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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

Hulk Hands

The comparison was silly. Walsh could be argued as the worst of those three and Mayo sacrificed their best player on Saturday to follow him everywhere. If Walsh jumped into the first row of concrete benches around the edge, Keegan would've hopped in beside him. Hardly conductive to getting easy space and ball

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wirelessdude01

Carol25 wrote:

Iâ€™m away on holidays atm, so a bit out of the loop. But does it seem thereâ€™s more noise coming from Mayo in the media than Kerry? Seems the Kerry crew are keeping very very quiet, worrying...

Kerry crowd had been getting their digs in via the media before the Galway game in anticipation of us winning. Fitzy wasn't exactly circumspect with his articles.

jr86

Deleted User wrote: »

Closer to town, I've always found Ryan's on Camden street to be good for GAA and a nice crowd

Ryan's is great for matches, but it's a Tipperary spot so they'll be showing the Tipp hurling game at the same time Sunday

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Probably out of your way but the 51 on Haddington Road was my go-to for match watching when I lived in Dublin: sparse crowd, big screens tvs turned up loud, show every major event. Decent grub too...

Great shout

RoyalCelt wrote: »

The living room is always packed full of tourists, stags, hens and foreigners who live in Dublin. You'd never get an Irish vibe off it so I'm not surprised it there wouldn't be a big crowd watching the hurling.

Yeah that's what I mean, given their clientele I'd be inclined to think cricket world cup/Wimbledon would be probably prioritised on their big screen over GAA, and GAA would be limited to a small screen in a corner out the front. Maybe I'm wrong, but i wouldn't risk there myself - personally speaking anyway!
Sinnotts will 100% have GAA on big screen(s)

Carol25

An article on RTE sport from Colm Cooper about cynical fouling. Where is Mayo’s push back against all these biased articles in the media this week? Kerry have always been dirty and cynical anytime I’ve seen them play Mayo...

PressRun

Any word on Paddy Durcan? He didn't seem 100% at the end of the Galway game

Cartman78

Any tips on parking in Killarney?

First time ever going down there for a game - will be bringing the young fella again....he's currently on a 100% lifetime Mayo win rate (3 from 3) so hopefully it continues on Sunday :pac::pac::pac::pac:

[Deleted User]

Carol25 wrote: »

An article on RTE sport from Colm Cooper about cynical fouling. Where is Mayo’s push back against all these biased articles in the media this week? Kerry have always been dirty and cynical anytime I’ve seen them play Mayo...

Didn't read that, but there's one on the42 in which he's very complimentary about Cillian O'Connor .

Don't read the comments!

yop

Carol25 wrote: »

An article on RTE sport from Colm Cooper about cynical fouling. Where is Mayo’s push back against all these biased articles in the media this week? Kerry have always been dirty and cynical anytime I’ve seen them play Mayo...

Everyone know how Kerry play at this stage. No one is falling for it.
All top teams do it. Just need to ensure we do a "Donaghy" and keep in the ear of the ref all day.
COC is well able to do it, so lets see if he takes the baton.

Who is reffing?

yop

Deleted User wrote: »

Didn't read that, but there's one on the42 in which he's very complimentary about Cillian O'Connor .

Don't read the comments!

I've read various articles and to be honest none of them actually tell us anything new and its only snippets which have been taken. If the full article is read then the full context is clearer.

We are cynical, we do try to bully teams, we do attack hard. Are we sorry for that? Not a chance in hell.

Loafing Oaf

Kalyke wrote: »

Great name too...

Took me a while:P Hopefully to be renamed the 19 come the autumn...

Pineapple1

yop wrote:

We are cynical, we do try to bully teams, we do attack hard. Are we sorry for that? Not a chance in hell.

Agree. Five years ago we were often criticised for being too nice in matches especially against the likes of Kerry. Now that we have cutened up a bit we are now the dirtiest shower going apparently.

RedDevil55

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Didn't read that, but there's one on the42 in which he's very complimentary about Cillian O'Connor .

Don't read the comments!

