theaceofspies wrote: » Cavanjack wrote: » What’s the alternative? Beef farmers are not the only frogs being slow boiled at the moment.https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/if-bord-na-mona-and-esb-go-now-thats-it-for-lanesboro/ Rural Ireland is being sold out left, right and centre. This is treason Irish style - be careful who you vote(d) for. They could be coming for dairy farmers next.
Cavanjack wrote: » What’s the alternative?
theaceofspies wrote: » Beef farmers are not the only frogs being slow boiled at the moment.https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/if-bord-na-mona-and-esb-go-now-thats-it-for-lanesboro/ Rural Ireland is being sold out left, right and centre. This is treason Irish style - be careful who you vote(d) for. They could be coming for dairy farmers next.
jaymla627 wrote: » The irony of an bord phleana refusing planning permission on its mission to save the planet, while in the next breath they will turn around and refuse planning for solar and wind farms also in a lot of cases just shows the banana republic Ireland is becoming, always liked Richard Burton but he’s becoming a a sorry excuse of a minister as time goes on.... The only thing that will focus the current governments mind to show a ounce of respect for rural communities would be a sharp deep prolonged recession and the corporation tax well drying up, but no one obviously wants to see that
kk.man wrote: » The Brutons were large cattle farmers not that long ago. I have oftened woundered why no-one in the Dail didn't remind him of this and how he was reared and educated on the back of cattle. The way he has turned is a disgrace.
Hard Knocks wrote: » He doesn’t look like a lad that would of came too close to livestock
Bass Reeves wrote: » It always amazes me the way lads think that politicians make s difference to there life and blame them for it. Throughout my lifetime there is only one time I was really annoyed with the political establishment. That was in the noughties. I could see the kick in the hole coming but could do nothing about it. What was worse it was twice as bad as I expected. TBH the decision today is justified, HTF can you justify importing biomass to sustain a bio fuel burner/powerplant. Can we grow willow or other fuel such as elephant grass sustain it. Maybe but most of it would be on suckler land. Now I heard the bollax from An Taisce and I am not impressed with him either. But blaming politicians for everything that effects you is BS. You control your own destiny or else you decide to live in a cocoon of your own making. If you burn the candle at both ends in you teens and early twenties do not expect to have everything in your fifties. Politicians and the tax system are there to be used and abused. TBH after 2010 I decided that never again would I allow politicians have a serious effect on my life. It took me 3 years to get my sh!t together, but I promised never, never again. I did not inherit land or property. Would I consider myself lucky yes but I rode the rhino. The only thing I ever got was a site, but it brought its own problems. You either manage the difficulties in your life or else they control you.
Fireside Solicitor wrote: » I think the point is that Fine Gael and the boys who run it now couldn't give a continental s**** about rural Ireland, farmers, anyone beyond the pale, anyone who doesn't talk with a D4 accent, anyone who doesn't do yoga or go running. We were talking about it the other day. They don't need to care as they got the votes the last time out. If you ask me that was what a weak has Fianna Fail led to. A more Dublin/urban skew than should be the case.
Keep Sluicing wrote: » Ive about 15 or 16 ready to go to the factory. One is over age and 2 more will be over age in 2 weeks. Asked my factory agent/lorry man what the best he can get for bullocks. He said €3.50/kg, i raised an eyebrow a said i thought €3.55/kg was available!. He laughted and said, does it really matter any more, were all fcuked at that price. Needless to say, I'll be holding onto them for 4 to 6 more week, they can add weight on grass and not much fear of tgem going fat. Same man have over 80 bulls and he going banding them
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » Not very encouraging. I’m out of beef in another 12mts or so, or whenever I can find a victim to offload young stock. If said victim was to surface, I’d be out immediately. Eu beef can’t compete against SAmerican (etc) beef, less beef being consumed in EU and constant rising costs just doesn’t stack up...even though we produce our own calves, use all home produced feed and facilities. Shame as there’s feck all work in it, but enough is enough. Thing about beef is that it’s simple to jump back in if circumstances change...health scare in white meat etc.etc.
Fireside Solicitor wrote: » The Brutons are still large cattle farmers in Meath
Limestone Cowboy wrote: Have a huge block of winterage in the burren aswell.
lab man wrote: » around 180 I heard yrs ago would this be right
older by the day wrote: » I suppose the only thing that would focus the people's mind on agriculture is food scarcity. Remember the snow and the slice pan rush.
Dinzee Conlee wrote: » I don’t know, I don’t think irish people have a thing about buying irish - regardless of what the product is. Was in England on holidays, and was surprised at the about of English produce, and the way it was marketed as English. It was a selling point, whereas here, you just wouldn’t see it as much... I wonder if non-food is where we should be looking - how can we as farmers best fit into the new climate change and electricity generation model? Why do all generation options have to be so large scale they are only possible for large multinational companies? What small scale generation models could work for farmers, maybe with the help of some farming body pushing a deal with the government for supply... What about biogas digesters - in areas of high dairy/pig concentration, could these be put in place. Again, we’d need some representative body to fight for this, and would need government support. But it could be something that could generate a return, and would it also take care of some of the nitrates issues for people? It would be great to see some body (IFA, Teagasc / whoever) looking at alternatives or add-ons, and spring with the government to deliver proposals which could be incorporated into farms to boost income. I am not aware of anything like this happening?
Dinzee Conlee wrote: » I don’t know, I don’t think irish people have a thing about buying irish - regardless of what the product is. Was in England on holidays, and was surprised at the about of English produce, and the way it was marketed as English. It was a selling point, whereas here, you just wouldn’t see it as much... I wonder if non-food is where we should be looking - how can we as farmers best fit into the new climate change and electricity generation model? Why do all generation options have to be so large scale they are only possible for large multinational companies? What small scale generation models could work for farmers, maybe with the help of some farming body pushing a deal with the government for supply... What about biogas digesters - in areas of high dairy/pig concentration, could these be put in place. Again, we’d need some representative body to fight for this, and would need government support. But it could be something that could generate a return, and would it also take care of some of the nitrates issues for people?It would be great to see some body (IFA, Teagasc / whoever) looking at alternatives or add-ons, and spring with the government to deliver proposals which could be incorporated into farms to boost income. I am not aware of anything like this happening?
Buford T. Justice VI wrote: » There's been plenty of different projects put before the Government with the last 5 years in particular on microgeneration and biomass projects but all were received with little more that a pat on the head for the proposals. One of the difficulties would be planning permission being refused like in Lanesboro(?) where the roads were considered too poor to cater for the traffic. In comparison the Germany, where a large percentage of farmers receive payment for generation, we're a long, long way behind and likely to fall altogether before the Government even looks at the idea.
Dinzee Conlee wrote: » Do you have any details / links on this Buford?
Water John wrote: » As a matter of interest, how much actual meat would be on such a carcass? For example Whelans (owned by Dunnes) have dry aged burgers selling at €14/Kg. This is for the cheapest cuts of meat. Say a meat yield of 60% is 270 Kg.
