Danzy wrote: » He wants the Dems to rally around AOC and her squad, rather than been cut adrift as Pelosi was aiming for.
FartyBlartFast wrote: » As per your own criteria, you are now mocking Holocaust survivors. Classy. And the sentence makes perfect sense. People who survived concentration camps (both in the US and in flbloody Auschwitz) are saying these children are being put are concentration camps. So do you support putting children in these concentration camps, or are you claiming survivors of the Holocaust are liars?
peddlelies wrote: » FartyBlartFast wrote: » As per your own criteria, you are now mocking Holocaust survivors. Classy. And the sentence makes perfect sense. People who survived concentration camps (both in the US and in flbloody Auschwitz) are saying these children are being put are concentration camps. So do you support putting children in these concentration camps, or are you claiming survivors of the Holocaust are liars? Are they? That's news to me. And you're still not making any sense.
Bloch said the conditions reported at the border camps sound painfully similar to her own. “It’s the same conditions I lived through—we never had soap, but we had water, cold water, and not necessarily a shower. No toilet paper. It was inhuman.” “[In concentration camps] people have no control over their lives,” she continued. “You have to go to sleep when the light goes out, you have to eat when they want you to eat. You can’t express your own thoughts, because you might get penalized for that.” - - - It's mainly because of their (the migrants) color and where they’re coming from. But as a rule, humans are not very nice. People like to always look down on somebody else,” she said. “Instead of when you look down to pull that person up, they shove them down more. They don’t want to identify as human beings with those people and that’s a bad attitude. But it’s a human thing.”
Manic Moran wrote: » It seems that the Republican counterpart to AOC, in terms of social media savvy and publicity, is co-freshman Dan Crenshaw. He's not getting much time on the news, presumably because Trump's not attacking him, but he is quite prolific with the tweets, live-streams and youtube videos, he's crossing my feed a lot recently. He's the most-followed Republican on Twitter. Here's his most recent video, on the NDAA. It hits the various social media bases fairly well. It's short, to the point, in plain english, and casually presented. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNiVX5ccbAw . I expect, much as AOC has managed to do to revitalise a lot of the youth vote in the Democrat side, folks like Crenshaw will be doing the same on the Republican side. The balance of power between the old guard (Pelosi/McConnel etc) and the new guard will eventually change to the new generation, but it won't be for one side only.
Hurrache wrote: » Conveniently ignoring recent statements by the ADL and the head of the ADL I see.
peddlelies wrote: » That sentence/logic doesn't make any sense. Believe what you want, you're not going to change my opinion on the matter.
batgoat wrote: » You accused her of mocking holocaust victims. Survivors of the holocaust have concurred with her as pointed out. Mocking would imply she made of light of the Holocaust in some way, she did not. She had compassion and empathy for children who are actively being neglected. Their human rights are being abused but Trump supporters seem more intent on denigrating those who highlight it. It's a pretty depressing reflection on what US politics has become.
peddlelies wrote: » batgoat wrote: » You accused her of mocking holocaust victims. Survivors of the holocaust have concurred with her as pointed out. Mocking would imply she made of light of the Holocaust in some way, she did not. She had compassion and empathy for children who are actively being neglected. Their human rights are being abused but Trump supporters seem more intent on denigrating those who highlight it. It's a pretty depressing reflection on what US politics has become. Where?
peddlelies wrote: » aloyisious wrote: » Ref Don tweeting about AOC & the other Dem congresswomen, I hope they take it carefully and don't fall for his bait. He's trying to provoke them into a public spat and distract from his failings and whatever may be uncovered during the current investigations into his acquaintances. It was political idiocy. Pelosi and that wing of the Dems were already publicly fighting and it was just heating up with the aoc NYT article, then Trump tweets garbage sticking his nose in and now they're reunited against him. What goes on in that head of his is anyone's guess.
aloyisious wrote: » Ref Don tweeting about AOC & the other Dem congresswomen, I hope they take it carefully and don't fall for his bait. He's trying to provoke them into a public spat and distract from his failings and whatever may be uncovered during the current investigations into his acquaintances.
FartyBlartFast wrote: » Twice. In this exact thread. In the last hour. You carry on pretending to have not seen it though.
peddlelies wrote: » Are they? That's news to me. And you're still not making any sense.https://twitter.com/yadvashem/status/1141267813249835008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1141267813249835008%7Ctwgr%5E393039363b636f6e74726f6c&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jta.org%2Fquick-reads%2Fyad-vashem-tweets-link-to-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-to-learn-about-concentration-campshttps://thehill.com/homenews/house/451172-holocaust-survivor-who-offered-to-tour-auschwitz-with-ocasio-cortez-calls-for "A Holocaust survivor who offered to tour Auschwitz with Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) said she should be removed from Congress for spreading “anti-Semitism, hatred and stupidity.”
“The people on the border aren’t forced to be there — they go there on their own will. If someone doesn’t know the difference, either they’re playing stupid or they just don’t care.”
Ocasio-Cortez publicly rejected the offer after she was urged to participate by Republican Rep. Steve King (Iowa), who previously went on a tour with the group.
peddlelies wrote: » That's possible and if it's true I need to recant my reply to aloyisious, for now I'm going to err on the side of stupidity on his part. I feel like it's way too early to be playing such games, especially when it comes with widespread racism accusations which hold a lot of weight when you look at his comments.
TomOnBoard wrote: » It sounds plausible that this might be a strategy from his reelection team...
TomOnBoard wrote: » On the question of whether there might be any 'logic' behind the racist tweetstorm directed at the 'squad', this caused me to think for a bit: David Axelrod who was Obama's chief election strategist tweeted this earlier "With his deliberate, racist outburst,@realDonaldTrump wants to raise the profile of his targets, drive Dems to defend them and make them emblematic of the entire party. It’s a cold, hard strategy." Basically, it's about energising his heartland supporters who may be drifting away from him, by using the "Reds under the Beds" scare tactics from the 1950s to force them back to him. It sounds plausible that this might be a strategy from his reelection team...
EltonJohn69 wrote: » Ivanka Trump vs AOC 2024 ?
Leroy42 wrote: » Racism should be a big deal
Leroy42 wrote: » Racism should be a big deal. That the GOP seem more interested in themselves rather than the issue is the real problem. What else are they sweeping under the carpet under the guise of party unity?
