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The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

carsfan

Any body with either of these able to advise on what the real world economy is of these?
There is not much between them in purchase price.
The gtd 625 euro more.
I do 25000km a year and really would prefer the gti but my head tells me the gtd is what I should be looking at.
I've only driven the gti and found it very entertaining.
Dealer says resale is the same for both of them. There is only 90 euro difference in road tax and insurance the same so fuel costs are the main financial difference.

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bazz26

DaveyDave

what the hell! wrote: »

Could you throw up a pic or two of the Leon?

Don't remember where I saw them, came up as a suggested article on Google. If you search you'll probably see them. Fairly recent if I remember. Not sure if they're 100% genuine but from what I remember the interior design was different Vs the Golf.

what the hell!

DaveyDave wrote: »

Doesn't look too bad, front looks a bit long on the side profile.

Nice wheels too. Interior images look alright, the images of the Leon interior are white different to what we've seen with the Golf.

Could you throw up a pic or two of the Leon?

ShadowHearth

theintern wrote: »

From the Autostadt group on Facebook. Clearest images of the Mk8 yet.

It's a golf all right. Don't really know of I like it or not. The basic model will look a bit sad.

Toyotafanboi

210k kms, no age limit.

Ron Burgundy II

What is the recommended mileage/time for a timing belt replacement?

Note, my car is the 1.4tsi variant of the Mk7

bazz26

MidMan25 wrote: »

Side profile looks a bit off!

Looks like they just grafted the Mk8 front and rear to the existing Mk7 side profile in that rendering.

DaveyDave

Doesn't look too bad, front looks a bit long on the side profile.

Nice wheels too. Interior images look alright, the images of the Leon interior are white different to what we've seen with the Golf.

MidMan25

Side profile looks a bit off!

theintern

From the Autostadt group on Facebook. Clearest images of the Mk8 yet.

Toyotafanboi

Yeah, there is a control shroud on the coolant pump, there's also 2x electronic pumps that need to be bled through a tester. The same applies to the 1.6 engine and lower power 2.0's too though.

I'm away from VW a while now but we still offered them at €449 anyway, there's not much money in them at dealer level at that price but it's a bit of a loss leader, you might gain a customer with them or sell a few extras or whatever.

hooch-85

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

They are €449 at a main dealer including the water pump but not the aux belt. You get 12 months roadside assist with the the job too which has some kind of value.

The OEM belts on those are a mix of Gates, Contitect and Dayco depending on the production date.

I was told by a VW tech that the GTD has a regulated water pump which are more expensive and also requires more time as the system has to be vacuum filled then bled via diagnostics and that some dealers charge €750 for this. In that case George's price of €420 would be reasonable.

Toyotafanboi

hooch-85 wrote: »

Thanks George, and to the other posters above, are Gates the OEM manufacturer do you know?

€400 at the dealers seems very cheap, if that was available it would be a no brainer as they say but I would equally be happy to pay that to an independent as long as decent parts were used.

They are €449 at a main dealer including the water pump but not the aux belt. You get 12 months roadside assist with the the job too which has some kind of value.

The OEM belts on those are a mix of Gates, Contitect and Dayco depending on the production date.

drunkmonkey

Phone rooted, carstream installed, YouTube working on latest Android auto, have to say Nobbys exhaust notes sound great through the speakers...

theintern

Since Android Auto was mentioned, it reminded me. Mine stopped working in my car (16 GTI), it would flash up "USB: device not supported". I assumed there was something wrong with the USB port or cable, but my girlfriends phone worked fine.

I had to disable USB debugging under Developer Options to get it going again. No idea why it suddenly stopped working (literally as I was driving) but just in case it comes up for someone else.

hooch-85

George Dalton wrote: »

I have heard all sorts of prices being quoted by main dealers, from crazy cheap as per the above poster to crazy expensive (€900) so shopping around is advised.

For comparison we are €420 all in for a Gates timing belt kit and alternator belt and a genuine VW water pump. So that will give you something to go on.

Thanks George, and to the other posters above, are Gates the OEM manufacturer do you know?

€400 at the dealers seems very cheap, if that was available it would be a no brainer as they say but I would equally be happy to pay that to an independent as long as decent parts were used.

drunkmonkey

Anyone got a rooted phone did you try carstream on the new software? Might try and get it running tomorrow..

