Sunny Disposition wrote: » Some of the people on Bloody Sunday were shot after the soldiers chased them, it wasn’t all from behind barricades. But anyway we’re digressing, can we agreed that the Support Soldier F banners are wrong?
Fionn1952 wrote: » In fairness, Blaaz, the majority of Unionists I've met and known over the years absolutely don't. It's a small group of very vocal extreme outliers who support things like Bloody Sunday. Unfortunately the squeaky wheel gets the oil, creating an unfair perception that it is a mainstream view.
citytillidie wrote: » Same as the paras in Derry and Ballymurphy, went out to kill as many catholics as they could and then coward behind the safety of the British government.
_blaaz wrote: » They will row in behind and wear poppy all the same and never ever condemn the support for soldier f banners in shared spaces like town centres etc....to best my knowlege no unionist politian has condemned these or called for their removal and several have expressed delight for these banners So much for a shared future and building community relations they like to spout about
downcow wrote: » No
downcow wrote: » Fionn1952 wrote: » In fairness, Blaaz, the majority of Unionists I've met and known over the years absolutely don't. It's a small group of very vocal extreme outliers who support things like Bloody Sunday. Unfortunately the squeaky wheel gets the oil, creating an unfair perception that it is a mainstream view. And you can feel BS was very wrong yet still support a young private on the day who is being singled out for attention
downcow wrote: » What I am asking is what you mean by an area that does/does not want it. Is it 50% + 1 oppose it then it’s not wanted or if 1 person opposes it. Like if one person wants it is it wanted. And is it the entire route or could it be maybe 3 houses along a route do/don’t want it. I will certainly answer your question when you clarify it for me. ie how you decide if it’s wanted or not?
Fionn1952 wrote: » 100% agree, downcow, Soldier F should not have been singled out for attention. Every single soldier there who fired on civilians should be right up there in the dock with him, along with everyone who was complicit in giving the orders. One soldier facing charges is an absolute travesty.
Junkyard Tom wrote: » It's a grim display of support for the murder of innocent Catholics by British forces. You support that do you?
FrancieBrady wrote: » There is an independent parades commission to decide on these things and they have. Neither you or I have the right to second guess them. Why won't the OO abide by this process?
blanch152 wrote: » Yes, normal people will agree that the Support Soldier F banners are wrong, those normal people will also think that the IRA murals in West Belfast are wrong. Unfortunately there are few enough on here who would say that about both. Too many throwing in glasshouses
FrancieBrady wrote: » Exactly. There should be many more than soldiers on trial for what happened that day and after.
Sunny Disposition wrote: » This is crazy, you feel he should not be put on trial? Do you feel no one should be put on trial? That the people shot dead in Derry were fair game?
downcow wrote: » I have been very clear. Bloody Sunday was wrong but there were 3,000 other wrong killings. Chase all the killers or chase none. Simple
downcow wrote: » Francie you are ducking and diving again. Let’s not deflect by using the parades Commission. Simple question What is your criteria for deciding if a parade is wanted or not??? The parades Commission won’t tell anyone how they decide. Then I’ll answer your question
FrancieBrady wrote: » It isn't my job or yours to decide. That is for an independent body. Has the OO ever abided by or accepted a decision of the PC?
downcow wrote: » Chase all the killers or chase none. Simple
downcow wrote: » I have not heard a single nationalist call for the removal of the illegal ira memorial in my town
downcow wrote: » You are avoiding the question francie. I have had direct contact with the parades Commission and many of their decisions either way are completely without logic. The question is what is you criteria for deciding if a parade is unwanted???
downcow wrote: » Nonsense
downcow wrote: » Tell me what exactly is wrong about a banner supporting someone who you think should not be dragged through the court system on his own
_blaaz wrote: » What about what about what about.....do you people have anything positive to offer the world
downcow wrote: » Francie asked me if I would support parades in areas they were not wanted. I have simply asked him how he would suggest I define no wanted. He won’t answer that simple question. But you see that question goes to the heart of it.
Junkyard Tom wrote: » What bizarre other-world are you living in? Republicans severed thousands of years in jails across Ireland and Britain. The terrorists in uniforms were practically immune from opening fire on innocent Catholics. The terrorists in uniforms should have been chased 40 years ago but they weren't.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I am not avoiding the question. Disputed parades are to be adjudicated on by the PC. For instance, the PC didn't get involved in the Portrush parade tonight, because it is not disputed. It isn't up to me to decide. Why will the OO not abide by independent arbitration on these parades. The PC's criteria is there for all to see.
_blaaz wrote: » Mate,your literally supporting a murderer? Nothing wrong with it....but your a pure hypocrite to critise republican/unionist terrorist for doing same.thing You cant claim to support community relations while cheering on shooting civil rights protesters...the two just dont fit.... But you keep.up.the support of soldier f all you want....just a perfect fit for the caricature now
downcow wrote: » Of one single very junior ira member was being singled out for production following a £100m+ enquiry then I would have no problem with nationalists putting up banners to support him position. It’s you that is the hypocrite.
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