notobtuse wrote: » https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/23/mass-shootings-tracker-analysis-us-gun-control-reddit
Sweetemotion wrote: » 15 mass shootings in Baltimore in 2015 and not one solved. :eek:
mad muffin wrote: » Hmmm. Hmmm indeed. Yes very… how do we put it?… So I showed you the statistics and still. Still ya just want to keep up the spin… You know when you keep spouting that kind of nonsense and ignore what’s happening in the African American communities. You get places like Baltimore.
Overheal wrote: » What is the point of such a post of not to stoke the fire and fan the flames of division?
alastair wrote: » That article makes no mention of the ethnicity of mass shooting perpetrators.
notobtuse wrote: » Yes, you are correct. But common sense dictates that since drive-by shootings and gang-related shootings disproportionately take people of color lives, and that these actions are usually cause by those of the same ethnic character, then it only goes to shows most are not committed by whites. Brain power, people… brain power!
Overheal wrote: » Except the data does not show that the perpetrator of the shootings are the same ethnicities as the victim. As just mentioned, the vast majority of gun homicides go unsolved - a perpetrator is never identified. I could as easily argue as you (both of us respectively without evidence) that most of these black Americans are killed by white supremacists wearing blackface.
Sweetemotion wrote: » You could but you know it's bull crap.
Overheal wrote: » Actually, we don’t know. Until we catch them, we will never know for sure. It’s only as much bullcrap as assuming only black people shoot black people.
notobtuse wrote: » WORD!
Sweetemotion wrote: » That's just being a silly bugger. Stats show that whites kill more whites than blacks and blacks kill more blacks than whites. What's bullcrap is what your suggestion and you know it.
Overheal wrote: » Indeed, it is bullcrap to claim that people are only murdered by perps of the same ethnicity.
Sweetemotion wrote: » That's just waffle, why would anyone think that?
notobtuse wrote: » Yes, you are correct. But common sense dictates that since drive-by shootings and gang-related shootings disproportionately take people of color lives, and that these actions are usually cause by those of the same ethnic character, then it only goes to show most are not committed by whites. Brain power, people… brain power!
Overheal wrote: » I think you two should meet:
Overheal wrote: » Among closed cases? Where are your figures? Far fewer than half of shooting cases get closed. We therefore have severely deficient data to support the generalization in bold. In most, a suspect is never even identified. edit: https://www.thetrace.org/2019/01/gun-murder-solve-rate-understaffed-police-data-analysis/
notobtuse wrote: » Usually In the way that most often happens. Forgive him, Father, for he knows not what he speaks of.
Manic Moran wrote: » A suspect may not be identified to the individual person, and the majority even if identified, may never be proven with enough evidence, but if the witnesses all say “suspect was a white male” or whatever, I think that’s a reasonable enough data point for these purposes.
notobtuse wrote: » Yes it was from Forbes... (take notice to the map, thank you very much). Perhaps best to do some homework before playing with the big boys.https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2019/04/15/mapping-san-franciscos-human-waste-challenge-132562-case-reports-since-2008/#667182305ea5 So a American business magazine is considered to have a right wing slant? Perhaps, but would that mean anti-business entities are left wing? Viva la socialism, eh?
Adam Andrzejewski (say: Angie-eff-ski) is the CEO & Founder of OpenTheBooks.com
notobtuse wrote: » Forgive him, Father, for he knows not what he speaks of.
mad muffin wrote: » From your own link.
According to New York’s figures, there were 295 murders in 2018. This yields a murder rate of 3.42 per 100,000 population in 2018. According to London figures, there were 128 murders in 2018 in the London Metropolitan Police boroughs of Greater London, i.e. everything except the City. The Daily Mail claimed a total number of murders in greater London as 134, and the Telegraph also repeated this figure. This figure of 134 includes one murder from the City of London. I cannot account for the discrepancy between the 128 and 133 figures for the Metropolitan Police. However, assuming the higher figure of 134 murders as correct, the murder rate for London for 2018 is 1.52 per 100,000 population.
alastair wrote: » That’s pretty disingenuous - trying to pass off a brief aberration as the norm.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » No I just have a deeper perception of the reality.
mad muffin wrote: » Who said it was the norm? I think you are the one being disingenuous.
Overheal wrote: » You have convinced me: we don’t need immigration laws because illegals don’t follow the law anyway
alastair wrote: » You did. And nope - it’s you alright.https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110838302&postcount=659
mad muffin wrote: » What exactly are you trying to point out?
mad muffin wrote: London for the first time has a higher murder rate than NYC.
