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US congresswoman states America should be "more fearful of white men"

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In a bizarre statement Ilhan Omar claims Americans should be more fearful of white men. These comment are totally incorrect seeming as the homicide rate committed by black men is soaring. Its frightening to see people gobble up her garbage.
I firmly believe she could play a major factor in getting Trump re-elected due to her radical views.

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Eric Cartman

mad muffin wrote: »

Likewise FDR turned back a ship full of Jews fleeing nazi Germany, because they thought that they could contain nazi spies.

Imagine that. A democratic president turned back a ship full of Jews fleeing nazi Germany. Most of them then went onto die in actual concentration camps.

The Democrats won’t tell you that though.

if you really look back at history , the 30s and 40s were a pretty bad time for jews in most of the world, one regime just took it much further than the others and so everyone opened their arms to the jews after the war and hoped everyone would forgive and forget that they too werent the fondest of them.

batgoat

mad muffin wrote: »

Likewise FDR turned back a ship full of Jews fleeing nazi Germany, because they thought that they could contain nazi spies.

Imagine that. A democratic president turned back a ship full of Jews fleeing nazi Germany. Most of them then went onto die in actual concentration camps.

The Democrats won’t tell you that though.

The treatment of Jews and unwillingness to take refugees is once again not forgotten at all.

mad muffin

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Democrats are the last people to talk about Concentration camps since they actually put people in Concentration camps. Tells what a biased media otherwise they would have been called out on that by now.

Likewise FDR turned back a ship full of Jews fleeing nazi Germany, because they thought that they could contain nazi spies.

Imagine that. A democratic president turned back a ship full of Jews fleeing nazi Germany. Most of them then went onto die in actual concentration camps.

The Democrats won’t tell you that though.

Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

And then you got sanders on cnn calling trump a racist for his comments on Baltimore. When he was making the same comment when he was running last time. Wow.

I’d put up a video…

Eric Cartman

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Democrats are the last people to talk about Concentration camps since they actually put people in Concentration camps. Tells what a biased media otherwise they would have been called out on that by now.

Japanese internment camps were not concentration camps, while semantically im sure the dictionary definition of concentration camps may fit but lets be realistic, when people use the prefix concentration it conjures images of an inescapable prison where you will be starved or gassed to death.

The Japanese internment camps were not this
the ICE detention centers are not this

JohnMc1

batgoat wrote: »

Okay so you're accepting one as concentration camps but not the other? Odd...

If Democrats want to claim these are Concentration camps then they should acknowledge that they did the same thing.

batgoat

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Democrats are the last people to talk about Concentration camps since they actually put people in Concentration camps. Tells what a biased media otherwise they would have been called out on that by now.

Okay so you're accepting one as concentration camps but not the other? Odd... The Japanese camps have been frequently referenced during the discussions. Nobody has forgotten about them or anything.

JohnMc1

batgoat wrote: »

And? I think that was a pretty atrocious thing to do so I'm pretty consistent on the subject.

Democrats are the last people to talk about Concentration camps since they actually put people in Concentration camps. Tells what a biased media otherwise they would have been called out on that by now.

hetuzozaho

batgoat wrote: »

And? I think that was a pretty atrocious thing to do so I'm pretty consistent on the subject.

You mean you're not taking sides

and everything one side does is good and the other side does is bad. Interesting approach!

I see the Youtube videos have started early.

hetuzozaho

batgoat wrote: »

If anything, more people would tend to associate them with concentration camps that Japanese people were placed in during the war in the US. (FDR called them concentration camps FYI)

Personally not what I would have thought - for me concentration camp would immediately make me think of Nazi Germany. I'd be thinking the majority would too.
Not saying that technically etc - but it's the most common use I would have thought.

batgoat

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Oh. You mean when the Democrats rounded up the Asians?

And? I think that was a pretty atrocious thing to do so I'm pretty consistent on the subject.

mad muffin

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

As usual lies and half-truths.

1) Sanders is not a communist;
2) Harris's father is Jamaican - she's half Indian-American;
3) The level of mental gymnastics that relates A$AP Rocky to illegal immigration is immense.

1. Sure he isn’t.

2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1yp1dliS7E

3. Okay. Fair enough. You’re having a hard time understanding. I get it.

Eric Cartman

batgoat wrote: »

If anything, more people would tend to associate them with concentration camps that Japanese people were placed in during the war in the US. (FDR called them concentration camps FYI)

they have been reffered to as Japanese internment camps by most publications, the prefix concentration has been reserved almost exclusively for the nazi camps in any modern context. This is very much an attempt to perpetuate the link between donald trump and nazi'ism and thats all.

