The Nal wrote: » lol Why not though? Halal certified bread is very healthy. Tap water is halal certified by the way. So are potatoes.
Blueshoe wrote: » Ok here is my reason: because I don't choose to.
King Mob wrote: » Ok. But why go to the effort of avoiding halal certified food? Why do you choose to avoid halal certified food and not say kosher certified food?
Blueshoe wrote: » Il avoid both if I want. I could also avoid GMOs and products made with Palm oil if I choose. I could avoid meat altogether and take up veganism if I decided to.
King Mob wrote: » Ok. But why would you avoid halal certified food? Again this is a pretty simple question and I don't understand your reluctance to address it directly. I can see legitimate/non-racist reasons for avoiding the other products aside from Halal and Kosher certified food. For those, I cannot see any reason to avoid them that is consistent and non racist. Do you avoid eating kosher certified food? if so, could list some brands you avoid because of this?
Blueshoe wrote: » The bread for example is not a problem. There is no difference. Meat is different though to me. I'm not a Muslim dont don't feel the need or want to eat food that has been prepared by Halal methods. That's my choice.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Apart from someone saying a few words over the animal there is no difference in halal/non halal meat. The same with the auld catholic church crackers they serve at mass, nothing changes just cos a lad in a dress says a few words overit.
Blueshoe wrote: » Would you like to see my right to choose removed?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Choose whatever you like, call your reasoning whatever you like. We all know the true reason so knock yourself out.
King Mob wrote: » Hold up now, you're changing the subject. The subject has always been halal certified bread. That's what I'm refering to and doing so clearly and repeatedly. You said, in reference to halal certified bread: So are you now saying that you don't avoid halal certified bread contrary to your previous statements and to the topic of the conversation? Please be clear on this.
Blueshoe wrote: » The subject is halal products. There are countless posts on both the bread and the meat. Specifically the slaughter methods used. Read back Again I will avoid either, neither or both. That's my decision.
King Mob wrote: » I am acutely aware of the topic thanks. You however are being deliberately evasive on every question you are asked. So once again: Do you avoid halal certified bread? Yes or no? If you ignore the question or do not directly answer it, I will assume the answer is no, and you are simply wasting time.
Blueshoe wrote: » Halal bread: if nothing is added or removed to suit halal certification I don't have an issue. I would like to see the Halal symbol on the packaging though.
King Mob wrote: » Ok. (I'll avoid asking why it needs to be labeled, I doubt I'll a straight answer.) So for people who are avoiding halal certified bread. Can you think of any reasons for why they would want to avoid it that are either silly or racist? Is so, please detail some.
Blueshoe wrote: » Because they have freedom of choice without being labelled by the like of you.
King Mob wrote: » But that's not an answer I'm afraid, please try again. What reason would someone have for avoiding halal certified bread? Just "I woke up one day and decided not to out of the blue for no other reason" is not realistic. Again, it's a very simple question, yet you've been doing your very best to avoid answering it. If you can't think of a reason, please just say so. It's really not difficult or anything.
Blueshoe wrote: » Bread? Il stick with the freedom of choice or personal beliefs/opinions answer thanks
King Mob wrote: » Again you are avoiding a very simple direct question. The only explanation for this is that you are deliberately avoiding because you can't answer it. There is no reason to avoid halal certified bread beyond simple racist.
Blueshoe wrote: » Iv given my answer pal.
Blueshoe wrote: » Ironic that you won't answer my question about having a Halal symbol on certified food products
King Mob wrote: » Your answer being that a person might just wake up one day and for no reason at all randomly decide to never eat halal certified food? Sorry, that's a very silly answer and I don't think it's very realistic. So there are no reasons as I've said. No, I'm not going to answer an off topic question of no relevance when I've been unable to get a straight answer to my question for these dozen odd pages.
Blueshoe wrote: » You have your answer. You don't have to accept it. I don't really care.
Blueshoe wrote: » Halal and kosher symbols are placed on food labels in Australia. Would you like to see the same here?
Halal certified labels on food are comon in many other countries. It helps Muslims know which foods they can and can't be eaten. Id like to see it rolled out here. Do you think it will happen?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » If i said i dont eat Brussel sprouts, pork or any other item.and you asked me why then i would explain. When you are asked your answer is .... just because. Are you afraid to give your real reason?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » If i said i dont eat Brussel sprouts, pork or any other item.and you asked me why then i would explain. When you are asked your answer is .... just because. Are you afraid to give your real reason? Muslims already know because they can quicky search a product, as can you if you have concerns. Why would you like to see it rolled out in ireland? So Muslims can shop easier?
King Mob wrote: » I don't really care.
Blueshoe wrote: » That's the spirit. Beannaigh Dia thú
King Mob wrote: » See how easy it is to answer questions directly instead of dodging them.
Blueshoe wrote: » I gave you the same answer over and over. Personal choice.
King Mob wrote: » Yes, but that doesn't explain the why though. You keep dodging that cause you can't answer it. "Why do you avoid halal certified." "just cause I can and picked it at random" Do you really think that's why some people are avoiding it?