Walter Bishop wrote: » The optics might be poor but it should be fairly obvious by now that the likes of Johnson, Trump, and their supporters don’t really care about that sort of thing.
Leroy42 wrote: » Farage is in no way, shape or form even remotely honest.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Is he honest compared to most politicians? No. But 'honest' is a relative term. Relative to Trump and Johnson, Farage is relatively honest.
dr.fuzzenstein wrote: » Farage is bankrolled by very shady characters, his motivations are very unclear (or are they?) and he has committed serious fraud by embezzeling a salary from the EU for his "assistant"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/25/eu-watchdog-considering-nigel-farage-investigation-arron-bankshttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/12/nigel-farage-eu-salary-docked-claim-misspent-public-funds He is a liar, a fraud and a thief. He could possibly be a traitor. He goes way beyond dishonest and even beyond criminal. Nigel Farage should end up in prison for a long, long time.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » So should Trump. Having listened to all three speak on various occasions, my impression is that Farage mostly believes what he says because he is the most committed to his cause - i.e. Brexit. Trump and Johnson will say anything as long as it pleases their base - they don't have any real political motivation other than personal ambition. Again, this doesn't make Farage an honest person.
duploelabs wrote: » Just like BoJo and Drump
MadYaker wrote: » I don’t think trump is going to get caught up in the Epstein scandal, if he had anything to fear from it he’d surely be going mental about it on twitter or cooking up some distraction.
peddlelies wrote: » Accusations and scandals bounce off Trump like he has an invisible shield, but being involved somehow with Jeffrey Epstein's child molestation/trafficking would be a bridge too far, even for him. He wouldn't survive it, no matter the distraction. Nobody would.
Dog Man Star wrote: » He is involved. As is Alan Dershowitz, his #1 legal lackey on Fox News. Tip of the iceberg at the moment.
peddlelies wrote: » You should probably stop stating things as fact when you have no real evidence to back them up, like I said before it's easy to say such things when accountability isn't a factor. In other news AOC has called for the abolishment of the DHS.
RIGOLO wrote: » Actually if your a Democrat ex-President and you invited Jefferey Epstein to the wedding of your daughter and your name is Bill Clinton, you would survive being involved with Jefferey Epstein. In fact not only would you survive it for upteen years , given the connections between Bill Clinton and Epstein were first reported back in early to mid 2000s, but you would go on to be lauded and feted by the liberal left . The history has already been written on that story, Bill Clinton prospered post all the accusations back to early 2000s of connections with Epstein, flights , mega donor money, Clinton Foundation funding. The main stream liberal left biased media virtually ignored that story as it was one of their own. So yeah if you were a Democrat leading light, sure you would survive a long running and frequent association with scum like Epstein , its already been proven you would.
duploelabs wrote: » I think the previous two posters think that just because they're Democrats then they shouldn't be investigated. Anyone, absolutely anyone, regardless of affiliation or political loyalty should be investigated should the evidence warrent it. So can we leave it at that?
RIGOLO wrote: » So the immigration issue has come full circle on the Democrats. To such a degree that Democrats are now posting pictures of children in cages from the Obama era . Well they posted the pictures to have a pop at the Trump Administration.. but once the Democrats realised they were from 2014 ( I wonder who was president then) they did a quick scramble to un-post them . Typical anti Trump brigade tactics .. Obama puts children in detention cages .. well its not a news story nothing to see here lets just ignore it all. The DHS under the Trump Administration does the same thing and suddenly all the Obama , left liberal anti-Trumpers supporters are humanitarians screaming blue murder. The history has already been written on that hypocrisy, theres no getting away from it.https://www.apnews.com/a98f26f7c9424b44b7fa927ea1acd4d4
MrFresh wrote: » That seems to be over a year old.
Igotadose wrote: » Uhh, I think the other Trumper you're responding to, was talking about 'involved' as in 'involved in his depravaties.' Not, "having acquaintance/business dealings/inviting to parties'. Hope that clarifies it for you. Do you have any proof that Clinton was involved with the depravities that Epstein is accused of? For the record, we've seen nothing indicating either Clinton, Dershowitz, Randy Andy or Trump were. There's accusations and innuendo galore, and there is a rape allegation against Trump is all so far. On a different note, one you keep ignoring, what would you have done at the end of 2008 to fix the US economy, which was hemorrhaging jobs and needed an $800bn infusion from Treasury to keep from seizing up, per Hank Paulson, then the treasury secretary?
Christy42 wrote: » Wasn't it also wrong a year ago?
batgoat wrote: » Rigolo broke it as if it was a new story that was a new news item... It isn't.
The Democrat House Oversight and Reform Committee deleted tweets showing pictures of migrants behind fencing that were taken in 2014. The pictures were part of graphics that criticized President Trump's handling of the crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border.
RIGOLO wrote: » You need to check your facts ... The treasury had over $4.5 TRILLION on its balance sheet by the end of QE1, QE2 and QE3 in 2014, having started the program in 2008 with an intiial balance sheet of 750 billion. So I dont know where you got your 800billion from , cos the Fed was pumping 30 billion a month into Wall Street for the bulk of Obamas Presidency .
You seem to agree with Hank Paulsen, you seem to think it was a good idea to pump 30billion a month into Wall Street in what many have called the greatest transfer of wealth in history, whilst punshing middle class savers with 0 or even negative interest rates, and all the time effectively adding 8Trillion to the US national debt which is now rolling over at interest rates far in excess of when this money was conned out of American workers. And we dont even have to get into just how many (some say 0 some say 1) Wall St bankers faced Jail Time for the fraud that was the 2008 recession. Its a free country, your allowed to agree with all of that . I dont .
everlast75 wrote: » Rigolo, For the record, if Clinton is involved in any way with Epstein's crimes, he should be locked up. Can you confirm the same should apply to Trump?