ToBeFrank123 wrote: » By "democratic processes of the GAA", I take it the poster means a gun held to GAA counties head to the effect if they take Dublin out of Croke Park they get less funds? That appears to be the process in Leinster anyways. Yet Dublin's development funds are largely ring fenced and don't appear to depend at all on how many people fill Croke Park in the Leinster championship.
doc_17 wrote: » Leinster Council. Headed up until a year or so ago by John Horan. Take Dublin out of Croke Park and the counties were told they’d get less money. Then, when they did make them play an odd game outside of CP they played in neutral venues. The whole thing is a joke in Leinster at the minute and a large part of the problem lies with the other counties not having the balls to stand up to the GAA
Jaden wrote: » doc_17 wrote: » Leinster Council. Headed up until a year or so ago by John Horan. Take Dublin out of Croke Park and the counties were told they’d get less money. Then, when they did make them play an odd game outside of CP they played in neutral venues. The whole thing is a joke in Leinster at the minute and a large part of the problem lies with the other counties not having the balls to stand up to the GAA Horan was Chairman from 11-14, not last year, but it's a minor point. So the Leinster council hold a gun to the Leinster council's head, and demand that the Leinster council do as the Leinster council says, as regards where Dublin (and other Leinster counties) play in the LFC. And if they don't, the Leinster council will give members of the Leinster council less money? Are you sure that's how it works?
doc_17 wrote: » Who says it works like that? I certainly didn’t. The Leinster counties vote to keep Dublin in Croke Park to generate funding. The Leinster council and the Leinster counties aren’t the same thing.
RoyalCelt wrote: » Even Dublin fans now say Dublin should play less in Croker. Only the Leinster final should be in Croker. The super 8 should be one at home, 1 away and the 3rd neutral in a venue between the two competing counties. Realistically Dublin should only play league final, Leinster final, all Ireland semi and final in Croker. That would be 4 trips a year assuming they are getting to all major finals. It wouldn't completely over saturate the experience and their players wouldn't feel like it's their proper home. It might also encourage the Dublin County board to get their finger out and build a stadium suitable for their needs.
salmocab wrote: » Whilst I don’t really care about the games out of Croke park what size stadium do you think Dublin should build? A 30,000 on the spawell site was talked about and that would be great but it would seem like a massive waste of money to build a stadium that’s only needed 5 or 6 times a year. The hurlers don’t need much more than Parnell park can hold so it’s only needed for 3 or 4 home league games for the footballers and maybe 2 or 3 championship games between the footballers and hurlers. Obviously the hurlers would move in but it wouldn’t be needed. This would cost millions and it would only be built to stop people moaning about the dubs in Croke park. That just seems a waste to me.
Dots1982 wrote: » Ideally Dublin GAA would join up with a soccer team in the capital or Leinster Rugby and it would become a stadium that both could use. Unfortunately that probably won’t happen as Domestic soccer is too small time. Maybe Leinster rugby would be interested but they have Anglesey road and the Aviva from big games so don’t need it. That’s how it works in normal cities but unfortunately in Ireland, stadium sharing between codes is a complicated issue. If I was a Dermot Desmond or some Irish billionaire I would be very interested in the idea of building a soccer franchise in Dublin to compete in the UK leagues. A city of Dublin’s size with a love of sport and the premier and Scottish league deserves a proper elite soccer team. It won’t happen in the next ten years but long term I wouldn’t say it will never happen.
salmocab wrote: » Pitch dimensions make that a non runner.
Dots1982 wrote: » Is there a pitch already in place that can’t be expanded? Jesus, if you’re just saying that they have different pitch sizes so they can’t accommodate both it then it’s pretty small minded thinking. Plenty of European stadiums host both soccer and rugby/rugby league.
Dots1982 wrote: » Jesus i don’t know. Seems a jump entirely to call it a non-runner. Having a different minimum 30k capacity stadium for all our cities, one for GAA and one for other codes seems more a non-runner.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_non-Gaelic_games_played_in_Croke_Park
kilns wrote: » I am saying for the current team the funding was not a factor, the funding has helped clubs attract more children and for new clubs and areas where no children have previously been reached to be able now to be reached and brought into the game If the funding is to have an impact it will be long term and you will see I would estimate in 5 to 10 years, however, if you look at under age success as a barometer than so far you could argue that funding is not directly related to success
kilns wrote: » If Dublin did not receive a penny of funding would we still have had Cluxton, Cooper, McCarthy, OSullivan, McCaffrey, Fenton, Brogan, Costello, Flynn, Connolly, Kilkenny, Mannion - yes we would
kilns wrote: » On a side note, do counties like Mayo and Kilkenny equally split their development funding resources between hurling and football?
Beechwoodspark wrote: » Question to the dubliners on this thread Do you realise the anger and frustration among rest of the gaa public over the financial doping? Do you realise a big proportion of the gaa public have little or no respect for Dublin’s achievements over the last few years due to the financial doping? I think Dublin are in serious denial about it all.
blanch152 wrote: » Apart from a few journalists on a crusade and a handful of people on these threads, I have to say that it never comes up when I am talking to ordinary GAA people. Even when talking to mentors and parents at Feile, or other club trips, the talk is never about financial doping, in fact many of them bemoan their own club and county spending on things that don’t matter, a particular chorus in a recent visit to Cork.
ToBeFrank123 wrote: » You have to be having a laugh with this bit. Everyone in the country is talking about it. As for the Feile, etc, they mightn't say it to your face, but you can be sure they say it behind your back.
Fann Linn wrote: » Everybody?
ToBeFrank123 wrote: » Yes, everybody. You Dubs need to get out more, or get outside Dublin more. There's more to life than the pro Dublin echo chamber you inhabit.
