The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

They've just got better footballers.

Agree there, I reckon we're getting the best out of the players we have. We just don't have the players to beat Tyrone, Kerry, Donegal and Dublin. That isn't going to change anytime soon unless the club standard improves or we get transfers.

Our midfield and full forward line is lacking big time. The teams mentioned above all physically outsize us too. We don't have enough players in their mid 20s and above who have filled out. Too many younger lads with no size to them.

Nidgeweasel

Cavan_King wrote: »

There’s always hope but I can’t see us beating Tyrone tomorrow. They’re a seasoned outfit and way ahead of us in terms of development and experience.

They've got better footballers which is pretty much the end of it.

Talk of experience and the rest is only relevant where the players across both teams have similar ability. Tyrone's footballers are far superior to Cavan's.

I would like to be wrong of course but can't see anything other than Cavan getting a hammering, which would be a pity because as you mentioned it would undo a lot of the positivity that they have garnered through the year.

Cavan_King

There’s always hope but I can’t see us beating Tyrone tomorrow. They’re a seasoned outfit and way ahead of us in terms of development and experience. People are clutching at straws with remarks that Clones could be a benefit for Cavan because we’ve played there a few times this year - we’re playing a Tyrone team that have won Ulster Finals there!

I’d take a valiant loss where the lads play their hearts out and come up short because it wouldn’t erode the good Championship year we’ve had to date.

People in Cavan are too quick to be critical. Starting Gerry Smith and Ciaran Brady in the Ulster Final and the two of them lacking both match practice and fitness shows that Graham obviously feels we’re still a bit short even with a 40 man panel.

It’s been a good Championship year and there’s a lot to build on going forward, whatever the result tomorrow.

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Giggernaut wrote: »

Jesus lads, what's been happening in training. Sounds the lads have taking lumps out of each other.

Murray would be a proper loss. Madden to a lesser extent and while Caoimhin has promise he wouldn't be a massive loss. Obviously you'd prefer to have them fit.

Preparing for the big battle with Tyrone. Hopefully they’ll be up for it. Put a few of them on their arses early.

LiamM1 wrote: »

I heard he is OK for Saturday

Any word on Caoimhin O Reilly? Going around he has a broken foot. is this true?

Is Oisin Pierson hand definitely broken?

Madden has concussion

Jesus lads, what's been happening in training. Sounds the lads have taking lumps out of each other.

Murray would be a proper loss. Madden to a lesser extent and while Caoimhin has promise he wouldn't be a massive loss. Obviously you'd prefer to have them fit.

LiamM1

I heard he is OK for Saturday

Any word on Caoimhin O Reilly? Going around he has a broken foot. is this true?

Is Oisin Pierson hand definitely broken?

Madden has concussion

Olpiy

It's Barry Cassidy.

Is there any word on Niall Murray, we really need him to be fit.

Any word on who the ref is for Saturday?

rrs

Hopefully the U20s beat Tyrone beforehand. Darragh Canavan is a gem of player for them. Same skillset as his father..

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

I dont think we win, but I dont think we get hockeyed either. Tyrone are masters at the qualifiers, and with games every week, if they get a lead I suspect they will protect it rather than give us a hiding. We will put up more of a fight than Kildare

I would have preferred taking Tyrone out of Clones for the reason that if Cavan go down a couple early on it'll be a case of deja vu re Ulster final.

It'll be soul destroyer if Tyrone just control the game and we as fans have no real hope. The Ulster final was tough going.

Alternatively, I hope we go for them and the lads express themselves and say "**** Tyrone". Straight from the throw in. Rack up some scores, take some hits, throw some shoulders, take goal chances, lucky card or two our way, shackle Harte & Burns and ya never know.

Crash Bang Wall

Hill St Blue wrote: »

I have a feeling in my gut. Were either going to shock the country and beat Tyrone, or lose by 15 points. There will be no in between.

I dont think we win, but I dont think we get hockeyed either. Tyrone are masters at the qualifiers, and with games every week, if they get a lead I suspect they will protect it rather than give us a hiding. We will put up more of a fight than Kildare

Hill St Blue

I have a feeling in my gut. Were either going to shock the country and beat Tyrone, or lose by 15 points. There will be no in between.

benjy1000

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Caoimhin carrying an injury possibly also?

Yes but it not going to keep him out although seemingly he didn’t go too well in AvB at weekend so mightn’t feature in any event.

benjy1000 wrote: »

True there was a row at training with fortune & slaps thrown

Caoimhin carrying an injury possibly also?

benjy1000

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Heard Pearson is out he has a broken hand supposedly.

