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Shannon Airport Thread [Mod Warning in First Post]

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This thread is to discuss all things Shannon Airport related.

Warning, any back biting, regional nonsense, trolling, baiting or back seat modding will lead to bans.

It's also important to remember than that this thread is in a regional forum, not the Aviation forum, if you want to get into details on Aviation, go to that forum. Finally, this is the Clare forum, there will be a bias towards Clare in here, so expect folk to want to defend their county .

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Brennans Row

The CSO statistics for March are out.

Brennans Row

Shannon - Commercial Movements (IAA)

|Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sept|Oct|Nov|Dec|Total
2015|1,253|1,026|1,277|1,454|1,725|2,169|2,058|1,728|1,780|1,645|1,283|1,312|18,710
2016|1,222|1,128|1,390|1,488|1,807|2,031|2,032|1,834|1,839|1,698|1,353|1,327|19,149
2017|1,291|1,215|1,429|1,446|1,776|1,975|1,949|1,885|1,778|1,796|1,440|1,316|19,296
2018|1,301|1,200|1,368|1,575|1,829|2,098|2,104|1,949|2,066|1,858|1,385|1,369|20,102
2019|1,246|1,087|1,320|1,444|1,836|1,951|||||||
Change|-4.2%|-9.4%|-3.5%|-8.3%|+0.4%|-7.0%|||||||

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hobie14 wrote: »

hobie14 wrote: »

AF32 ..... B777 .... Ory to Jfk ....seems to be diverting to Snn ... on the way in now?

Medical emergency ..... bless you Irish Mirror .....☺

. . . or Pat Flynn at the Clare Herald.

Jet diverts to Shannon with ill passenger (Clare Herald)

Air France flight AF-032 was about two hours into its journey from Paris to New York when the crew declared an emergency over the North Atlantic and turned around.

Man arrested after flight diverts to Shannon (Clare Herald) 20.06.2019

Lufthansa flight LH-412 was travelling from Munich, Germany to Newark, New Jersey and had just crossed the Irish coastline over Co Galway when the flight crew contacted air traffic controllers to report they had an “abusive passenger” on board.

hobie14

hobie14 wrote: »

AF32 ..... B777 .... Ory to Jfk ....seems to be diverting to Snn ... on the way in now?

Medical emergency ..... bless you Irish Mirror .....☺

hobie14

AF32 ..... B777 .... Ory to Jfk ....seems to be diverting to Snn ... on the way in now?

Brennans Row

hobie14 wrote: »

Breakingnews.ie reporting Jp McManus jet made emergency landing in Shannon this evening ..... all safe and well ....

JP McManus jet in emergency landing at Shannon (Clare Herald)

There were five people on board the Gulfstream G650 jet including, it’s understood, Mr McManus himself.

The crew declared an emergency over the Irish Sea and turned around before they were due to enter UK airspace. The flight had only left Shannon a short time earlier.

The crew confirmed they had suffered an engine failure and declared a May-Day emergency.

hobie14

Breakingnews.ie reporting Jp McManus jet made emergency landing in Shannon this evening ..... all safe and well ....

Brennans Row

Lufthansa Technik Temporary Hangar Structure (Tobin Engineers)

Faced with an unprecedented and indeed technical dilemma of sorts at Shannon Airport, Lufthansa Technik Shannon Ltd. approached TOBIN Consulting Engineers to find a way of accommodating a Boeing 787-8 at their maintenance base. The problem we faced here was predominantly with the sheer size of this particular Boeing in relation to the size of the existing hangar at the airport. To put it into context, this particular aircraft (which has a starting price of about $239 million) measures some 60m in length, has a wing span of about 60m and has a tail height in the region of 17m.

The issue for Lufthansa was that their existing hangar in Shannon would simply not be big enough to accommodate this scale of an aircraft. Our solution to the problem here at TOBIN centred on the adaptation and reconfiguration of the existing hangar by adding a temporary and movable structure for housing the 787-8. A permanent fixture was not an option here due to the operations of the existing and adjacent hangars. The movable solution also needed to be quick to move, safe and weather tight when connected.

When required, this structure will be towed into position by an aircraft tug and when not in use will be secured to an apron slab in a parked position.

JCX BXC

Bristol isn't withdrawn, it ran this may. Perhaps numbers aren't published yet?

Brennans Row

The UK Airport Provisional Statistics for May are out.

Bristol is also now available for April because the first publication omitted them.