Colm Keys has a really good article in the Indo today talking about Cillian. Talks about his rate of scoring against various teams. Cillian's overall average is 6.8 points per game but he averages 7.6 in games v Kerry and 8.5 v Dublin. Only a mere 5.5 v Galway however. No doubt begrudgers will keep saying he only does it against New York and London!

ToBeFrank123

In fairness Tomas O'Se is tipping Mayo, but whether that's cute hoorism you don't know.

His uncle was famous for tipping Kerry's opponents.

Anyways times have moved on and this Mayo team are very level headed and don't heed what's said in the media.

RedDevil55

Paddy Durcan out injured. Connacht Telegraph have the team up.

naughto

Durcan out

Barlett

Still think he'll make an appearance at some stage

km79

Huge blow
Another option gone around the middle

Loafing Oaf

Who is team captain now?

MfMan

jr86 wrote: »

Haha

To be fair a first win in CP and first semi since 2001, first win v Kerry in God knows how long, 2 Connacht titles and completely turned around the Mayo/galway rivalry. Tipperary in 2016 was bad but aside from that the championship exits were against Donegal, Mayo, kerry and Dublin - all top opposition

Job performance wise he deserves another go - imo anyway

However, all the defeats, even this year's really, were by comfortable margins. None bar last year's were at the semi-finals stage and none of Donegal, Tipp or Kerry went on to the final either. There has been no sign of linear progression, just the same ceiling every year. Galway beating Mayo under KW has the feel of Man Utd being able to beat Liverpool back in 'Pool's heyday of the 70s and 80s, didn't do them much good.

We'll discuss more on the Galway thread. Be careful of feuding women with crutches in Killarney.

PressRun

Pace will be important for this game, so Durcan is a huge loss there.

PressRun

Pace will be important for this game, so Durcan is a huge loss there.

charlie14

PressRun wrote: »

Pace will be important for this game, so Durcan is a huge loss there.

I`ll probably get slaughtered for even suggesting this, but if I was Horan I would be tempted to go with Hennelly over Clarke for this one.
The world and it`s mother know at this stage that Mayo have massive injury problems in mid-field plus now Durcan.
Kerry will most likely have Moran back in that sector and will not only be putting the ball from their own restarts in there, but forcing Mayo to do the same by pushing up on Mayo`s. Whatever about their backs, Kerry`s forwards are lethal fast and any restart to a Mayo back that is even slightly off target they will be on to it.

Shot stopping Hennelly is not in the same league as Clarke, but then neither is Clarke in Hennelly`s for restarts.

PARlance

PressRun wrote: »

Pace will be important for this game, so Durcan is a huge loss there.

His kick passing will be missed massively from the last day, moreso than his strong running imo.

It was a cracking ball from him to Carr that set the move up for his 2nd goal and quick ball from him was well employed throughout the game.

PARlance

charlie14 wrote: »

I`ll probably get slaughtered for even suggesting this, but if I was Horan I would be tempted to go with Hennelly over Clarke for this one.
The world and it`s mother know at this stage that Mayo have massive injury problems in mid-field plus now Durcan.
Kerry will most likely have Moran back in that sector and will not only be putting the ball from their own restarts in there, but forcing Mayo to do the same by pushing up on Mayo`s. Whatever about their backs, Kerry`s forwards are lethal fast and any restart to a Mayo back that is even slightly off target they will be on to it.

Shot stopping Hennelly is not in the same league as Clarke, but then neither is Clarke in Hennelly`s for restarts.

Wasn't brave enough to suggest Hennelly starting but I did mention that Kerry will target our short kickouts. Someone suggested that they would play a sweeper so they wouldn't be pushing up.... but I just can't see them not trying to exploit them tbh. There's far too much game intelligence in Kerry for them to let us have easy possession from them imo.

Rochford had developed an excellent approach to Clarkes kick-outs when up against Dublin and their press. Can't recall the exact game but remember that we had almost 100% success in one of the drawn games. It basically involved a ploy of 6 or 7 us bunching up in the middle and then making predetermined runs.

