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Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

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The Nal

The Nate fight appeals in terms of style but lets see what happens in a few weeks. 3 years almost to the day since his last fight and if he loses this he will have lost 5 of his last 8 fights in the last 7 years.

A journeyman.

spix

crybaby wrote: »

Personally I would love to see him just try and go back to 145, win the title and build a legacy there like what Holloway is doing now. I have no interest in seeing him beat Diaz again and I am perplexed as to why JK finds it such a fascinating fight, twice was enough for me and there was a definite sense in the second fight that he had figured out Diaz to an extent.

I don't think he finds it as fascinating as he makes it out, rather thats the fight he wants Conor to take for other reasons. Diaz is such a simple fighter, no chance of powerful punches, brutal head kicks, flying knees, spinning backfists. Hes just going to stand there and take punches and all conor has to do is stay focused and not gas himself out to have a good chance at winning. He doesn't want any chance of his star pupil ending his career by being knocked out cold, thats why he said he wouldn't corner him unless it was a diaz/khabib rematch, most other 155 fighters have KO ability besides diaz/khabib. Plus its not so bad if he loses to someone he's already lost to, reputation wise. Thats just my opinion, could be wrong

Ush1

crybaby wrote: »

Personally I would love to see him just try and go back to 145, win the title and build a legacy there like what Holloway is doing now. I have no interest in seeing him beat Diaz again and I am perplexed as to why JK finds it such a fascinating fight, twice was enough for me and there was a definite sense in the second fight that he had figured out Diaz to an extent.

I think it's a couple of factors. Conor has always said he will give Nate that rubber match so he kind of has to go through with it before retiring. From Kavanaghs perspective, Diaz is a known quantity at this stage unlike other riskier fights and it's really just a matter of working on Conors cardio to win.

crybaby

Personally I would love to see him just try and go back to 145, win the title and build a legacy there like what Holloway is doing now. I have no interest in seeing him beat Diaz again and I am perplexed as to why JK finds it such a fascinating fight, twice was enough for me and there was a definite sense in the second fight that he had figured out Diaz to an extent.

Never wrestle with pigs

I think that he could handle max no worries to be honest. Can he do 145 agin? It would be a good way to come back and earn a bit of respect. Win 145 and Go for the 155 then?

Frank Bullitt

spix wrote: »

waiting for lowest risk/highest reward fight aka diaz or khabib rematch

Lowest risk and Khabib in the same sentence...what???

spix

willowthewisp wrote: »

Why isn’t he signing onto any fights?

waiting for lowest risk/highest reward fight aka diaz or khabib rematch

willowthewisp

Why isn’t he signing onto any fights?

[Deleted User]

ESPN+ online/app only available here in US I think? At least I watched this online on ESPN+ Some cards are regular ESPN and some have ESPN+ prelim/early cards as well as main card PPVs. I signed up on a free/trial deal last time I was over.

I'm sure that'll be floating around online on youtube or some such at some point

Mellor

Cali_girl wrote: »

I'm in the US at the moment, and didn't check out his Insta but *think* that may have been related to "Detail". Just aired on ESPN+ this or last week - it's a 1 hour show where Daniel Cormier takes the three key McGregor showstopper fights against Max, Siver and Alvarez and breaks down Conor's technique. The whole show is DC narrating to slow-mos of the 3 fights, and basically talks up Conor's distance control through footwork, boxing movement (defensive slips etc) and touches on where he went wrong and right grappling. Was very very good. Nothing new or ground breaking to expose but solid and very entertaining.

Felt a tad nostalgic really but worth a watch.

Seen the ad for that during the UFC at the weekend. Been looking for it on ESPN to no avail

[Deleted User]

Boom_Bap wrote: »

He did post an image of himself landing a blow on Max last week on Instagram. That might be him trying to get something going.

I'm in the US at the moment, and didn't check out his Insta but *think* that may have been related to "Detail". Just aired on ESPN+ this or last week - it's a 1 hour show where Daniel Cormier takes the three key McGregor showstopper fights against Max, Siver and Alvarez and breaks down Conor's technique. The whole show is DC narrating to slow-mos of the 3 fights, and basically talks up Conor's distance control through footwork, boxing movement (defensive slips etc) and touches on where he went wrong and right grappling. Was very very good. Nothing new or ground breaking to expose but solid and very entertaining.

Felt a tad nostalgic really but worth a watch.

Boom_Bap

He did post an image of himself landing a blow on Max last week on Instagram. That might be him trying to get something going.

BigMo1

creeper1 wrote: »

Don’t think he wants to retire on the low note of being defeated by khabib however with khabib saying he wants to see some kind of winning streak from McGregor before a rematch and really no easy fights out there the smart thing might be to retire.

