows for ferry flights - I certainly can't find an in force IAA AD?

Bussywussy

EI flew over engineers to replace engine,the old engine will be shipped off to GE

SeeMoreBut

EI286 returning to Dub after turning back over Liverpool and flying at 10,000

GM228

SeeMoreBut wrote: »

EI286 returning to Dub after turning back over Liverpool and flying at 10,000

According to FR24 it landed at the Airways Ind Est and is taxiing across the M1/M50 slip road, hopefully just a glitch! At least the Air part is right

Van.Bosch

GM228 wrote: »

According to FR24 it landed at the Airways Ind Est and is taxiing across the M1/M50 slip road, hopefully just a glitch! At least the Air part is right

I notice FR24 routinely have the Avro’s showing a bit off of their location.

Bussywussy

SeeMoreBut wrote: »

EI286 returning to Dub after turning back over Liverpool and flying at 10,000

Citytech,it's at least once a week there's an air turn back or return to stand with them