lukin wrote: » The one thing I don't understand is why Dublin keep taking this money from the GAA while at the same claiming the money is not playing any part in their success. They say they would have won all those All-Ireland's without the funding so if that is the case then what do they need it for? Just go to the GAA and tell them to give them the same as every other county is getting.
RoscommonTom wrote: » the Jack's dont like what he writes cos its true, fellas will look back at this last few years in the future and take that the all irelands the Dubs won were drugged with money, give me the great kerry team any day off the week,
kilns wrote: » A lot is not good enough if you are a journalist, he lies alot in his articles and is pulled up on it frequently. One that springs to mind was Nadal at the Australian Open when he was accusing him of taking drugs, he stated he is hitting the ball harder than ever and serving faster than ever, which was totally untrue, as was pointed out to him in 2010 he was hitting it much harder and serving faster but that does not fit with his narrative and most people are not going to check up on these things and believe wow Nadal is doing these things in his later years and therefore form their opinion on it based on what he has said, which is irresponsible and lies
kilns wrote: » In fact no money that comes from the GAA goes to the senior team.
Barlett wrote: » I'm not talking about other sports - all I'm talking about is the GAA and Dublin. While I think he goes too strongly on his criticism, I've yet to see a convincing argument that the huge sums of money handed to Dublin in development grants (not talking about sponsorship or fundraising) have not handed them an artificial advantage over other counties and it's important this is pointed out.
lukin wrote: » Where did you find this information?
Fan of Netflix wrote: » I find it funny Joe Brolly blocked Ewan this week on twitter. Brolly great at spewing our insults and bull**** but can't take any probing questions. He's turned into a right company man and yet acts like a socialist champion of the people. Hopefully Brolly is removed from RTE permanently, his punditry is a disgrace. And is part of the reason the GAA is at such a low point. Football supporters deserve better analysis than his attention seeking nonsense.
STB. wrote: » I haven't read the article but I am sure its full of the usual statistics to fit his anti-Dublin bias. What people forget is that between 1995 and 2011 Dublin weren't at the races. The GAA have their own ethos which is to get as many people as possible playing the game. Unfortunately the development of the games' figures do look disproportionate, but that's hardly surprising given its the main population centre in the country. Its also got a huge number of competing sports to drag people away from the sport. Having said all that, there are only 15 men on the field at any one time, so for an amateur sport the money is a misnomer. The current set of players themselves are very annoyed at the "financial doping" allegations giving they hold down day jobs. Getting back to Ewan MacKenna, I assume he has his own self serving agenda, to be become relevant ala the Dunphy style of being controversial, which is evident from some of his tweets. Infact having read some of disparaging and rude reponses to people who challenge him, its no wonder he had to fúck off to Brazil. I doubt they play much of the sport over there. He also has an absolutely disgraceful in your face article about Man City pinned to the top of his twitter page.
La Bamba wrote: » Would there be anything in this particular article he has written that you would disagree with? If so, would you mind elaborating on it? Cheers!
kilns wrote: » As stated before, all he does is quote the huge figures which alone look crazy and yes disproportionate to Dublin over a certain period of time. However, he refuses to dig into the figures and analyse them. For example the funds handed out to counties for games development (which is what the big sums are) Dublin is mid table per child of school going age, while not surprisly Leitrim is top followed by counties like Carlow etc. Cork and Galway if I recall are last and second last, maybe thats something which needs to be asked but hey that doesnt make clickbait headlines
kilns wrote: » You could replace Brolly with the name Ewan and the same applies. They both deserve each other when it comes to their thoughts on GAA
Barlett wrote: » Fair point but you can switch those to per GAA player registered and the figures look completely different again. The one thing I do find interesting in all this is that fundraising is massive for pretty much every county out there bar Dublin who do little to none and that's because they have so much money, they don't need to. Anyway, in fairness if I was a Dublin fan I'd be defending it to the hilt too. We'll know in the next three/four years if this is simply natural brillance and Dublin are/were fortunate to have so many great players (and a great manager) at once or a clear advantage handed to Dublin in terms of money for coaches.
Weepsie wrote: » Ewen McKenna lives in Brazil but has given out about people arriving in Ireland from abroad
kilns wrote: » Thats missing the point, GPOs go into schools which dont have GAA members, they are competing for children who may not be registered players, the clue is in the name Games Development funding.
Bonniedog wrote: » We could have bought a fkn luxury bus or paid for holidays for lads to play pool in their Jeyes Fluid BTW. La Bamba's back history is interesting. Seem to recall a cameo appearance a few years back when he was foaming at the mouth over Dublin supporter's "soccer behaviour." Glad to see he is out..... sorry, back
kilns wrote: » Thats missing the point, GPOs go into schools which dont have GAA members, they are competing for children who may not be registered players, the clue is in the name Games Development funding. It seems you are not around the club scene in Dublin as every club fundraises hard every year to pay for all expenses. The sheer volume of coaches is not even covered by the GAA funding and every club in Dublin must pay 50% for their coach, so each year they must find these funds in addition to running the club.
elefant wrote: » GPO's don't work in schools that already have GAA members? Is that really true? I thought GPO's worked with clubs, then went out to schools to encourage players there to take up the sports and join the local club?
BarryD2 wrote: » Anyone with half a brain can see the reality of the situation. The growth of Dublin success is entirely in line with what has happened in terms of business, employment, housing, public investment etc over the past decades. All these are hugely slanted towards Dublin. Then there's the structure of the current AI which effectively exists to keep the stronger counties in the competition and so on. It's no surprise that the gap between the counties is widening all the time and that Dublin as a county team is stretching well beyond the others. You'd suspect that the only thing that will bring on change is declining gate attendances for county football games. The standard of any given match is slightly irrelevant - what people want to see is a closely fought game. And a variety of winners.
BarryD2 wrote: » Anyone with half a brain can see the reality of the situation. The growth of Dublin success is entirely in line with what has happened in terms of business, employment, housing, public investment etc over the past decades. All these are hugely slanted towards Dublin.
La Bamba wrote: » Thats disappointing, appreciate the feedback all the same as it does show that this echo chamber mindset is not an issue limited to twitter and facebook.
naughtb4 wrote: » To answer your question Ewan,(and to be fair, I haven't read the article in detail) where does this fairness stop? Do we split Kildare so its the same size as Carlow? Do we fund on a per person basis so that Dublin still receives more? Do we punish kids in Dublin by removing funding for them? I disagree with the fact that he makes it all about money (which isnt spent on the senior team) and takes away from the achievement on what are amateur players. The major thing I disagree with, is you setting up a thread on something that is discussed in about 4 others in detail
