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Poor_old_gill

DDC1990 wrote: »

Minors struggling a bit at HT.
7 points to 5 down. Big wind however.

Really poor decision making so far but a big 30mins to go.

The inside line love to take a shot- even when there are lads in better positions.

Kicked it away

DDC1990

Minors struggling a bit at HT.
7 points to 5 down. Big wind however.

Really poor decision making so far but a big 30mins to go.

Bass Reeves

Team announced
Shane Ryan
Jason Foley
Tadgh Morley
Tom O'Sullivan
Paul Murphy
Gavin Crowley
Shane Enright
David Moran
Adrian Spillane
Gavin White
Sean O'Shea
Stephen O'Brien
David Clifford
Paul Geaney
Killian Spillane

cms88

conor05 wrote: »

Agreed.

I have no doubt that a fully complemented South Kerry senior team would beat Ballyheigue at present.

I am not knocking Ballyheigue they are doing great work now at underage but it must be 4 or 5 years since they last won a SHC match.

I think the last time Ballyheigure won a championship game was 2011? Could be wrong on that.

conor05

cms88 wrote: »

The North Kerry clubs imo are left away with too much. No worrys about being
relegated etc

I know some of them are ver yagainest the idea of Tralee Parnells as they claim they're losing out on players. Players they had nothing to do with developing

Agreed.

I have no doubt that a fully complemented South Kerry senior team would beat Ballyheigue at present.

I am not knocking Ballyheigue they are doing great work now at underage but it must be 4 or 5 years since they last won a SHC match.

cms88

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

The North Kerry clubs wouldnt allow that, they would be looking for everyone to have the rules

Thats the biggest reason there is no North Kerry teams in the semi finals of the intermediate championship, the teams have lost players to the seniors

The North Kerry clubs imo are left away with too much. No worrys about being
relegated etc

I know some of them are ver yagainest the idea of Tralee Parnells as they claim they're losing out on players. Players they had nothing to do with developing

conor05

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

The North Kerry clubs wouldnt allow that, they would be looking for everyone to have the rules

Thats the biggest reason there is no North Kerry teams in the semi finals of the intermediate championship, the teams have lost players to the seniors

To promote adult hurling outside of North Kerry that would have to be looked at.

I understand your point about the North Kerry clubs losing players but they still get to enter two teams from one club into both championships at the start of the year.

Kenmare, Dr Crokes, Tralee hurling etc all exist in football areas and would not have the player base of North Kerry teams who are all based in a hurling stronghold radius.

I think if South Kerry entered a team and still could play with their own clubs in Intermediate championship it could benefit the club hurling scene as a whole.

A trial run would be worthwhile

Kerrydude1981

cms88 wrote: »

But if they played as South Kerry in the seinor they would surely still be able to play in the Intermediate the same as in football

The North Kerry clubs wouldnt allow that, they would be looking for everyone to have the rules

Thats the biggest reason there is no North Kerry teams in the semi finals of the intermediate championship, the teams have lost players to the seniors

cms88

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

I think the biggest thing that is holding it back is that the South Kerry clubs would rather win an intermediate rather then have a right crack off the senior
And then there is that rule if a player plays in the senior championship then he cant play in the intermediate

No North Kerry team in the intermediate championship semi finals this year

But if they played as South Kerry in the seinor they would surely still be able to play in the Intermediate the same as in football

conor05

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

I think the biggest thing that is holding it back is that the South Kerry clubs would rather win an intermediate rather then have a right crack off the senior
And then there is that rule if a player plays in the senior championship then he cant play in the intermediate

No North Kerry team in the intermediate championship semi finals this year

I think Kilgarvan could win intermediate.

Lixnaw or Kilmoyley for the senior.