True there was a row at training with fortune & slaps thrown

Heard Pearson is out he has a broken hand supposedly.

tayto lover

willabur wrote: »

been in a state of absolute depression since the draw came out, anyone but them!! Had a friend from tyrone over the other day and told him it constitutes abuse what they do to us EVERY FCKN YEAR

Get ready for the same again. Can’t see anything change.

willabur

been in a state of absolute depression since the draw came out, anyone but them!! Had a friend from tyrone over the other day and told him it constitutes abuse what they do to us EVERY FCKN YEAR

piplip87

It's time these group of lads step up. Our attacking play needs to improve. A few times Vs Monaghan a simple pass across the square was available but we pointed. We showed against Donegal we can score goals when needed.

We are still one or two players away from really challenging for Ulster's though. Hopefully the club championship will unearth a few.

We can beat Tyrone. We have the lads to kick it over from outside the defensive line, we need to break fast and score goals.

Regardless of the result we have taken big steps forward this year. We are attacking in numbers the ****e of the last decade is gone thankfully.

baconsarnie

Monaghan game aside, we’ve started the other 3 games very cagily. We got away with it in both Armagh games. Donegal were out of sight by the time we got it together.

Tyrone will look to hit the front early, defend in numbers and hit us on the break (like they have done so often). We have to start at absolutely full tilt, take the game to them, and not let them dictate the pattern of the game if we are to have any hope.

As noted above, they are no where near as impressive as years gone by, but they know how to win games. They will be looking to have it wrapped up by halftime but I think we have a chance if we press their kick outs, play forwards and go back to the Monaghan game and play the width of the field.

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cavan4sam wrote: »

Maybe so but they are no world beaters they will push on against teams if they get a lead but will struggle coming from behind .
I'd like to see us with a big man on the edge of the square from the throw in and try and trouble morgan early on as in recent times we've seen her doesn't recover well
Look lads we have to beat them sometime and as 4-1 outsiders there is no better time

If the same mistakes repeat themselves like no kick out strategy and taking too much out of the ball I'll end up more disappointed than if Mickey tried from the start to get at them.

The most disappointing thing about the Ulster final was having no hope after 25mins of pulling it back because Donegal had the measure of us. Tyrone will no doubt go at Cavan early and we need to weather that.

At the pace we attack we will find space behind their full back line and when we do we'll need goals.

celt262 wrote:

They were all-Ireland finalist's last year.

celt262 wrote:

We are not every good as bit as Tyrone. I'm sure Mickey Graham will be banging that into the squad this week but i wonder do you even believe it yourself?

Maybe so but they are no world beaters they will push on against teams if they get a lead but will struggle coming from behind .
I'd like to see us with a big man on the edge of the square from the throw in and try and trouble morgan early on as in recent times we've seen her doesn't recover well
Look lads we have to beat them sometime and as 4-1 outsiders there is no better time

Cavan_King

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Cavan haven't beaten Tyrone in the championship in 34 years. It's nearly 20 years in all competitions and that was in the Mckenna Cup.....:(

2 years if you are including McKenna Cup:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/gaelic-games/38547520

I don’t get all these rumblings re we need to play Mayo or Tyrone to deserve to reach the Super 8s. I would have loved to play Clare or Laois.

Meath, for example, are reaching the Super 8s on the back of playing Carlow, Offaly, Laois and Clare!

The lads have done enough this year and are good enough to have deserved their place already.

We’ll give Tyrone a rattle but, unfortunately, I think this game has come a year too early. The team are still developing under Graham and Tyrone have players with huge experience.

That said, Meath gave them a scare in Navan last year so if we go for it there’s no reason we can’t do the same.

But please drop the talk of starting Mackey....

We don't have players to the standard of Burns, Harte, McCurry, C McShane and Sludden.

Tyrone have reverted to type. Soaking up pressure by furious compacted defending and attacking at speed where Burns excels.

I'm sick of see Tyrone funneling teams into their defensive meat grinder and overturning ball. McShane is a monster up top for them.

I also hope the game is played away from Clones and Croker. We need all the edge we can get.

celt262

cavan4sam wrote: »

Its the draw that Cavan didn't want also the draw we needed

This old sh1te of sitting back and letting average tyrone teams beat us has to stop at some point

We are every bit as good as tyrone and with a bit of belief we will give it a right good crack

Our lads should come out all guns blazing and try and prove the ulster final was just a bad day at the office for them , lots under performed and surely will have a point to prove

If this team are to progress then this weekend is a big big step towards that

Shake off the physcological shackles and give it one last shot because if we get to super 8s an all ireland semi final place is there for the taking

They were all-Ireland finalist's last year.

We are not every good as bit as Tyrone. I'm sure Mickey Graham will be banging that into the squad this week but i wonder do you even believe it yourself?

Its the draw that Cavan didn't want also the draw we needed

This old sh1te of sitting back and letting average tyrone teams beat us has to stop at some point

We are every bit as good as tyrone and with a bit of belief we will give it a right good crack

Our lads should come out all guns blazing and try and prove the ulster final was just a bad day at the office for them , lots under performed and surely will have a point to prove

If this team are to progress then this weekend is a big big step towards that

Shake off the physcological shackles and give it one last shot because if we get to super 8s an all ireland semi final place is there for the taking