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Homeless junky aggression

mondeo

I think homeless junkies around parts of Dublin are making them awkward areas to walk around. Alot of them don't just sit there anymore, they are getting up and harrassing you for money, following you down the street to a certain point. Walking out of work today to have a clearly homeless junky ball of a young fella following me to the point where I get in my car. He wouldn't F off! Ain't my fault your a homeless junky drugged up to your fckn eyes dude! Go ask help at the social welfare.... They will give you free money every week, a free house, all sorts of other benefits. Great crack all together, no pun intended!

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Infernal Racket

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

Exactly, suggesting that you didn't know yourself. If you knew it all Inspector Clueso I'm sure you would've shared your knowledge with us instead of defending an inept police force at every opportunity.

Read it any way you like sir and keep taking those pot shots if it makes you feel better about yourself.

[Deleted User]

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

It's the ones that cause a public nuisance with free reign in the inner city that we have a problem with. Most of them would rob their own granny.

I experienced theft myself a few weeks ago. I even wrote about it here. Someone (presumably an addict) stole my luggage full of clothes and kinda ruined a trip I was about to go on.

So, I'm not living in some parallel universe. I understand that petty crime is correlated with homelessness and addiction. I'm just saying, there's no need to panic when you see a homeless person.

You shouldn't leave precious belongings in front of them, but you don't need to run back to the suburbs either. Most homeless people are ordinary, decent folk just like anyone else.

A lot of the commentary about them borders on the hysterical. I really don't know how some people manage to cross the street.

Jimmy McGill

Gerry G wrote: »

Incorrect Jimmy, I asked another poster what powers the guards have to deal with them. You're not very good at this game are you? If you read a little more carefully rather than throwing out the old cliches, you might just learn a little.

Exactly, suggesting that you didn't know yourself. If you knew it all Inspector Clueso I'm sure you would've shared your knowledge with us instead of defending an inept police force at every opportunity.

Guy:Incognito

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

They're mostly from horrible backgrounds from horrible areas surrounded by horrible people and no one ever really cared about them. When heroin addiction is where you end up I'd probably be pretty angry with the world too.

So you're saying theres plenty of people he could legitimately be annoyed at and abuse with just cause instead of harassing innocent people on the street going about their day?

Infernal Racket

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

I'm sure you were. A couple of pages back you didn't know what powers the garda have to deal with junkies.

Incorrect Jimmy, I asked another poster what powers the guards have to deal with them. You're not very good at this game are you? If you read a little more carefully rather than throwing out the old cliches, you might just learn a little.

Beechwoodspark

When I say scoundrel I mean

The worst of the worst of the worst.

Jimmy McGill

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

There was a homeless person living near my old flat in Portobello. I used to see him sitting alone on the benches near Portobello College, in the middle of the night, or sleeping on the canal benches.

Then someone gave him a tent, and he used to live there for a while. He was very friendly with the local community. I don't want to say too much about him as anyone local probably knows who I'm talking about, but he was a lovely guy and, in fact, a nice neighbour.

There was nothing intimidating about him at all. I really think a lot of the people who are frightened by the homeless would baulk at their own shadow. Poverty isn't catching, you know.

It's the ones that cause a public nuisance with free reign in the inner city that we have a problem with. Most of them would rob their own granny.

AnMuinteoirOg

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Gay pride parade a couple of weeks ago was covered with them.

There is also one permanently on the GPO

Beechwoodspark

A lot of them wouldn’t work in a fit but are the worst scoundrels and thieves for anything not secure.

donkeykong5

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

Genuinely can't remember the last time I seen the Garda patrolling on foot around the city centre. It used to be a common sight up until circa 2008, now you never see them anymore.

Gay pride parade a couple of weeks ago was covered with them.

[Deleted User]

There was a homeless person living near my old flat in Portobello. I used to see him sitting alone on the benches near Portobello College, in the middle of the night, or sleeping on the canal benches.

Then someone gave him a tent, and he used to live there for a while. He was very friendly with the local community. I don't want to say too much about him as anyone local probably knows who I'm talking about, but he was a lovely guy and, in fact, a nice neighbour.

There was nothing intimidating about him at all. I really think a lot of the people who are frightened by the homeless would baulk at their own shadow. Poverty isn't catching, you know.

Jimmy McGill

Gerry G wrote: »

I was one for many years, now gladly retired. Unlike you, I didnt rely on the herald for my information.

I'm sure you were. A couple of pages back you didn't know what powers the garda have to deal with junkies.

Beechwoodspark

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

They should be banned from the city centre and detained in some sort of drying out detention centre if they don't observe the ban.

Fully agree

As I said a few weeks ago

Drug users detained into a secure location for treatment.

Long term unemployed detained in a secure location working on some tasks

Free travel - no way.

