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The glorious 12th

realdanbreen

I see where there is a gigantic pile of pallets stacked up in an estate in Portadown which the fire service regard as a 'serious health and safety risk'. Apparently 30+ firms have been approached to remove/dismantle it but nobody will touch it. One things for certain if that was some years ago in a nationalist area the British army would be steaming in like a flash to dismantle it and anything else that was in its way.

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dudara

janfebmar wrote: »

...Maybe you are Francie?...

Do not make these types of comments. Use Report Post if you have a problem.

dudara

FrancieBrady

janfebmar wrote:

and those who freely aided the Nazi cause are today very properly reviled throughout the world. Except by Irish Republicans.

Isn't it funny how you and the blanch have not taken the opportunity to 'revile' the blind eye turned by Britain and others to Germany rearming itself during the 1930's?

During the 1930s, the Nazi government began rearming Germany for what would become the Second World War. The response from Germany’s main opponents, Britain and France, was so muted it was best described as too little, too late.

janfebmar

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

I have a picture of a young queen Elizabeth and her sister doing a Nazi salute.

In 1933, long before the full horrors of Nazi Germany were exposed. When prancing around on a lawn I done a Usian Bolt type salute once, means nothing.

A lot different to erecting the only statue to a Nazi collaborator in Europe, long after the war ended. No wonder the Jews are so offended.

Stop moaning ffs

janfebmar wrote: »

In 1933, long before the full horrors of Nazi Germany were exposed. When prancing around on a lawn I done a Usian Bolt type salute once, means nothing.

A lot different to erecting the only statue to a Nazi collaborator in Europe, long after the war ended. No wonder the Jews are so offended.

What year did Russell ‘collaborate’ with the Nazis again?

Stop moaning ffs

janfebmar wrote: »

In 1933, long before the full horrors of Nazi Germany were exposed. When prancing around on a lawn I done a Usian Bolt type salute once, means nothing.

A lot different to erecting the only statue to a Nazi collaborator in Europe, long after the war ended. No wonder the Jews are so offended.

Seán Russell died in 1940.
As you said. Long before the full horrors of Nazi Germany were exposed.

So if we can forgive the young queen for her actions we can forgive Seán his no?

janfebmar

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Seán Russell died in 1940.
As you said. Long before the full horrors of Nazi Germany were exposed.

So if we can forgive the young queen for her actions we can forgive Seán his no?

Prancing around on a lawn in 1933 is a lot different to the leader of the IRA collaborating or attempting to collaborate on board a German submarine at sea during WW2. The Germans were not running Disney type joyride out in to the Atlantic at that time.

Stop moaning ffs

janfebmar wrote: »

Prancing around on a lawn in 1933 is a lot different to the leader of the IRA collaborating or attempting to collaborate on board a German submarine at sea during WW2. The Germans were not running Disney type joyride out in to the Atlantic at that time.

You’re contradicting yourself.
If the queen wasn’t aware she can’t be blamed as nobody knew the full extent of what the Nazis were up to.
Russell didn’t either. But you seem to want to blame him not her

I’m sensing a theme here

FrancieBrady

janfebmar wrote: »

Prancing around on a lawn in 1933 is a lot different to the leader of the IRA collaborating or attempting to collaborate on board a German submarine at sea during WW2. The Germans were not running Disney type joyride out in to the Atlantic at that time.

Do you think they were planning a Disney ride when they marched unimpeded into the Rhineland displaying their illegal armaments while Britain and France' looked on?

janfebmar

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

You’re contradicting yourself.
If the queen wasn’t aware she can’t be blamed as nobody knew the full extent of what the Nazis were up to.
Russell didn’t either. But you seem to want to blame him not her

I’m sensing a theme here

In 1933 the Nazis had not invaded countries or driven out Jews etc. The world was a different place in the 1940s.

Stop moaning ffs

janfebmar wrote: »

In 1933 the Nazis had not invaded countries or driven out Jews etc. The world was a different place in the 1940s.

You miss the point again.
Leaders of the 1916 rising also collaborated with the Germans for guns and artillery to fight agains the Brits. Are they any different to this?
Sean’s case is no different.
In war you’ll take any advantage you can against an enemy.

janfebmar

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

You miss the point again.
Leaders of the 1916 rising also collaborated with the Germans for guns and artillery to fight agains the Brits. Are they any different to this?
Sean’s case is no different.
In war you’ll take any advantage you can against an enemy.

IRA artillery in 1916? No need to read the rest of your post.

Stop moaning ffs

janfebmar wrote: »

IRA artillery in 1916? No need to read the rest of your post.

You haven’t heard of 1916?
You’re not really from here are you though

*there was no Ira in 1916 btw. There was an irb though

janfebmar

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

You haven’t heard of 1916?