We saw 1 glimpse of it vs Galway late on the last day and I don't think it worked. Will be interesting to see if it has been worked upon. One things is for sure, the better teams will see our kickouts as a weakness to be exploited.

After saving the peno, we gave away 2 quick points from kick-outs straight away. Clarke's strength and weakness in a 5 min spell.

naughto

The high ball in is what Kerry will do if hennelly is anywhere near the goal and he will sh1te his togs.
Clark has his weakness surecwith the kick outs but not to the stent that I would even consider hennelly.
Kerry prob will have a sweeper cos they will fear or forwards Cohen/Carr coc. Against cork they got cut open very easy hopefully it continues on Sunday

Always_Running

A very experienced team if Mayo start as named on the Con Telegraph. Only new or newish players are McDonagh,Carr and the Coen brothers in the starting 15. Seems like Durcan will miss just one match and Ruane,D O'Connor will likely see action in the other group games. After using the scenic route to get the last 8 Mayo now look primed and ready to attack the business end of the championship head on once more.

jr86

It'll be interesting to see does the non knock-out element make any difference

i recall the opening games last year being very much a damp squib.

For some reason i have a bad enough feeling about Sunday, but at the same time if we need a result against donegal I expect us to get it

PressRun

charlie14 wrote: »

I`ll probably get slaughtered for even suggesting this, but if I was Horan I would be tempted to go with Hennelly over Clarke for this one.
The world and it`s mother know at this stage that Mayo have massive injury problems in mid-field plus now Durcan.
Kerry will most likely have Moran back in that sector and will not only be putting the ball from their own restarts in there, but forcing Mayo to do the same by pushing up on Mayo`s. Whatever about their backs, Kerry`s forwards are lethal fast and any restart to a Mayo back that is even slightly off target they will be on to it.

Shot stopping Hennelly is not in the same league as Clarke, but then neither is Clarke in Hennelly`s for restarts.

It wouldn't really surprise me if he did that. I've always felt Horan prefers Henelly because of the kickout issue.

ToBeFrank123

charlie14 wrote: »

I`ll probably get slaughtered for even suggesting this, but if I was Horan I would be tempted to go with Hennelly over Clarke for this one.
The world and it`s mother know at this stage that Mayo have massive injury problems in mid-field plus now Durcan.
Kerry will most likely have Moran back in that sector and will not only be putting the ball from their own restarts in there, but forcing Mayo to do the same by pushing up on Mayo`s. Whatever about their backs, Kerry`s forwards are lethal fast and any restart to a Mayo back that is even slightly off target they will be on to it.

Shot stopping Hennelly is not in the same league as Clarke, but then neither is Clarke in Hennelly`s for restarts.

I really don't get this. Hennelly had a great league, but...

Now that COC is back, he won't be taking any more long range frees if he was playing and better to play it short than take the very long range frees anyways which go wide a lot.

He often has a clanger in his locker which costs goals at crucial times in games.

His kickouts are not always vastly superior to Clarkes. Remember 2016 final when they want wrong several times with one leading to Keegans black card.

I have a degree of sympathy for Hennelly and Clarke. Its hard for one to get a good run as number 1 keeper but when you chop and change neither gets enough game time to be reliable. Better to stick with Clarke this year. Next year maybe go with Hennelly for the whole championship and only drop him if he's really poor.

Loafing Oaf

Always_Running wrote: »

A very experienced team if Mayo start as named on the Con Telegraph. Only new or newish players are McDonagh,Carr and the Coen brothers

So very much a county for old men then!:P

jr86

Always_Running wrote: »

A very experienced team if Mayo start as named on the Con Telegraph. Only new or newish players are McDonagh,Carr and the Coen brothers in the starting 15. Seems like Durcan will miss just one match and Ruane,D O'Connor will likely see action in the other group games. After using the scenic route to get the last 8 Mayo now look primed and ready to attack the business end of the championship head on once more.

Coens are cousins - I assume first cousins?