Outlaw Pete wrote: » Some of the questions, sure, but far from all of them. Watching MSNBC for my sins and even their political pundits said that the ongoing investigation didn't excuse some of his swerves.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » Far as i know Barr is just reviewing the origins of russiagate , may be wrong about this? Mueller was asked did you interview Christoper Steele and he refused to answer. It simple yes or no answer this and it would in no way affect another investigation. Steele dossier was discussed in the Mueller report and the only complication would be if Muller was discussing new findings at the hearing.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » Appearance by Mueller is an embarrassment. He is refusing to answer basic questions about the investigation. It beyond my purview seriously? You there to answer questions about your report and he should be allowed to just say i can not answer that. Politics in America is truly broken when you can't find out why the investigation started and why. He's refusal to answer basic questions about the Steele dossier is tragic.
Leroy42 wrote: » I just find it amazing that so many, here and in the US, are most interested in whataboutery that what actually happened. Clearly Trump has some serious questions to answer in terms of obstruction. Yet many seem to think that he should be allowed obstruct on the basis that he should never have been investigated. Or that even if he did obstruck other people did wrong things as well. For a man that claimed he was going to drain the swamp, his supporters seem totally unwilling to ask that he starts with himself. It reminds me, in a small way, about the whole episode with Bertie and the tribunals. Supporters seem genuinely more interested in protecting their man then the truth or the country. The country should always come first. And it is what the politicians demand of the citizens, be it to pay taxes or fight wars. But Trump supporters (and they are not the only ones) seem to believe that country should come a distant second. Defence of their man comes first.
TomOnBoard wrote: » I find it doubly amazing that the very people who are trying to undermine everything Mueller reported consider themselves 'Patriots' and wrap themselves in the Stars and Stripes while spitting vitriol. These so-called Patriots are quite willing to ignore that their country was ATTACKED by a foreign hostile power and they seem more interested in protecting their man than in ensuring it never happens again! It's absolutely mind-boggling!
Penn wrote: » I have to agree. If nothing else, the Mueller report clearly proved a) Russia tried to help Trump win the election (how much they succeeded in terms of influencing votes can't be measured, but they tried regardless) b) The Trump campaign welcomed and expected to benefit from Russia's help c) Senior members of the Trump campaign were working with foreign entities to help influence the election and enrich themselves in the process d) All of the above could have compromised members of the Trump team regarding bribes/influence/blackmail related to their acceptance of Russian assistance e) The Russian campaign was an attack on a Presidential election Regardless of evidence of conspiracy, the origins of the Mueller report or anything relating to obstruction, how does any American person, group or political party not see that as anything less than an attack on America itself?
Gbear wrote: » I don't think it's an accident that so many "nerds" are taken in by conspiracy theories.
FreudianSlippers wrote: » This is an extraordinarily disingenuous statement considering the fact that it's the DOJ (read: Barr) that outlined what Mueller could and couldn't discuss.
Stop moaning ffs wrote: » Did you hear the one about trump appearing In a video standing in front of the US seal. Except it wasn’t the US seal. It was ‘tampered’ with and was actually the Russian seal. But it was a mistake. Golf clubs included. Seems to me there’s probably quite a few in his administration actively working against him.https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/president-trump/how-did-trump-end-up-in-front-of-a-presidential-seal-doctored-to-include-a-russian-symbol/ar-AAEPTgk?li=BBr5KbJ&ocid=mailsignout
VinLieger wrote: » Not only was it a specific double headed eagle that is part of the Russian coat of Arms, along with the golf clubs it was also clutching wads of cash, the stars on the flag are replaced with a hammer and sickle and the banner reads "45 is a puppet"https://i.imgur.com/GosXIRr.jpg Fair play to whoever pulled this off
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Feel bad for the guy, democrats should be ashamed, but for months liberals had been asking everyone had they read the Mueller report, over and over, celebrities even preformed dramatic readings of it, but yet when it came to the day, turns out Mueller hadn't read the Mueller report.
peddlelies wrote: » The other angle they're grasping at now is that Mueller said a President could be indicted after leaving office. That's like me saying I could fly to the moon if I built a rocket. The dictionary definitions of the worlds "could" and "should" need to be more closely examined.
TomOnBoard wrote: » Mueller gave his opinion on something that he is hugely knowledgeable about. So his opinion is both valid and valuab!e in respect of whether Trump could be indicted once out of office. On the other hand, unless you are a combination astronaut and rocket scientist, your opinion in relation to Moon missions is neither valid nor really of any value.Are you a combination astronaut and rocket scientist? :P
peddlelies wrote: » Bit of an exaggeration on my part to be fair I feel a bit bad for Mueller today, the soundbites of him stumbling are doing the rounds in the media and online and that's unfair I feel. He's an old man who's age has clearly affected him negatively. His reputation has been dented badly by yesterdays proceedings. On the other hand I think of people like General Flynn and what he's gone through...
DrumSteve wrote: » What's he gone through?
peddlelies wrote: » Bankruptcy and being dragged through the courts. Andrew McCabe screwed him over pretty much.https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-flynn-entrapment-11544658915
batgoat wrote: » You're not very subtle at painting Mueller in a particular light who constantly treated the investigation professionally and assessed the findings in a professional manner. Meanwhile Flynn is a criminal who conducted himself terribly.
Stop moaning ffs wrote: » Trump supporters delighting in an elderly mans age related difficulties yet totally ignoring the very apparent dementia and adarol fuelled nonsensical rants both in public and on twitter. Something to really think about.
peddlelies wrote: » How do you know that? I know the SC omitted key sentences in campaign emails for court filings to change the context of said emails entirely. I know they raided and pointed guns at people who weren't a physical threat, stuck others in solitary confinement, and according to reports they attempted to coarse damaging untrue statements from people in exchange for immunity. Mueller gave the appearance that he learned more about the Mueller report than anyone else yesterday. His performance was laughable, and I don't like using that word because clearly he has problems associated with his age.
batgoat wrote: » Btw, not being an amazing public speaker does not make him either mentally unwell or poor at his job.