Of course I heard of 1916, but you said the leaders of the 1916 rising collaborated with the Germans for Artillery?

Do you know what Artillery is?

Stop moaning ffs

janfebmar wrote: »

Of course I heard of 1916, but you said the leaders of the 1916 rising collaborated with the Germans for Artillery?

Do you know what Artilerry is?

They asked. They didn’t get.
They didn’t get the guns either.

But as usual you are so easily defeated and pathetically dodge the actual question I asked.

Diddums

_blaaz

janfebmar wrote: »

Of course I heard of 1916, but you said the leaders of the 1916 rising collaborated with the Germans for Artillery?

Do you know what Artillery is?

They literally arrested roger casement for attempting to bring arms onto a beach in kerry

Rather ironically got to eire via submarine too

janfebmar

_blaaz wrote: »

They literally arrested roger casement for attempting to bring arms onto a beach in kerry

Arms, not Artillery. I was not aware the leaders of the 1916 rising used Artillery, as was claimed a few posts ago?

Stop moaning ffs

Motion to have ‘a nation once again’ as the national anthem when we’re reunited.

All in favour say aye

Haha

Stop moaning ffs

janfebmar wrote: »

Arms, not Artillery. I was not aware the leaders of the 1916 rising used Artillery, as was claimed a few posts ago?

Nobody said they used artillery.
They asked the Germans for guns and artillery.
They got guns.

Then didn’t get the guns.

Please keep up.

janfebmar

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Motion to have ‘a nation once again’ as the national anthem when we’re reunited.

All in favour say aye

Haha

With B. Prods out as the chorus line?

Stop moaning ffs

janfebmar wrote: »

Arms, not Artillery. I was not aware the leaders of the 1916 rising used Artillery, as was claimed a few posts ago?

*they also considered offering the German monarchy rule over Ireland.
Then They realised they’d just be swapping one german monarchy for another so decided against it haha

janfebmar

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Leaders of the 1916 rising also collaborated with the Germans for guns and artillery to fight agains the Brits.

Guns, not Artillery. The reason German gun dealers had some guns for sale was because they were obsolete by modern gun standards at the time, but perfectly ok for terrorist type / guerilla type warfare / call it what you want.

Stop moaning ffs

janfebmar wrote: »

With B. P out as the chorus line?

Actually you’re right. It’s a bad idea.

It’ll probably be u2 or Phil counter that’ll write the new anthem

_blaaz

janfebmar wrote: »

Guns, not Artillery. The reason German gun dealers had some guns for sale was because they were obsolete by modern gun standards at the time, but perfectly ok for terrorist type / guerilla type warfare / call it what you want.

They got same rifles (303 iirc)germans were using in the trenches at the time?

You are so poorly informed about this,5 mins ago you didnt even know they got arms ffs

Stop moaning ffs

_blaaz wrote: »

They got same rifles (303 iirc)germans were using in the trenches at the time?

You are so poorly informed about this,5 mins ago you didnt even know they got arms ffs

Agreed. Hasn’t a clue.

[Deleted User]

janfebmar wrote: »

In 1933, long before the full horrors of Nazi Germany were exposed. When prancing around on a lawn I done a Usian Bolt type salute once, means nothing.

A lot different to erecting the only statue to a Nazi collaborator in Europe, long after the war ended. No wonder the Jews are so offended.

So you think the jews would be offended by loyalists using nazi flags and emblems in their right wing approach?

RobMc59

Probably not as offended as the relatives of those murdered in the kingsmill massacre when SF MP macelduff mocked them by putting a loaf on his head.

Stop moaning ffs

RobMc59 wrote: »

Probably not as offended as the relatives of those murdered in the kingsmill massacre when SF MP macelduff mocked them by putting a loaf on his head.

Another running theme. Same posters unable to answer questions constantly resorting to whatabouttery.
It’s uncanny.

Here’s the question again

So you think the jews would be offended by loyalists using nazi flags and emblems in their right wing approach?

FrancieBrady

Janfebmar, direct question: do you think the statue of Carson should be taken down due to his involvement in illegal gun running, sedition and collaboration with a private miliitia?

janfebmar

_blaaz wrote: »

They got same rifles (303 iirc)germans were using in the trenches at the time?

You are so poorly informed about this,5 mins ago you didnt even know they got arms ffs

Wrong, totally wrong again, you remind me so much of Francie. I questioned the 1916 leaders getting Artillery, as was claimed. You do know there is a difference between arms and artillery?

_blaaz

janfebmar wrote: »

Wrong, totally wrong again, you remind me so much of Francie. I questioned the 1916 leaders getting Artillery, as was claimed. You do know there is a difference between arms and artillery?

Keep screaming wrong over and over again....its pure self projection from yous now tbh