Blueshoe wrote: » Why would you call someone a racist for not buying bread?
King Mob wrote: » But that's not my position. That's a very childish misrepresentation you've slapped together in place of any actual arguments. You've already agreed that racism is a reason for why at least some people would avoid halal certified bread. Not sure why you're asking me this question when you know and agree with the answer.
Blueshoe wrote: » One of many possible reasons.
Blueshoe wrote: » Would you like to see halal certification symbols on food products?
The Nal wrote: » Gemma implies to her ignorant racist lot that there are hoards of fresh off the boat evil immigrants shouting "death to the infidel" over our good ol' Irish bread. The reality is that halal bread isn't "blessed" like holy bread or wine. All it means is that the bread doesn't have animal fat in the shortening for example. Other things like lard, alcohol etc aren't allowed either. ie the ingredients adhere to whats allowed in a Muslim (and in a lot of cases Irish vegetarian) diet. A whole load of nothing basically but Brennans is such an Irish thing that its easy for her to appeal to her pathetic thicko followers using Brennans as the whip. Easy pickings for her when you're dealing with people who are so stupid and easily manipulated.
Seanachai wrote: » That's fair enough, I don't like the thought of any prayers from any faith being said over my food.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » One wonders how many have this attitude yet take communion in church?
recedite wrote: » Why would you wonder?It seems obvious they would be unlikely to attend either a church or a mosque.
Blueshoe wrote: » Catholic people might avoid it because they are a different religion
Seanachai wrote: » I haven't set foot inside a church in years, I can understand somebody with Christian, Hindu or another faith not wanting Muslim prayers said over their food.
circadian wrote: » Maybe I picked this up wrong, but are you suggesting there's an Imam at the exit to the factory blessing all the bread?!?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Why though? They are just words, they are not magical, they don't make anything taste different. I honestly think it's a very childish reason to use.
Seanachai wrote: » That's your opinion, neither of us can prove it either way. My position and experience is that prayer and ritual do have metaphysical power, I can't prove this to you. If there was a mage doing Solomonic rites over food, even people with no spiritual beliefs would probably be a bit uncomfortable.
Seanachai wrote: » I haven't set foot inside a church in years, I can understand somebody with Christian, Hindu or another faith not wanting Muslim prayers said over their food though.
recedite wrote: » Islamic prayers are in integral part of Halal slaughtering. Paying money over to the Islamic Foundation of Ireland is an integral part of marketing Halal certified bread.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » are they an integral part of the making of halal bread? at what point in the bread making process are the prayers said?
King Mob wrote: » But magic isn't real though... Either way, no prayer is being used on halal certified bread, so you are safe from the evil magic. This has gotten very silly indeed.
Seanachai wrote: » I'm not going to try and convince you of something you have no experience of, except to say that anybody that truly adheres to the scientific method would have an agnostic position on the subject. It isn't 'settled-science' as they say.
Blueshoe wrote: » Why are we entertaining them doing it then? Why not tell them to take their fairy tales elsewhere. Because some people want to bend over backwards to accommodate them. Sad
recedite wrote: » Obviously not,
recedite wrote: » A blatantly dishonest form of debate.
recedite wrote: » Obviously not, but you go ahead and create the strawman anyway. Then you can have some fun over the next few pages laughing at all the non-existent "stupid" people your strawman represents. Its what you have been doing throughout this thread. A blatantly dishonest form of debate.
Sonic_exyouth wrote: » "bend over backwards" = Putting a small little symbol on a piece of food packaging to try increase sales.