the_pen_turner wrote: » No there is not. She added to it by by saving g really hard. That's great but it doesn't explain where the first house and the money from it came from. It could be from hard work but it's not clear
Always Tired wrote: » Irish houses aren't really built to accomodate ppl who want a space to pursue a hobby. You have to rent a separate space. That's reality. But I find people who are 'passionate about cars' are often a bit out of touch with reality. If I was a woman I would never date someone with that passion I just find it so annoying and pointless. Here in Donegal they have this big rally every year, every year people are killed at it, this year no exception. But still it continues. Stupid redneck nonsense. No way I'd let it affect my home or a huge investment like that. I'd tell him to take his 15k and rent a garage and buy the house on my own. The activities of a garage often are loud and spill out onto the front of the house and that would wreck my head.
amcalester wrote: » It’s irrelevant though. It’s her money. Even if it was a lottery win or inheritance or stolen he has no claim to it.
the_pen_turner wrote: » Of course its relivent It is being used against him to diminish the level of savings he has. If the op earned it then its hugely different than if she won it. I'm not saying he has any claim to it. The OP wants a 500k home. The boyfriend wants a garage with his home. If they can save some money and put it towards his requirements while still getting as many of the ops as possible then it's the right decision. We cannot have everything we want
Peonie83 wrote: » Almost a year ago my boyfriend and I decided to buy a house together and started looking at properties in Dublin. I have to say it has been a nightmare for both of us! It is clear now that we both want two very different houses. My preference would be for a new house as I had owned an older house before - it took a long time, loads effort and money to refurbish it and I'm not keen on repeating that experience any time soon. I managed to sell that house and now I'm in a position to put money towards a new house (new build). I've always been very careful with money (don't really go out, buy luxurious items, clothes etc) so I've managed so save good bit on top of that. My contribution towards the house would be over 120k. My boyfriend has only started properly saving about 2 years ago. His contribution towards the house will be around 15k. He's very passionate about cars and his only dream is to have his own shed/garage that comes with the house. The problem is that there are no new houses with garages/sheds so we pretty much have to look at older properties. There are not many 2nd hand properties with garages/sheds in decent locations that don't require work. Most are priced pretty high and require thousands to make them comfortable. He keeps finding houses that are either at top of our budget and require work or are in not so great locations. Only thing he cares about is if the house has a garage/shed or not. We argue a lot over that. I am tired from my past experience and I would like a house that does not require a lot of work other than decorating. I don't want to be saving for next few years to do up a kitchen or bathroom. My ideal plan would be to have a low maintenance, modern house (hence the idea of getting a new build) and travel as much as possible, see the world. The idea of getting a new build would give us a relatively stress free lifestyle. I feel like we are not equal in this. I have significantly more money than him and I try and push myself to save as much as possible every month. He saves as well but he's not pushing himself too hard - he would have a capacity to save more but often chooses to buy things instead e.g. car parts. Am I wrong thinking that he should compromise on the garage/shed idea? Many people would love an opportunity to buy a house in the current climate. He has an opportunity to live in the 500k brand new house but makes me feel bad for the fact that there is no garage in it! I'm very tired of constant fighting over that. We do get on well otherwise, just the house thing...Should I buy something smaller on my own instead?
The_Honeybadger wrote: » We only have one side of the story but it does sound like he is at best being irrational by putting forward houses at the top of their budget that need significant work.
The_Honeybadger wrote: » I don’t agree that’s relevant at all, it is her money, end of. However she came to have it she is putting it at risk by buying with a partner, that’s all that’s relevant. Perhaps he has done nothing wrong but she has enough doubts about this enormous life changing transaction to post a thread on here about it and look for advice. We only have one side of the story but it does sound like he is at best being irrational by putting forward houses at the top of their budget that need significant work. The first thing they need to do is agree exactly what they are looking for, budget including any renovations etc. It sounds like they are pulling in opposite directions right now.
the_pen_turner wrote: » It's very relevant if it's being used against him I agree that the OP needs to sit down with her boyfriend and talk things through but asking for a garage isn't a bit ask. Maybe a compromise buying a house with an area available for a shed
Peonie83 wrote: » Someone is suggesting in the other post that I might be a snob. Maybe I am. I am a snob about wanting to live close to some village with few shops/pub, having good commute, good schools at your doorsteps, not being too afraid walking home late in the evening.