JohnMc1

batgoat wrote: »

If anything, more people would tend to associate them with concentration camps that Japanese people were placed in during the war in the US. (FDR called them concentration camps FYI)

Oh. You mean when the Democrats rounded up the Asians?

batgoat

JohnMc1 wrote: »

You know damn well what they're doing with this Concentration Camp bull****. They're desperately trying to tie to this to Nazi Germany.

If anything, more people would tend to associate them with concentration camps that Japanese people were placed in during the war in the US. (FDR called them concentration camps FYI)

JohnMc1

Mardy Bum wrote: »

Firstly, the term concentration camp is not confined to the concentration camps/ and eventual Extermination camps in Germany. Concentration camps have existed in numerous countries. Just use Google

You know damn well what they're doing with this Concentration Camp bull****. They're desperately trying to tie to this to Nazi Germany.

Mardy Bum

JohnMc1 wrote: »

batgoat wrote: »

Calling the concentration camps what they are is not "deriding Jews"...

They're not Concentration Camps. The migrants can leave and return home whenever they want to. You want an example of how insane Liberals have become? Consult a mirror. Comparing the Detention Centers to Concentration Camps where tons of horror was committed is proof of insanity [or just ideological stupidity]

Firstly, the term concentration camp is not confined to the concentration camps/ and eventual Extermination camps in Germany. Concentration camps have existed in numerous countries. Just use Google.

Secondly, migrants can't just leave. Migrants in detention facilities are in the custody of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and attempting to leave a facility without authorization is a criminal offense. The option of "voluntary departure" is blocked off to many by significant legal and financial barriers, and the entire process is subject to the authority and discretion of immigration officials and courts. Migrants cannot simply "leave at any time."

Finally, stop reading the tweets of right wing reactionaries and pick up an actual academic text book which documents the rise of right wing nationalism.

FreudianSlippers

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Have you even seen the Democrat debates? They're all slathered in crazy. Plus there wasn't ONE US Flag on their set. You can't tell me with a straight face that they have the best interests of the US in mind. The Left have to take some measure of the blame for some on the Right going extreme. You can't have one side go absolutely nuts without other side going the same way to counter balance.

Dumbest ****ing post I've read in a long time. Thanks!

FreudianSlippers

mad muffin wrote: »

Oh no! Please! Please! Please! Don’t tell you you truely believe that

Creepy joe who can’t keeps his hands and lips to himself? Who tried to stop bussing in black kids to schools?

Communist millionaire frothing at the mouth mad for trumps head sanders. Who advocates $15 an hour minimum wage, but doesn’t pay it to his staff?

Kamala I’m black Harris? Who is of Indian extractions, but identifies bizarrely now black. Who just recently criticised trump for breach of power, after Kanye West ask trump if he could see and help a$ap rocky an American citizen in Sweden. Yet is always going on about how trump isn’t doing anything to help illegal immigrants.

No my friend. The dems are looney tunes.

As usual lies and half-truths.

1) Sanders is not a communist;
2) Harris's father is Jamaican - she's half Indian-American;
3) The level of mental gymnastics that relates A$AP Rocky to illegal immigration is immense.

mad muffin

suicide_circus wrote: »

its also makes a mockery of the millions who perished in the holocaust

Especially calling the guards nazis. When they are 90% Latino and vote Democrat.

Way to demonise your voter base.

suicide_circus

JohnMc1 wrote: »

They're not Concentration Camps. The migrants can leave and return home whenever they want to. You want an example of how insane Liberals have become? Consult a mirror. Comparing the Detention Centers to Concentration Camps where tons of horror was committed is proof of insanity [or just ideological stupidity]

its also makes a mockery of the millions who perished in the holocaust

JohnMc1

batgoat wrote: »

Calling the concentration camps what they are is not "deriding Jews"...

They're not Concentration Camps. The migrants can leave and return home whenever they want to. You want an example of how insane Liberals have become? Consult a mirror. Comparing the Detention Centers to Concentration Camps where tons of horror was committed is proof of insanity [or just ideological stupidity]

batgoat

mad muffin wrote: »

That’s exactly right. You can’t stoke the fire, and fan the flames and not expect white extremists to go all ape****. With those kind of statement.

On a similar point. It occurred to me how she’s constantly deriding Israel, and the Jews. Calling the detention centres consecration camps.

