Gemma O'Doherty and her unicorns

recedite wrote: »

And with that, three or four pages of vacuous nonsense follows...
No arguments, nothing intelligent whatsoever, just people saying how clever they are, and how anyone who disagrees with them must be stupid.

That's kind of horse**** though.
You've been given every opportunity to elaborate on your points and stance.
You've been asked very direct questions.
You've been presented with very relevant points.

You've ignored them all.

For example you are currently ignoring the point that Kosher slaughter seems to actually account for the majority of no stun slaughter in the UK. (from your own source)
You have not explained why you do not avoid products and brands that are certified kosher beyond a point that was proven wrong by your own source.

Again, if there's something here beyond just stupid, xenophobic non-stories, please show that.

ohnonotgmail

recedite wrote: »

And with that, three or four pages of vacuous nonsense follows...
No arguments, nothing intelligent whatsoever, just people saying how clever they are, and how anyone who disagrees with them must be stupid.

You have summed up the pro-gemma, halal is bad, side really well there. well done.

recedite wrote: »

And with that, three or four pages of vacuous nonsense follows...
No arguments, nothing intelligent whatsoever, just people saying how clever they are, and how anyone who disagrees with them must be stupid.

Well when people make stupid statements then they should expect to get called up on them.

recedite

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Am I missing something, what the hell has bread got to do with the slaughter methods of animals?

Sorry, but I just can't face trawling back through posts to see if the answer is there already!

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

dont bother looking. It hasn't been answered. Brennans bread is now verboten to some because it is halal. Despite it being halal for 2 years already.

And with that, three or four pages of vacuous nonsense follows...
No arguments, nothing intelligent whatsoever, just people saying how clever they are, and how anyone who disagrees with them must be stupid.

dvdman1

banie01 wrote: »

The Platform owners, the actual publishers!
Its what one agrees to in any of the terms of service document one agrees to on signing up to such a service.

If you scribbled down a few thousand words of scientifically incoherent gibberish, and incitement to hatred do you believe that Penguin or any other publishing company are obliged to place that in print and circulation?

Yet people can sign up to Twitter, Facebook, Insta, Snapchat and the myriad other video and broadcast platforms and treat it as if they have an implicit right to utter any unprovable drivel or slander they wish.

If these people want to self publish and broadcast, start a website run a server and lease some bandwidth, then they are actually self publishing arent they

If they want to publish on "Public" but privately owned platforms...
Expect to be held to a certain standard of veracity that requires scientific validation and adherence with those terms that were agreed when they signed up

Her youtube channel is still there, looks like she hasn't broken any of the T&C.

banie01

The Nal wrote: »

Genuine question - how stupid are her supporters?

Can anyone think of any person with any sort of following with a larger collection of thickos?

There is a frighteningly genuine belief amognst many of them that they are contrarian.
Yes consensus can be wrong, but it is based upon best practice, research and knowledge available.
The amount of theories they have floating around at the moment that require both "hidden knowledge" and rely on massive government cover up and a wide spread conspiracy are surely an indication to a sensible person that there is something not quite right with the logic?

2 people can possibly keep a secret, 3? or more?
Thousands?

The Nal wrote: »

Genuine question - how stupid are her supporters?

Can anyone think of any person with any sort of following with a larger collection of thickos?

Trump?

:D:D

The Nal

Genuine question - how stupid are her supporters?

Can anyone think of any person with any sort of following with a larger collection of thickos?

banie01

dvdman1 wrote: »

Who chooses the right to speak/broadcast?

The Platform owners, the actual publishers!
Its what one agrees to in any of the terms of service document one agrees to on signing up to such a service.

If you scribbled down a few thousand words of scientifically incoherent gibberish, and incitement to hatred do you believe that Penguin or any other publishing company are obliged to place that in print and circulation?

Yet people can sign up to Twitter, Facebook, Insta, Snapchat and the myriad other video and broadcast platforms and treat it as if they have an implicit right to utter any unprovable drivel or slander they wish.

If these people want to self publish and broadcast, start a website run a server and lease some bandwidth, then they are actually self publishing arent they

If they want to publish on "Public" but privately owned platforms...
Expect to be held to a certain standard of veracity that requires scientific validation and adherence with those terms that were agreed when they signed up

dvdman1

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What do you mean?

People agree to the T&C's of a site when they create thier accounts.

T&C dont require "validated peer reviewed research substantiating their position"

dvdman1 wrote: »

Who chooses the right to speak/broadcast?

What do you mean?

People agree to the T&C's of a site when they create thier accounts.

dvdman1

banie01 wrote: »

You see this is where I have an issue with the right to freedom of speech becoming becoming conflated with spouting unproven and dangerous nonsense.

Yes she and the rest of her Chem-Trail, Flouride, Anti=Vax, 5G and whatever else the flavour of xenophopic Ludditism is popular are of course entitled to their opinion...

