Seanachai wrote: That's fair enough, I don't like the thought of any prayers from any faith being said over my food.
King Mob wrote: » Speaking of...Going to go back and address that bit where you claimed articles and people said stuff they didn't? Bit dishonest to do that, then promptly ignore when people point out that you did that.
“This was a commercial decision, not the result of any public pressure or backlash.”
Seanachai wrote: » I haven't set foot inside a church in years, I can understand somebody with Christian, Hindu or another faith not wanting Muslim prayers said over their food though.
Seanachai wrote: » That's fair enough, I don't like the thought of any prayers from any faith being said over my food.
recedite wrote: » Or are you trying to say that public tastes and pressure have no effect on the commercial decisions of a company like Kelloggs? Because that is simply nonsense. And I realise you have focused in on this one quote from a company spokesperson...
King Mob wrote: » First things first,You said that Kelloggs did not deny that public pressure played a role.Could you please explain why you claimed this in spite of what the article said? Did you not realise that the article said this? Could you also now confirm that when Kellogg said:“This was a commercial decision, not the result of any public pressure or backlash.” They are in fact lying?
King Mob wrote: » Could you also address why you claimed to be quoting "the muslim" guy when nothing like what you said he said appears in either of the articles you posted. It's very very dishonest of you, and makes you a bit of a hypocrite to be whinging about honesty.
recedite wrote: » Similarly I have stopped buying Brennans bread, but I will resume when/if they stop paying money to the Islamic Foundation of Ireland. *I don't have to know what that foundation is spending the money on.* I just know they are not getting my money.
Sonic_exyouth wrote: » Have you made any effort to find out? Its a registered charity with the Charities regulator, meaning it is subject to regular audit.https://www.charitiesregulator.ie/en/information-for-the-public/search-the-charities-register/charity-detail?srchstr=Islamic%20Foundation%20of%20Ireland®id=20012809 It's Activities are listed as Promotion of community Promotion of support to charities sector Religious activities Beneficiaries Adult training Asylum seekers/refugees Community services Ethnic minorities Ex-offenders and prisoners Family services Health promotion Homeless services Humanitarian relief services Integration of those who are disadvantaged into society Mental health support Overseas aid Volunteers
Sonic_exyouth wrote: » "bend over backwards" = Putting a small little symbol on a piece of food packaging to try increase sales.
Blueshoe wrote: » No thanks. Manufacturers won't roll out placing the symbol on their products as they know sales will decrease.
The Nal wrote: » Quite literally the exact oppositeMakeup, meds and sports wear: Why halal has become big businesshttps://www.foreigner.fi/articulo/business/halal-growing-regulated-market-and-great-business-opportunity/20190109153131001071.htmlhttps://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/nov/11/food-and-drink-manufacturers-have-no-plans-to-ditch-halal-certification Etc etc.
Blueshoe wrote: » The guardian? Pull the other one The link above it tells us how many Muslims there are and will be and halal is great business for them. That's obvious isn't it. Unless you are accepting that everywhere will eventually have huge Muslim populations which would make Halal the obvious choice.
The Nal wrote: » Well it wasn't ten minutes ago when you posted "Manufacturers won't roll out placing the symbol on their products as they know sales will decrease" despite the actual facts, the evidence, the proof, showing the exact opposite.
Blueshoe wrote: » The symbol is an indication that the method of butchering the animal was changed to suit Islamic culture and beliefs No thanks. Manufacturers won't roll out placing the symbol on their products as they know sales will decrease.
Seanachai wrote: » I'm not going to try and convince you of something you have no experience of, except to say that anybody that truly adheres to the scientific method would have an agnostic position on the subject. It isn't 'settled-science' as they say.
Sonic_exyouth wrote: » How many animals do you think were killed to make your batch loaf ?!
Sonic_exyouth wrote: » Its also about the growing export market. As a small open economy, we are very reliant on exports, and alternatives to the UK to diversify customer bases to prevent Brexit shock are actively being saught in many industries.
Joeytheparrot wrote: » Who knew the conspiracy theories provided so much comedy.
Blueshoe wrote: » Why are we entertaining them doing it then? Why not tell them to take their fairy tales elsewhere. Because some people want to bend over backwards to accommodate them. Sad
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » The same reason we entertain catholics when the want to hold candle lit vigils in public places (outside the dail, GPO, etc). Should they be told to take their fairytales elsewhere as well? Or should we let them because "some people want to bend over backwards to accommodate them"?
The Nal wrote: » Quite literally the exact oppositeMakeup, meds and sports wear: Why halal has become big businessHalal, a growing regulated market and a great business opportunityFood and drink manufacturers ‘have no plans’ to ditch halal certification Etc etc. 2.2 million Muslims in the world in 30 years. Anyone not concerned with Halal certification is a moron. Are you concerned about Halal certification?
recedite wrote: » Lets see Brennan's openly put the Halal symbol on their bread then. Let the market decide. All we want to see here is a bit of honesty.
recedite wrote: » Anyone not concerned about Islamic takeover in western society is a moron.
recedite wrote: » Anyone concerned about Islamic takeover in western society is a moron.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Fixed that for you;)
circadian wrote: » Anyone convinced of an Islamic takeover of western society is a moron.
The Nal wrote: » lol Yeah huge amounts running for political office isn't there? Huge amount running large corporations. Theres been a slight increase in Muslims running for political office based on the fact that they're hated so much and they want a voice. Im no fan of religion but the anti Muslim thing is the easiest way to get thickos to follow you. Trump, Hopkins, Gemtrails etc. Line 1 in the playbook. Its so easy to sell an ideology to morons and to profit from it. Gemma is tears laughing at her followers as her bank balance increases. Must be saying "how are people so stupid, this is so easy". She even provides you with the link so you don't have to type "youtube" yourself. The thickos need to be spoon fed. Like, well, like sheep.