Very hard to see Lixnaw beaten if Shane Conway continues his scoring prowess

Kerrydude1981

cms88 wrote: »

I can never understand why Kenmare and Kilgarvin don't enter as South Kerry and they can then play in the intermediate themswlves

I think the biggest thing that is holding it back is that the South Kerry clubs would rather win an intermediate rather then have a right crack off the senior
And then there is that rule if a player plays in the senior championship then he cant play in the intermediate

No North Kerry team in the intermediate championship semi finals this year

Bass Reeves

keane2097 wrote: »

I think failing to get to the final as it stands now would be a huge disappointment. Getting to the final would confirm a great season but I think a loss at this stage to a Tyrone team I don't think much of would spoil it a fair bit.

I think the preformance is as important next weekend as is the result. I would not consider it overly negative if we fail to make the final. We need a certain amount of things to go right. At present ourselves and Dunlin are the only teams that have not lost a game. Admittedly we have drawn one. Consider we were missing Moran for the Donegal game and Jack Barry for most of the championship. Peter Crowley's injury as well was a loss. But we have coped well with these issues. Tyrone will be fresher after resting a lot of players last week.mit will be all to playing for but I consider it a lot better season than the last two unless we fall flat on our faces Sunday

conor05

cms88 wrote: »

I can never understand why Kenmare and Kilgarvin don't enter as South Kerry and they can then play in the intermediate themswlves

I think the long term plan is to have South Kerry team and a combined Dr Crokes/ Tralee Parnells team.

That would make a 10 team Kerry SHC

cms88

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

South Kerry would have a very competitive senior hurling team if they entered the Senior hurling championship, there is at least 6 or 7 players that would make any of the North Kerry clubs

I can never understand why Kenmare and Kilgarvin don't enter as South Kerry and they can then play in the intermediate themswlves

conor05

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

South Kerry would have a very competitive senior hurling team if they entered the Senior hurling championship, there is at least 6 or 7 players that would make any of the North Kerry clubs

To be fair they have one of the best under 21 prospects in the county too. Donal o Sullivan from Kilgarvan.

Himself, Barry Mahony and Shane Conway are the 3 best young hurlers in the county.

Buddy97mm

davegilly wrote:

There was absolutely no atmosphere in Croker that day, the game never really took off, for me anyway. Croke Park really ruins atmospheres at games now, especially when they aren't knockout and the place is only half full.

100% agree on this. A good game, but played at about 70/80% of true championship intensity, plus the fact that the result (win or lose) was not absolute, with both teams knowing the result of the next game would determine progression (although in hindsight Donegal must regret they didnt win).

davegilly

dobman88 wrote: »

Everyone I've spoken to has said the Donegal game was one of the games of the season but it didn't feel like it in croke park, it just felt dead and like the game just ticked along.

I'm glad it wasn't just me!

There was absolutely no atmosphere in Croker that day, the game never really took off, for me anyway. Croke Park really ruins atmospheres at games now, especially when they aren't knockout and the place is only half full.

Id imagine the same game in Limerick or Salthill would have had a rocking atmosphere of the game played out the same. It's really come to the time where Croker should only be used for semi finals and finals and play everything else at provincial grounds. If the Super 8's have done anything, it's shown the great games and atmospheres at packed provincial grounds around the country.

Back to the task at hand - it will be some battle against Tyrone next Sunday. I will be going there more in hope than expectation to be honest. I have no doubt Kerry are a better footballing team but the experience and toughness of Tyrone will be tough to beat. Those Kerry lads will come off that pitch knowing they have been in a game and if they manage to win then it should stand in great stead for the final against Mayo!

keane2097

I think failing to get to the final as it stands now would be a huge disappointment. Getting to the final would confirm a great season but I think a loss at this stage to a Tyrone team I don't think much of would spoil it a fair bit.

dobman88

What are peoples thoughts on this season? A definite improvement on the last couple of years anyway. A league final appearance beaten by a very experienced and hungry Mayo side, beating Dublin in Tralee on the way. Getting out of that poxy super 8 group with the best performance I've seen in recent years against Mayo. Everyone I've spoken to has said the Donegal game was one of the games of the season but it didn't feel like it in croke park, it just felt dead and like the game just ticked along. The game in Navan was getting the job done and had a great atmosphere with a good travelling support in the 9,000 that were there.

