is_that_so wrote: » It's less about their votes and more about how they might be viewed in key battle grounds. They aren't the face of the Dems but they get a lot of attention and suggesting they are is a good political move. Last time people voted for Trump because they disliked him less.
Stop moaning ffs wrote: » So he’s targeted these four ladies and weaponsied their stance in order to make people dislike them (further)? And made them the face of the Democrats? Do I have that right? That’s a really dangerous move for them. Omar already received credible death threats a few months back and at least one loon arrested. He left her some horrific voicemails and emails as far as I know. If that is in fact what trumps done it’s really frightening. Hope I’m wrong.
everlast75 wrote: » So he attacks them with racist comments and somehow they are the bad guys? **** voters who can't see the inherent nonsense in that equation.
is_that_so wrote: » If it is Biden who gets selected it might be less of a problem but they are a prime target in those swing states. As has been mentioned before AOC doesn't have a positive national profile and given how regularly she shows up she's a perfect attack ad. Fox have 2.5m viewers BTW.
is_that_so wrote: » If it works electorally, yes. If voters are in states that could go either way that luxury doesn't exist. Gotta tell them what they want to hear.
jochenstacker wrote: » I'd say best Dem strategy would be to appeal to sensible middle ground voters and non voters. Knuckle dragging redneck Trumpers are a lost cause anyway and should just be ignored.
Deleted User wrote: » A reality TV star is president of the United States. I just have to remind myself of that now and then.
RIGOLO wrote: » And you can equally remind yourself how things were going so well when we had the professional politicians running the show. take your pick of any metric of the last 2 decades or more ... 10s of trillions added to the US national debt wars in afghanistan wars in iraq rise of ISIS 600,000 deaths in Syria millions of refugees fleeing their places of birth bank bailouts wall street bailouts the rich poor divide and disparity growing at rates not seen since the early 20th century illegal immigrants in cages in 2014 rise of ms-13 gangs opioid epidemics plastic pollution of the seas green house gases escalation climate issues US - CHINA trade deficit ballooned US - EU trade deficit ballooned the list goes on and on yep your right an ex reality TV star as well as billionaire business man is president of the United States. and to think things were going so well when the career politicians were running the show.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Should I go to an anti Trump website, search for anti Trump bullet points and copy and paste them in response? Nah couldn't be bothered.
RIGOLO wrote: » calling peopel knuckle draggin rednecks is a policy the Democrats already tried more or less. Hilary tried that tactic already , called them deplorables, look where that got here. keep it up, its interesting to hear the viscereal hatred from the left and anti-Trumpers.
RIGOLO wrote: » Thats okay you shouldnt bother, you wont find any site that says anything I had in that post didnt happen when we had career politicians involved. Which was the point being made. The left and anti-Trumpers seem only capable of emoting.
RIGOLO wrote: » calling peopel knuckle draggin rednecks is a policy the Democrats already tried more or less.
pixelburp wrote: » And in case that wasn't clear, remember he defended Mike Pence's [*] visit to the camps by talking about "Great Ratings!". He's always boasting about attendances, numbers, viewers; as you say he's a reality TV star and I guess if Reagan used his Hollywood experience to play the act of the dignified politician, Trump is the manifestation of the superficial age of Reality TV, who craves attention. [*] sidebar: why didn't Trump visit the centres anyway? Given the tattle over Trump's apparent germaphobia, perhaps that's a hint, but surely the obvious win would have been for the President to visit, show some compassion, placate those outraged at these totally-not-concentration camps....
everlast75 wrote: » He has succeeded in unifying the Dems against him. Did you miss the censure from the House yesterday? The Dems debates will start in earnest soon and the attention will be on the candidates. Epstein, Mueller, Stone - all of these things will move matters along very quickly. Don't get me wrong - Fox will fixate as usual on these ladies, but their audience are lost to the voice of reason anyway. A reminder - they are four votes. Only the Trump faithful could equate that to being the "face of the Democrats".
Danzy wrote: » This isn't about the Trump faithful, as you say they are faithful. This is about the 20% in the middle. They don't have to like him just look at the Squad and think anyone but them having access to power. Staying at home would be a result. They are only 4 people, only 4 votes as Nancy Pelosi dismissed them as but do not underestimate the damage they can do to the Democrats.
everlast75 wrote: » This might be the reason he stopped doing those kinds of events...
rossie1977 wrote: » Pelosi is a corporate Democrat who wants the status quo to remain the same which keeps her and her buddies in power. She and other top Democrats along with every Republican politican and most right wing pundits are propped up by corporate and special interest group money. I don't know anything about the other three ladies but AOC's platform of affordable healthcare, jobs guarantee, increase in minimum wage, removing assault/military style weapons from American streets, criminal justice reform, dealing with climate change, cleaning up corruption in Washington, affordable higher education, women's rights, supporting seniors, putting measures in place to make sure things like 2008 financial crash doesn't happen again are issues Americans as a whole not just left wing Democrats are interested in.
An anonymous Democratic group leaked a poll that shows swing voters deeply dislike Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the left wing, widening the party's rift
rossie1977 wrote: » I don't know anything about the other three ladies but AOC's platform of affordable healthcare, jobs guarantee, increase in minimum wage, removing assault/military style weapons from American streets, criminal justice reform, dealing with climate change, cleaning up corruption in Washington, affordable higher education, women's rights, supporting seniors, putting measures in place to make sure things like 2008 financial crash doesn't happen again are issues Americans as a whole not just left wing Democrats are interested in.
RIGOLO wrote: » AOC isnt eligible to run for President for a few more years.
RIGOLO wrote: » AOC has an approval rating in the 20s ... the 20s and the anti-Trumeprs think Trumps high 40s is bad.
RIGOLO wrote: » If the Democrat and anti-Trumpers hopes are pinned on AOC and The Squad they are truly screwed.
Leroy42 wrote: » But strangely enough, it has a lot in common with the platform that Trump himself ran on. Draining the swamp, repeal and replace (Trump claimed everyone would have healthcare), dealing with the justice system (Trump has loaded the judges), getting people work and good paying jobs, VA better deal, better deal for minorties.
Leroy42 wrote: » . The line of "they are both terrible but at least he is less bad" is no longer a runner. So what has Trump to offer now? .
Danzy wrote: » Correct, I'd agree with them on lots of it as well. Cortez did squander a lot of good will with her Green New Deal unfortunately. Pelosi is a corporate Democrat but her interest still remains in having a Democratic President and house , out of her own self interest even. These 4 loopers aren't going to deliver it though.
Danzy wrote: » He is making it a runner by making the 4 crazies the face of the Democrats. Bob Dole used Pat Buchanan as a threat, mad Pat as the candidate that would burn the Party. The Democrats pushed him as the face of the Republicans, in order to damage them. The squad are PBP types, never mind their beliefs, divisive, fight their own side as bitterly as anyone, want things but refuse to plan or say how, attack, negative etc. Life long Trump hating Democrats will walk away from a party where they are considered a powerful force. A bad day for him is one in which they are not on tv.
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