I’m yet to hear her call out China on their quite frankly, despicable treatment of Chinese muslims. I’m mean if she thinks the detention centres are bad and the Israelis are bad. They ain’t got nothing on China and it’s internment camps.

Calling the concentration camps what they are is not "deriding Jews"...

mad muffin

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Have you even seen the Democrat debates? They're all slathered in crazy. Plus there wasn't ONE US Flag on their set. You can't tell me with a straight face that they have the best interests of the US in mind. The Left have to take some measure of the blame for some on the Right going extreme. You can't have one side go absolutely nuts without other side going the same way to counter balance.

That’s exactly right. You can’t stoke the fire, and fan the flames and not expect white extremists to go all ape****. With those kind of statement.

On a similar point. It occurred to me how she’s constantly deriding Israel, and the Jews. Calling the detention centres consecration camps.

I’m yet to hear her call out China on their quite frankly, despicable treatment of Chinese muslims. I’m mean if she thinks the detention centres are bad and the Israelis are bad. They ain’t got nothing on China and it’s internment camps.

Melanchthon

Sonics2k wrote: »

So, an old clip is resurfaced and then the context changed.

The actual context was on terrorism from Jihadi terrorists. She pointed out, quite correctly, that white males are more likely to commit an act of terrorism by far within the USA. This is a plain and simple fact.

What's the problem?

Whatever about her actual statement, thats an arseways look at things.
There's a thread about dog attacks going at the minute, Golden Retrievers cause more serious injuries than pit bulls, does that mean that golden retrievers are more likely to commit a serious dog attack, no it means there is loads and loads of golden retrievers.

I'd be curious if anybody has links to changing attitudes within the American Muslim population, AFAIK they were previously generally Republican voters and fairly moderate coming from places like Iran during the revolution. Have social attitudes changed in that demographic. Despite my dog analogy lumping groups together often hides a lot.
e.g in Europe the Turkish Grey Wolves are active, they would be generally from a Muslim background yet their ideology is much more ultra-nationalist than a religious based thing.

suicide_circus

batgoat wrote: »

of the biggest threats in the US and there is an actively growing movement of white nationalists as demonstrated in Charlottesville.

i think the white nationalism thing is vastly over exaggerated. the KKK has somewhere between 3000 and 6000 members. Between 500 and 1500 people went to Charlottesville, a number dwarved by the protesters. Meanwhile, The Nation of Islam promotes black separatism and believes that white people were created by a Jewish scientist to harass black people. Their membership ia between 20 and 50 thousand.

batgoat

JohnMc1 wrote: »

It wasn't a comparative statement. It was a thinly veiled attempt at deflection.

Can you provide an actual example of this "crazy"? Eg this thread is literally an edited video and the substance of her point is pretty valid. Domestic white terrorists are one of the biggest threats in the US and there is an actively growing movement of white nationalists as demonstrated in Charlottesville.

BTW, the Democrats wouldn't be classified as "Left" by any European standard...

suicide_circus

was it a bit of an unguarded comment? yes.

was the releasing and lack of context a hatchet job? definitely.

but the american left dosnt have a leg to stand on in calling foul on hatchet jobs.

JohnMc1

Odhinn wrote: »

Holy jaysus preserve us......

An intelligent thought provoking response as usual. :rolleyes:

Odhinn

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Have you even seen the Democrat debates? They're all slathered in crazy. Plus there wasn't ONE US Flag on their set. You can't tell me with a straight face that they have the best interests of the US in mind. The Left have to take some measure of the blame for some on the Right going extreme. You can't have one side go absolutely nuts without other side going the same way to counter balance.

Holy jaysus preserve us......

JohnMc1

Deleted User wrote: »

So, she was asked:

Interviewer: 'A lot of conservatives would say our country should be more fearful of "Jihadist terrorism". What do you say to that?
Interviewee: 'I would say our country should be more fearful of White men across our country'

So, it was a comparative statement. Do some people here actually believe violence by 'Jihadist terrorists' in the US is greater than violence by White men?

That said, she phrased her argument stupidly and ignorantly. While 64% of the US prison population is 'White', a proportionately far greater percentage of the prison population is 'Black'. She would have come across far more reasonable had she just pointed out the murder rate in the US by "Jihadist terrorists" compared to the murder rate by all the other sections, or something like that, without engaging in reverse racism by talking about "White men".

It wasn't a comparative statement. It was a thinly veiled attempt at deflection.