opus wrote: » Hopefully the old Odlums building will get redeveloped as it could be fantastic. Definitely worth preserving unlike the Sextant (imho)
leahyl wrote: » Was thinking the same thing; got a pang of sadness when I thought of it being knocked :pac::)
Markcheese wrote: » Isn't it listed? (Well the frontage anyway), it'd be a pretty crap architect who couldnt include that frontage into a landmark building... The halls grain silo, well that's different, I'm sure it could be kept, and I wouldn't be against keeping it if there was a decent use for it, but Its probably coming down, and I doubt there'll be too many tears..
questionmark? wrote: » Great that it's OCP as they usually mean business.
fonecrusher1 wrote: » Sure didn't they build Robocop in only a few months.
trackrunner wrote: » https /postimg.cc/7JNKMJf9 https /postimg.cc/Fffn5KBF Due for completion summer 2020 Can't embed images or post proper links as new user so delete the space.
snotboogie wrote: » That’s the Faranlee Rd Student Accom?
Irish Examiner wrote: A 1960s former office block in one of Cork’s most desirable residential areas is to undergo a €10m conversion into a local authority downsizing housing project.City councillors have sanctioned an amended Part 8 plan to adapt and extend the former Springville House in Blackrock, and then change its use to facilitate the development of 35 residential units within the fabric of the existing office building.
snotboogie wrote: » “But OCP's vision for the site at the centre of today's deal, which is spread across several Origin landbanks running east along the south docks from Albert Quay, will include offices, retail and commercial elements along with 40% set aside for residential.”
I’ve heald off on the Q2 summary due to an insane work schedule and I’ll now give the custom house tower till the end of next week before I’ll update, unless I get an unexpected burst of free time before then.
Markcheese wrote: » While I'd be personally thrilled to see some of the above road projects built, and concerned by others (nimbyism), it does kind of show that the more roads built, the more the public have little choice but to use them, proper public transport and city/urban housing would seriously help.. The mainstay of that in cork is always gonna be the bus, and they're currently crap...
Lackadaisical wrote: » I don't think there will be either while urban transit is not managed by urban government. Ireland's shockingly over centralised and it's killing the cities (including Dublin) because they've no meaningful control over their infrastructure. It's all quangos like the NTA, CIE or national politics. I mean look at the ludicrous situation where an independent TD from Athlone has more influence over the development of flood defences in Cork than anyone in this city. Until you change that, our cities will always be somewhat dysfunctional mediocrities. Even that executive mayor proposal was just kind of thrown at us without adequate explanation or any clear notion of what (if anything) was being devolved. It's hardly surprising it wasn't supported by the plebiscite.
Lackadaisical wrote: » The issue is more that the cities have always had public transit imposed from upon high. There's no urbanism without proper urban government. The electorate and councillors have never had to really take responsibility for the city in modern times, so there's a tendency to just use local democracy as a protest vote against something being perceived as being imposed from upon high, rather than the city taking pride in building out its own transit infrastructure.
marno21 wrote: » There's a pressing need for both for different reasons. ALL approach roads (national roads) into Cork are operating at motorway levels, from Mallow, Castlemartyr, west of Ovens, Inishannon, Cork Airport and Shannonpark. None of these are at the required standard to deal with existing volumes, let alone to cater for growth. Freight will also not be moved using buses or bicycles, something the Green Party often seem to forget.
hans aus dtschl wrote: » Freight's not really the biggest problem that exists though. Heavy freight isn't really wanted in city centres and freight's just a fraction of all journeys, mostly on N40, M8 and N25. The biggest offenders in cork are commuter cars, by far. I think around 67% of our commuters use car. Many of the approach roads to Cork are highly-trafficked because of a lack of alternatives. As I said earlier, the current strategy is car car car and another 950 million cars. So we need roads upgrades around the city (NRR, Dunkettle, etc) but within the metropolitan area itself we need to stop trying to jam more cars in. Two totally different problems.
hans aus dtschl wrote: » We can't keep going with this notion that we can get more cars into Cork. It doesn't matter whether they're electric or not, there's a limit. Flaring a roundabout wider or narrowing a footpath to fit another lane is just not going to work.
who_me wrote: » I think we still could be smarter though over our "car management" though. The traffic volume isn't a permanent issue 24/7 and 12 months of the year, it's a major issue at school and business rush hours, during sports/music events, and during the school months. But dramatically lower at others. Instead of (IMO, simplistic, ham-fisted) approaches like reducing car parking spaces and car lanes; car bans or 'car taxes' etc., we should look to reducing traffic flow at the peak times. e.g. reduce car parking spaces at office developments far more than residential developments, so people can still own a car for various uses but will be disinclined to drive during rush-hour.
Lackadaisical wrote: » I don't think there will be either while urban transit is not managed by urban government. Ireland's shockingly over centralised and it's killing the cities (including Dublin) because they've no meaningful control over their infrastructure. It's all quangos like the NTA, CIE or national politics.
marno21 wrote: » Freight is a problem when it's causing congestion on the approach roads and rattling through villages. A Type 1 DC is a relatively low cost win win solution for these roads. Ireland is not a poor country we should be able to afford it. I agree there should be a targeted removal of cars from the city centre, the North Ring Road would help here. However, cars will still be prevalent in the suburbs and in the towns surrounding the city. That's the way development has gone in the city and it will be difficult to reverse. The only roads within the N40 ring that should be progressed are the Docklands infrastructure, and the Northern and Southern distributors. These are multimodal corridors through rather than for increasing car traffic. Keep the heavy traffic on and outside the N40. But there would still be a need for M22, M25 and M71 feeders into the N40.,