Dgvvc wrote: » Easy solution here. Equal partners= equal contribution = equal risk. If he has saved €15k towards deposit , well then that's what you put towards your part of the deposit too. (Plus, the balance of your savings gives you freedom to travel, & a cushion should you ever part ways) Unless you're married, protecting yourself against every eventuality is an absolute must. You can always pay off mortgage early in future if things become more serious commitment wise. Meantime, be smart about your investment
Peonie83 wrote: » I don't think it matters where money comes from but to answer your question - working full time and saving since 25, bought a house with a family member in a very desirable location during the recession (mortgage), renovated it and sold at a profit not too long ago. Continued saving during that time, up skilled, got promoted few times. Someone is suggesting in the other post that I might be a snob. Maybe I am. I am a snob about wanting to live close to some village with few shops/pub, having good commute, good schools at your doorsteps, not being too afraid walking home late in the evening.
Anne_cordelia wrote: » I disagree with most posters here and think the OP is being unreasonable. It was her choice to sacrifice living her life in her 20’s to save so much (not going out or buying things for herself) and now she wants to dictate that they should buy in an expensive location and he should compromise. Her boyfriend has done what most people do and enjoyed life and his hobbies and now has knuckled down to saving. Sacrificing having a good time for years for an end goal doesn’t make such sense to me as we never know what way things will turn out. A garage is not an unreasonable request and the OP would probably be grateful for one to store things rather than having them piling up in and around the house.
the_pen_turner wrote: » i think it matters a huge amount. if you got by inheriting it or similar and were holding the it agaist him it would be wrong. you hve clarified that it came from hard work and thats great what was he doing during this time while you were saving and investing im not sugesting your a snob but you do seem to value the things on your list over the one small thing on his list. i agree with you about buying a new (ish) house with no problems . old houses are a bloody neusence . always something to fix or improve. but there is no way i would live in a 500k house and be tied into any debt that comes with it without at least havign some of my needs met. in this case its a shed to do his hobby in . im sure you will dedicate parts of the house to your indevidual needs so why not him. a lot of people have dedicated areas for their hobby be it an alotment, garden, greenhouse, sewing room, workshop or garage, music room etc. its a space for that person to be themselves and get away from the world and relax if i was in your boyfriends position and my girlfriend and i were having a row over me haveing a shed (my space) it would be a huge red flag. to me it would be controling behaviour ( not saying it is in your case)
Anne_cordelia wrote: » Her boyfriend has done what most people do and enjoyed life and his hobbies and now has knuckled down to saving. Sacrificing having a good time for years for an end goal doesn’t make such sense to me as we never know what way things will turn out.
Anne_cordelia wrote: » A garage is not an unreasonable request and the OP would probably be grateful for one to store things rather than having them piling up in and around the house.
can't log in wrote: » No where did the OP imply they hadn't had a good time in their 20s, they just want to continue to have a good time in their 30s and beyond. I'm late 30s and I own a house and travel several times a year so the OP is not being unreasonable wanting to do both. A garage is unreasonable if you aren't the one footing most of the bill. The OH enjoyed his 20s and now is facing the reality of that, no garage! There were lots of things i'd like to have with my house but I had to make concessions based on cost/location/etc. As others have suggested the easiest solution would be for them both to put the same amount in for the deposit. That will bring their overall budget down a lot and might make both consider what are actually the most important things they need from the house vs what they'd like. Whatever you do OP do not buy on your own and let him move in, it opens up a lot of legal questions on co-habitation and you may end up joint owning the house anyway.
the_pen_turner wrote: » we dont know that the boyfriend was out enjoying himself. he could be investing in his trade ,tools, education etc. unlikely but posible. we dont know his situation and income. that 15k could be a lot for him. he will be footing the bill for some of the house. he will be in joint debt for 360 k with the OP. thats a lot of money to be in debt and not be getting anything you want. especially something so small as a garage.
SozBbz wrote: OP, you do know that after living together for 3 years already in rented accommodation, then you'd only have to live together for 2 years in your new home for him to have rights over your "share" of the property.
Dial Hard wrote: » SozBbz wrote: OP, you do know that after living together for 3 years already in rented accommodation, then you'd only have to live together for 2 years in your new home for him to have rights over your "share" of the property. That's not how it works. Cohabitation rights clock only starts ticking once they start living in house one or both of them owns.