George Dalton

R.O.R wrote: »

A black 152 GTi just went past me on the road.

I'm in Fuengirola!

We had a situation a few years ago where we sold a Scirocco to a guy and a few weeks later the guards rang him up asking him questions about the car and its location etc. He said the car is sitting on my driveway, why do you ask. The guard said we are asking because we have reports of an identical car driving around Spain with the same reg number on it.

So the customer rang us in a panic and we had to contact the guards and show that the car we had sold was legit (which it was as it had been bought from one of your competitors) and that all was in order. I wonder was something similar going on with that GTI you saw.

DaveyDave

Good Shout on that Android Auto update, seems a bit snappier and more responsive now.

kooga

R.O.R wrote: »

A black 152 GTi just went past me on the road.

I'm in Fuengirola!

My wheels in Spain

R.O.R

A black 152 GTi just went past me on the road.

I'm in Fuengirola!

George Dalton

hooch-85 wrote: »

Has anyone replaced a timing belt and water pump on a GTD at the main dealers lately? My car will be due one early next year, but I may go with using a good independent and use genuine parts.

I have heard all sorts of prices being quoted by main dealers, from crazy cheap as per the above poster to crazy expensive (€900) so shopping around is advised.

For comparison we are €420 all in for a Gates timing belt kit and alternator belt and a genuine VW water pump. So that will give you something to go on.

MidMan25

fletch wrote: »

FYI, the new Android Auto is available. I haven't had much time to play around with it yet but it looks a lot nicer

The new Apple Carplay is much improved too. I have it because i'm running the beta of the iOS updated due for release in Sept.

JoeA3

Same. Had it done on an A4 late last year in Audi main dealers for around €400. I expect it would be a similar ballpark price for a GTD. The main dealers usually have a fixed price deal on service items like that.

Technique

hooch-85 wrote: »

Has anyone replaced a timing belt and water pump on a GTD at the main dealers lately? My car will be due one early next year, but I may go with using a good independent and use genuine parts.

Got timing belt and water pump done on my wife's diesel A4 two years ago at our local VW/Audi garage for around €400 if I remember correctly.

We would have gone to a local indy if it was going to be too expensive at the dealer, but for that price it was a no-brainer.

fletch

FYI, the new Android Auto is available. I haven't had much time to play around with it yet but it looks a lot nicer

hooch-85

Has anyone replaced a timing belt and water pump on a GTD at the main dealers lately? My car will be due one early next year, but I may go with using a good independent and use genuine parts.

MidMan25

DaveyDave wrote: »

Forget LED headlights, it doesn't even have dual climate. Those old school climate controls look crap! But it has keyless! Surely you'd get a year old GTI PP for €38k?

What are they smoking when speccing these things?

The standard climate controls are fine. No LED headlights is unforgivable though, they look much better and work much better.

ShadowHearth

fletch wrote: »

Interestingly, the upgraded wheels push the Polo into the next tax band (so tax goes up from €280 to €390 a year) due to WLTP. That was a fun conversation with VW when I went to tax my Polo (as I had ordered before the impact of WLTP was known) :eek: As a result it also pushes the price up by €1,500, and not by the €520 that the configurator still indicates

They subsequently updated their Pricing guides as a result of our "talks" (see above), but I notice they've now removed the separate entry for the GTI with Brescia's in the latest product guide and the wheels aren't listed as an option although are still on the configurator.

Holy **** lol. So buy it on standard wheels, then just order aftermarket wheels or just buy new upgraded wheels separately. Car stays in lower tax bracket and will cost you less.
I am dreading to see this whole wltp kick off properly next year. It will be mad.
Something tells me to get finger out and grab something 1-3 year old in hot hatch category before next year. Prices of new cars will be idiotic and older pre wltp cars will go up in price and be more attractive.
We are going in to some really big **** storm next year.

DaveyDave

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I noticed on donedeal, that good few VW dealerships got Polo gti in their showrooms. Look nice, but the prices... They got white one with upgraded wheels and still with normal crapy lights - 37k++ !!!
Second hand, 1-3 year old GTis and RS look like bargains compared to that! How could they get it so wrong.

Forget LED headlights, it doesn't even have dual climate. Those old school climate controls look crap! But it has keyless! Surely you'd get a year old GTI PP for €38k?

What are they smoking when speccing these things?