No easy fights out there. Lots of interesting ones though. Max, Nate, Tony even Masvidal are all interesting matchups. The Jorge fight may be a bit fanciful.

callaway92

Mellor wrote: »

They’ve done every event. I checked there.
It’s just basic stats though.

Significant/Total strikes. Landed and thrown. By target. By position.
Takedowns. Knockdowns. Submissions. Passes.
Totals and Round by round.

I’m sure paying for it gets more detailed stats.

Cool

We do more in depth than that post-fight.

Live, we do as much as physically possible pretty much

creeper1

BigMo1 wrote: »

Any predictions on his next fight? A lot of potential contenders are currently booked.

Don’t think he wants to retire on the low note of being defeated by khabib however with khabib saying he wants to see some kind of winning streak from McGregor before a rematch and really no easy fights out there the smart thing might be to retire.

Mellor

callaway92 wrote: »

Ya true - Only reason we generally go back for historic data is if a client specifically requests a certain fight/event, but maybe a deal they have with their providers is that they also did historical events with 'top tier' coding probably (all punches/kicks etc)

They’ve done every event. I checked there.
It’s just basic stats though.

Significant/Total strikes. Landed and thrown. By target. By position.
Takedowns. Knockdowns. Submissions. Passes.
Totals and Round by round.

I’m sure paying for it gets more detailed stats.

callaway92

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd be surprised if they haven't gone back over the earlier events. It still catches me out that Lesnar debuted at UFC 81, I'd been watching for years at that stage and get surprised that it's at 240 now. With extra fight nights and all I can't believe they wouldn't at some stage have gone back over the few dozen earlier events.

Ya true - Only reason we generally go back for historic data is if a client specifically requests a certain fight/event, but maybe a deal they have with their providers is that they also did historical events with 'top tier' coding probably (all punches/kicks etc)

[Deleted User]

I'd be surprised if they haven't gone back over the earlier events. It still catches me out that Lesnar debuted at UFC 81, I'd been watching for years at that stage and get surprised that it's at 240 now. With extra fight nights and all I can't believe they wouldn't at some stage have gone back over the few dozen earlier events.

callaway92

Mellor wrote: »

What line of work are you in? Like, for what reason would I pay you for this info?

UFC/Zuffa have an official stat provider. They’ve gone right back to UFC 1.
There’s only 40 event before 2003 tbf. Which is like a year worth now.

Sports Data/Analytics

For what it's worth we are the biggest data providers in the world.

For MMA we sell to media companies/betting companies/fantasy gaming companies etc

For Soccer/Rugby etc we sell the the above as-well-as Pro sports Leagues and Teams

Mellor

callaway92 wrote: »

That’s what I was questioning - have people actually coded historical fights - we have done back as far as about 2003 but nobody pays for the older archives then, so no point.

What line of work are you in? Like, for what reason would I pay you for this info?

UFC/Zuffa have an official stat provider. They’ve gone right back to UFC 1.
There’s only 40 event before 2003 tbf. Which is like a year worth now.

BigMo1

Any predictions on his next fight? A lot of potential contenders are currently booked.

callaway92

Mellor wrote: »

That sort of tech didn’t exist back in the day. But it exists now. Retrospective analysis.
Well I suppose it’s all retrospective, to some degree.

That’s what I was questioning - have people actually coded historical fights - we have done back as far as about 2003 but nobody pays for the older archives then, so no point.

Mellor

That sort of tech didn’t exist back in the day. But it exists now. Retrospective analysis.
Well I suppose it’s all retrospective, to some degree.

callaway92

Mellor wrote: »

What do you mean by “coding fights”?

This for example

https://www.hudl.com/products/sportscode

We use a different system in our place for coding boxing/mma but generally, HUDL is what people use.

Mellor

callaway92 wrote: »

Nah - Was more just wondering how they actually verified it, because there's no way coding fights existed back-in-the-day.

May be correct obv

What do you mean by “coding fights”?

callaway92

Nah - Was more just wondering how they actually verified it, because there's no way coding fights existed back-in-the-day.

May be correct obv

LollipopJimmy

Mellor wrote: »

3 times in the second fight. None in the first.

And recently described him like 'something from the Thriller video' - in that he just kept getting back up

The Nal

Mellor wrote: »

Yup. Everyone from Brimage to Aldo was knock down once and was finished from that. Max excluded obv.

Impressive. What a great few years he had. So exciting to watch.

Mellor

The Nal wrote: »

And Eddie 3 times. Meaning Nate got up 3 times and Eddie got up twice.

Think Conor finished all his other UFC KO wins with the first knockdown?

Yup. Everyone from Brimage to Aldo was knock down once and was finished from that. Max excluded obv.

The Nal

Nigzcurran wrote: »

Think he knocked Diaz down about 6 times?

And Eddie 3 times. Meaning Nate got up 3 times and Eddie got up twice.

Think Conor finished all his other UFC KO wins with the first knockdown?