Do some work and get clean before asking for even the most basic hand out

AnMuinteoirOg

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

You really believe they only watch it during their break? Especially if a sergeant or higher up rank isn't around? All on tax payers money to boot

And do you have any proof that the don't? Or are you just making a wild accusation?

Infernal Racket

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

You won't make the detective unit anyway.

I was one for many years, now gladly retired. Unlike you, I didnt rely on the herald for my information.

Infernal Racket

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

https://www.herald.ie/news/probe-as-gardai-spend-62000-of-taxpayers-money-on-tv-packages-34908308.html

So some Garda stations have a tv? Shocker. What about the pool tables, where do they come into it? I understand you're just one of these people who like to have a pop. I have no interest in that. I prefer to engage with adults in reasonable debate.

Jimmy McGill

AnMuinteoirOg wrote: »

Their entitled to a 45 min break during their shift. Would you like them to stare at the wall during their break?

You really believe they only watch it during their break? Especially if a sergeant or higher up rank isn't around? All on tax payers money to boot

Jimmy McGill

You won't make the detective unit anyway.

Jimmy McGill

Gerry G wrote: »

Every garda station has a pool table and sky sports? Really Jimmy? Really? I'd like to see you backing up this "fact"? Can you do that for us?

https://www.herald.ie/news/probe-as-gardai-spend-62000-of-taxpayers-money-on-tv-packages-34908308.html

AnMuinteoirOg

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

The difference being that its a fact that garda stations have pool tables and sky sports, Garda Gerry.

Their entitled to a 45 min break during their shift. Would you like them to stare at the wall during their break?

James Brown

Ah the junkies is alright

In my experience the Garda don't want to get involved with them. The boardwalk in Dublin needs to be patrolled.

Infernal Racket

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

The difference being that its a fact that garda stations have pool tables and sky sports, Garda Gerry.

Every garda station has a pool table and sky sports? Really Jimmy? Really? I'd like to see you backing up this "fact"? Can you do that for us?

Jimmy McGill

https://www.herald.ie/news/probe-as-gardai-spend-62000-of-taxpayers-money-on-tv-packages-34908308.html

Jimmy McGill

Gerry G wrote: »

That I cant answer which I'm sure you probably cant anyway. It's like the Garda loving their doughnuts thing. I've never actually seen a garda in a doughnut shop or even eating a doughnut but it sounds good to some people to spout these things.

The difference being that its a fact that garda stations have pool tables and sky sports, Garda Gerry.

Atlantic Dawn

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Dublin needs a "hamsterdam", let them roam free in their natural environment away from decent people.

We already have this, it's the boardwalk area, drugs smoked the dealt daily between 9-5, also cans of alcohol drank openly. I've yet to pass it where laws are not openly been broken.

Infernal Racket

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

So what about the pool tables and sky sports in garda stations thing?

That I cant answer which I'm sure you probably cant anyway. It's like the Garda loving their doughnuts thing. I've never actually seen a garda in a doughnut shop or even eating a doughnut but it sounds good to some people to spout these things.

Jimmy McGill

Gerry G wrote: »

Yeah yeah, it's all been said before. The checkpoints thing is great pr dreamed up by senior managers. Looks great on the rte news etc etc. Mostly done by traggic corps guards who wont be walking the beat stopping junkies

So what about the pool tables and sky sports in garda stations thing?

Infernal Racket

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

The man/woman power IS there. It is just not utilised proficiently. But what do I know I am not Drew Harris either.

But he is on a five year contract I think. And needs to see what is going on regarding crap computerised initiatives and so on. I have no idea what goes on in a Garda station (obviously), but good top management would sort all that crap out stat. If they were good managers.

The will is not there it seems. I had good vibes for Harris, hope he will deliver.

Often wondered if there would be any benefit in having Regional autonomy within the Gardai, yes, I know, corruption etc. But not every city is as large and diverse as Dublin and it really needs its own Garda Force suitably funded now. It is so obvious.

No, even including mismanagement the numbers are not there. I live in a town with approx 13,000 people. At any given time we are lucky to have one patrol car out and about, at the weekends maybe 2 if overtime is paid

RobbieMD

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

The man/woman power IS there. It is just not utilised proficiently. But what do I know I am not Drew Harris either.

Ireland has one of the lowest ratios of police per population in Europe.

Then factor in that we use Gardai for jobs normally done by other state agencies and I imagine the manpower isn’t there.

Infernal Racket

Jimmy McGill wrote: »

They seem to have plenty of time for checkpoints and watching sky sports/playing pool in the station

Yeah yeah, it's all been said before. The checkpoints thing is great pr dreamed up by senior managers. Looks great on the rte news etc etc. Mostly done by traggic corps guards who wont be walking the beat stopping junkies