I think no matter what happens against Tyrone, it's a few steps in the right direction and players have gained some massive experience this year. Unfortunately the Dublin juggernaut doesnt seem to be stopping any time soon so we will have to see where the next few years take us.

Kerrydude1981

cms88 wrote: »

Another Parnells man ob the subs also. Can only be a good thing if more South Kerry players start making these panels

South Kerry would have a very competitive senior hurling team if they entered the Senior hurling championship, there is at least 6 or 7 players that would make any of the North Kerry clubs

cms88

conor05 wrote: »

10 different clubs represented on the panel, add Ballyduff and Kilmoyley and that’s 12 clubs to pick from going forward.

Good signs for the future of Kerry hurling

The fact O' Connor was also in charge of the U20 can only be good. This year really showed the need to start looking outside of North Kerry for players

awaywithyou

Legion GAA should never again allow that tramp put on a Jersey again.. And I assume they looked after the stacks player medical expenses.. That legion lad is some disgrace... Clear intent to do what he did

conor05

cms88 wrote: »

Another Parnells man ob the subs also. Can only be a good thing if more South Kerry players start making these panels

10 different clubs represented on the panel, add Ballyduff and Kilmoyley and that’s 12 clubs to pick from going forward.

Good signs for the future of Kerry hurling

dobman88

Boom__Boom wrote: »

I think you got a bit of the wrong end of the stick there- Stephen Stack the current Legion manager was Austin Stacks manager previously.

4 games for this is pitiful - but pitiful is the standard for GAA in terms of handing out punishments.

That makes a lot more sense, ty. I didnt properly hear the man I was talking to yesterday and didnt want to get into the conversation cos the game was about to throw in.

Thanks for clarifying.

Boom__Boom

dobman88 wrote: »

Was talking to a fella at the game yesterday about this incident. He said the Legion number 9 was the Stacks manager previously and the stacks man on the receiving end is Ronan Shanahan. Can anyone shed any light on it. A fairly ferocious incident and only a 4 game ban for it.

https://twitter.com/KillarneyKnight/status/1156873637762359297?s=19

I think you got a bit of the wrong end of the stick there- Stephen Stack the current Legion manager was Austin Stacks manager previously.

4 games for this is pitiful - but pitiful is the standard for GAA in terms of handing out punishments.

Rows Grower

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

I've said what I want to say anyway. You can continue to use your imagination on my opinions if you wish.

You seem to post mainly about incidents like this instead of actually discussing football on this thread, which is interesting.

I abhor outright thuggery in any sport, different sports have different standards, but in all fairness that kind of attack wouldn't be allowed in any octagon, boxing ring or in any martial arts competition.

Do you have any empathy at all for the victim?

cms88

DDC1990 wrote: »

A Crokes man and Tralee Parnells man as well.

Another Parnells man ob the subs also. Can only be a good thing if more South Kerry players start making these panels

ciarriaithuaidh

Rows Grower wrote: »

You might think I'm on a high horse and that is your prerogative.

I have my facts straight, I saw what happened.

"He will most likely not play until 2020 IF he is reported".

He should be facing a trail in the Circuit Criminal Court for that cowardly assault and missing a few games of Gaelic football should be the least of his worries.

Anyone trying to minimise what happened in that clip would want to have a serious chat with themselves about whether they are involved in the right sport.

I've said what I want to say anyway. You can continue to use your imagination on my opinions if you wish.

You seem to post mainly about incidents like this instead of actually discussing football on this thread, which is interesting.

JFlah

keane2097 wrote: »

In case it needs clarification I was talking about gobdaws on the sideline pulling out their phones at the first hint of handbags so they can get a video to send to joe.ie

Edit: and the 'yerra' was meant to imply that it was tongue in cheek

Fair enough, I misinterpreted it. I missed the yerra.

keane2097

In case it needs clarification I was talking about gobdaws on the sideline pulling out their phones at the first hint of handbags so they can get a video to send to joe.ie

Edit: and the 'yerra' was meant to imply that it was tongue in cheek