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Should Sweden Change Its Flag

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Sweden is seen as a very progressive country which embraces equality and diversity. Is it sustainable for it to retain its national flag, which contains such overt Christian symbolism?

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K.Flyer

Don't see muslim countries pissing in their pants trying to remove islamic symbols from their mosques, flags or whatever in order to appease non muslims.

malinheader

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

"As the Seamen's Church is an independent foundation and, while in Stockholm, not part of Brunne's Diocese of Stockholm, Kicki Wetterberg, the head of the Seamen's Church, rejected the suggestion in an interview with Dagen, stating that she had "no problem with Muslim or Hindu sailors worshipping in the church, but the church will keep its crosses, being a Christian church".[16]"

At last someone with a bit of cop on.
This stupid carry on of removing objects in fear of insulting a small minority only adds to the divisions that people are trying to mend.
I'm sure 90% of them couldn't give a toss, and any who do shouldn't be there.

ILoveYourVibes

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

"As the Seamen's Church is an independent foundation and, while in Stockholm, not part of Brunne's Diocese of Stockholm, Kicki Wetterberg, the head of the Seamen's Church, rejected the suggestion in an interview with Dagen, stating that she had "no problem with Muslim or Hindu sailors worshipping in the church, but the church will keep its crosses, being a Christian church".[16]"

Oh i know what that is. The cross is seen as idolatry in Islam and Judaism.

Or rather the crucifix is.

But then jews don't go woshipping in churches. And according to jewish law we can't.

We can go pray in a mosque though because its clear there is no idolatry there. And they can pray in a synagogue for the same reason.

Judaism and Islam has a similar sensitivity to idolatry. The star of David and the crecent moon on mosques etc doesn't represent god. The star represents the Jewish people. The crescent moon represents islam not allah. We are not allowed have images of god ....as god is infinite and beyond race nation or gender.

Christianity has a lot of idolatry.

Obviously asking someone to remove their cross etc is not ok it's their place of worship etc.

Atoms for Peace

"As the Seamen's Church is an independent foundation and, while in Stockholm, not part of Brunne's Diocese of Stockholm, Kicki Wetterberg, the head of the Seamen's Church, rejected the suggestion in an interview with Dagen, stating that she had "no problem with Muslim or Hindu sailors worshipping in the church, but the church will keep its crosses, being a Christian church".[16]"

colm_mcm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

England has the cross in its flag as christian symbol too.

<SNIP>

St Georges Cross.

So would you be if someone painted your horse.

spurious

spurious wrote: »

They gave us 3/4 of Abba. They can do no wrong.

fryup wrote: »

why? who is the odd one out?

Frida. The dark-haired one. She was Norwegian with a German soldier father, which as you can imagine, made for some fun times in post-war Norway. That's why they moved to Sweden.

ILoveYourVibes

England has the cross in its flag as christian symbol too.

St Georges Cross.

fryup

spurious wrote: »

They gave us 3/4 of Abba. They can do no wrong.

why? who is the odd one out?

spurious

They gave us 3/4 of Abba. They can do no wrong.

The chan chan man

I’m not mad on Sweden, but the flag is a big plus.

skooterblue2

L1011 wrote: »

Which was bollox like all of these are

Its not Bollocks its fact. Proven

https://pjmedia.com/faith/2017/06/21/church-of-swedens-first-lesbian-bishop-wants-to-remove-crosses-add-muslim-prayer-spaces-to-church/

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2015/10/05/worlds-first-lesbian-bishop-calls-church-remove-crosses-install-muslim-prayer-space/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Brunne

She sounds like a right basket case.

biko

Reputable Rog

I'm considering moving to Switzerland. Their flag is a big plus.

fryup

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Sweden actually has a state religion which is christianity.

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Actually like all the nordic countries, Lutheranism is the state religion

yes and Lutheranism (Protestantism) is part of Christianity

malinheader

Definitely not. Keep their flag and put up more crosses. Might deter some other easy offended types entering their country.

Mad_maxx

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Sweden actually has a state religion which is christianity.

Just like Norway , Iceland , Malta, the UK ( 1701 Act of Establishment,) etc. Makes sense for the flag to be christian.

And people probably have an attachment to it.

And lets face it sweden IS a tolerant place to live.

Unlike china ..where religion is a pariah..but minorities are still persecuted.

Actually like all the nordic countries, Lutheranism is the state religion

arybvtcw0eolkf

L1011 wrote: »

Which was bollox like all of these are

Google disagree's with you.

Personally I hate all religious symbols equally so I couldn't really give a tup'pennys fvck but it seems (after a quick Google search) as though crosses are being removed in Sweden and other European countries.

Hobosan

I think they should get rid of the flag and also close down every single University in the world... for consistency like!

It's bad enough that Catholics cover up child abuse, but the cover up of inventing Unnversities when Europe was happily living in excrement is something that must not go unpunished.

StupidLikeAFox

Malakai Late Water wrote: »

Something similar-ish has already been done with a brand of Greek youghurt that sells across Europe at all german discount stores. The packaging was deemed too offensive, so the small cross was airbrushed out.

Some guy in Lidl made a calculated decision that by removing the crosses they could potentially increase sales.

tuxy

L1011 wrote: »

Which was bollox like all of these are

Yes it was only one church that bishop Eva Brunne proposed the changes for.

L1011

chuchuchu wrote: »

There was a story before about them removing crosses from Swedish churches as not to offend Muslims

Which was bollox like all of these are

tuxy

Malakai Late Water wrote: »

Something similar-ish has already been done with a brand of Greek youghurt that sells across Europe at all german discount stores. The packaging was deemed too offensive, so the small cross was airbrushed out.

WTF? From 2017

But we are saved, the crosses are back! (2019)

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chuchuchu wrote: »

There was a story before about them removing crosses from Swedish churches as not to offend Muslims

Something similar-ish has already been done with a brand of Greek youghurt that sells across Europe at all german discount stores. The packaging was deemed too offensive, so the small cross was airbrushed out.

[Deleted User]

There was a story before about them removing crosses from Swedish churches as not to offend Muslims

Kermit.de.frog

What does Trump think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0tSLV3GGQc

ILoveYourVibes

Vita nova

Yes, it should be a black and white pictogram of a person assembling a wardrobe

Lackadaisical

Sweden has a state church so that's not likely to be happening any time soon.

ILoveYourVibes

Sweden actually has a state religion which is christianity.

Just like Norway , Iceland , Malta, the UK ( 1701 Act of Establishment,) etc. Makes sense for the flag to be christian.

And people probably have an attachment to it.

And lets face it sweden IS a tolerant place to live.

Unlike china ..where religion is a pariah..but minorities are still persecuted.

paleoperson

Troll thread.

Get a life.