However unless they can provide actual validated peer reviewed research substantiating their position, they have no right whatsoever to have that opinion be published!

No right to a facebook platform, no right to twitter or any other publishing platform to spread their dangerous and wholly without foundation lies!
A right to speak, is not a right to be broadcast!

She and her ilk spread lies that in some cases lead to serious illness and death!
Because there are some amongst the population who feel that she "has a point" or "might be right" and buy into her BS!

I wonder when the litigation starts to bite, will she take the same path as Alex Jones and claim that she was engaged in artistic endeavour?

She is a virulent racist and her latest video is an outright and quite open attempt to incite hatred!

Who chooses the right to speak/broadcast?

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

It's ok, nevermind.

No no, please explain what you meant by that ridiculous question.

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

How does others being bothered by halal affect you?

It doesn't. Its just funny and a little sad.

Is there a point this random out of nowhere question.

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

Why is it such a big deal for you that it's a big deal for others ?

It's not.
I'm just curious why people think it is and why they dance around the real reason.

I think its funny to watch them avoid the akward questions.

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

WTF is that supposed to meaN?

It's ok, nevermind.

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

You talk about muslims an awful lot. Have you got some skin in the game ?

WTF is that supposed to meaN?

King Mob wrote: »

*Gasp*
Just when you think it cant get dumber than being mad about halal bread, we get secret muslims!

How does others being bothered by halal affect you?

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

You talk about muslims an awful lot. Have you got some skin in the game ?

*Gasp*
Just when you think it cant get dumber than being mad about halal bread, we get secret muslims!

King Mob wrote: »

Halal involves a lot of rules beyond just how animals are slaughtered.
A lot of stuff is not permitted by rules.
Getting halal certification just means that the product and the process that makes the project dont violate those rules.

I imagine since it was bread and it would easy to show that doesnt come into any contact with forbidden things and the certifiction was pretty much a rubber stamp.

Why this is a big deal to some...?
I can imagine one reason.

Why is it such a big deal for you that it's a big deal for others ?

sbsquarepants wrote: »

What does that even mean though?

Since when do you need to kill an animal to make a sliced pan?

Halal involves a lot of rules beyond just how animals are slaughtered.
A lot of stuff is not permitted by rules.
Getting halal certification just means that the product and the process that makes the project dont violate those rules.

I imagine since it was bread and it would easy to show that doesnt come into any contact with forbidden things and the certifiction was pretty much a rubber stamp.

Why this is a big deal to some...?
I can imagine one reason.

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You Don't (Unless they use some cow based secret ingredient?)

Gemma points out Brennans have been halal certified

The usual gobsh/tes lose their mind because halal means it's supporting islamic terrorism or some other waffle. They dress it up as "cruelty to animals" yet have no issue with kosher food that does not use the stunning method before slaughter.

Basically Halal = Muslims = bad = they don't like it.

You talk about muslims an awful lot. Have you got some skin in the game ?

sbsquarepants wrote: »

What does that even mean though?

Since when do you need to kill an animal to make a sliced pan?

You Don't (Unless they use some cow based secret ingredient?)

Gemma points out Brennans have been halal certified

The usual gobsh/tes lose their mind because halal means it's supporting islamic terrorism or some other waffle. They dress it up as "cruelty to animals" yet have no issue with kosher food that does not use the stunning method before slaughter.

Basically Halal = Muslims = bad = they don't like it.

ohnonotgmail

sbsquarepants wrote: »

What does that even mean though?

Since when do you need to kill an animal to make a sliced pan?

you cant expect me to explain the ravings of others, can you?

banie01

King Mob wrote: »

Irish Pride is still cool despite being kosher.

Plainly thats because the Daywalkers, have conferred with the World Rabbinacal Council and have decided that as Cain was the 1st vampire and his story is in the Torah that their interpretation of the Sky Fairy trumps that of the Sons of Ham

And that as such the NWO should allow Kosher food without question!

Its quite simple really! Dont see where the confusion arises myself :rolleyes:

sbsquarepants

King Mob wrote: »

Irish Pride is still cool despite being kosher.

Makes sense I suppose:D

sbsquarepants

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

dont bother looking. It hasn't been answered. Brennans bread is now verboten to some because it is halal. Despite it being halal for 2 years already.

What does that even mean though?

Since when do you need to kill an animal to make a sliced pan?

ohnonotgmail

King Mob wrote: »

Gemma made a video pointing out that brennans bread got certified as halal two years ago.
Some people got very upset about this.
When asked why this was upsetting those people saying it was because they objected to halal slaughter methods.
What exactly this has to do with anything has yet to be revealed.

Apparently Brennans is somehow championing halal slaughter...

all those poor defenceless heads of wheat. It would make you weep.