Brennans Row

Shannon - Commercial Movements (IAA)

|Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sept|Oct|Nov|Dec|Total
2015|1,253|1,026|1,277|1,454|1,725|2,169|2,058|1,728|1,780|1,645|1,283|1,312|18,710
2016|1,222|1,128|1,390|1,488|1,807|2,031|2,032|1,834|1,839|1,698|1,353|1,327|19,149
2017|1,291|1,215|1,429|1,446|1,776|1,975|1,949|1,885|1,778|1,796|1,440|1,316|19,296
2018|1,301|1,200|1,368|1,575|1,829|2,098|2,104|1,949|2,066|1,858|1,385|1,369|20,102
2019|1,246|1,087|1,320|1,444|1,836||||||||
Change|-4.2%|-9.4%|-3.5%|-8.3%|+0.4%||||||||

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Aer Lingus apologises to stranded passengers (Clare Herald)

Aer Lingus has apologised to passengers who were left behind in Boston at the weekend after their plane was forced to take off and fly to Shannon without them.

It’s understood the flight EI-134 did not have the legally required number of flight attendants to operate the service after one crew member fell ill prior to departure.

Flights from Shannon were cancelled on four occasions in March and again in June this year while in 2018, flights from Shannon to New York and Boston, and their return legs, were cancelled up to 20 times resulting in hundreds of passenger being inconvenienced.

The carrier has been strongly criticised in the past for prioritising the needs of Dublin passengers at the expense of its Shannon customers while Aer Lingus’ commitment to Shannon Airport has been repeatedly questioned.

Brennans Row

The CSO statistics for February are out.

Brennans Row

The new International Aerospace Coatings (IAC) hangar is taking shape.

Photos from Sparky.

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Nordic Aviation Capital orders 125 new planes from Airbus and ATR for $4 billion (RTE)

Limerick-based Nordic Aviation Capital (NAC) has announced it will invest further in the city as it expands its new office space at Gardens International to encompass the entire development.

NAC currently employs 80 people in Ireland and 220 people globally with offices in Denmark, US, Singapore and Hong Kong.

Its customers include British Airways, Air Canada, Air France, Lufthansa, LOT Polish Airlines, Alitalia and Dublin-based Stobart Air, which operates Aer Lingus Regional services among others.

ASL orders 737 Freighters from Boeing (Clare Herald)

A Dublin-based aviation group has signed has signed a Memorandum of Understanding with aircraft manufacturer Boeing for the purchase of twenty (20) 737-800 Boeing Converted Freighters (BCF).

The agreement between ASL and Boeing includes 10 firm orders and 10 purchase rights. The deal was announced at the Paris Air Show this week.

ASL Airlines Ireland, part of the ASL Aviation Holdings DAC, operates cargo services from Shannon to the UK and Europe as well as flying scheduled passenger operations on behalf of Aer Lingus to New York and Boston.

ASL also operates a Hangar in Shannon too.

lockman

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

EI have zero interest in adding new routes from Shannon, unless of course they remove one first.

Aer Lingus are a business: if they thought they could make a substantial profit on a new route(s), no doubt they would try. They, and other airlines, face a few challenges out of Shannon: the presence of Ryanair at the airport, the seasonal nature of business at Shannon, and the limited market.

RocketRaccoon

JCX BXC wrote: »

However, this does not mean new routes for Shannon, imo they'll simply swap the Malaga/Faro rotations onto the A320-200 that will be freed, and allow the cork aircraft to remain in cork.

I'd love to be surprised though, something like an Amsterdam or Paris flight would work schedule wise, it's just actually having a sufficient market to run the flight

EI have zero interest in adding new routes from Shannon, unless of course they remove one first.

JCX BXC

However, this does not mean new routes for Shannon, imo they'll simply swap the Malaga/Faro rotations onto the A320-200 that will be freed, and allow the cork aircraft to remain in cork.

I'd love to be surprised though, something like an Amsterdam or Paris flight would work schedule wise, it's just actually having a sufficient market to run the flight

Deagol

Cookiemunster wrote: »

EI like to sweat their assets. They already use A330s to do early morning Faro and Malaga rotations rather than have them sit on the tarmac between trans Atlantic flights. This would be the same. Land from the US, do the early Heathrow rotation and then head back to the US around noon. Use the A320 for a different route.

Thanks for that, makes sense. Will probably end up on it a few times a year

lockman

highlydebased wrote: »

Aer Lingus to operate EI380/1 with A321LR from 29/3/20

Most certainly means the A320 will be operating somewhere else in the morning and back

Good move: it makes a lot of sense.

marno21

Diego Tristan wrote: »

Also means they could properly market a ticket as business class all the way from JFK-LHR, rather than current situation of J cabin from JFK to SNN and Y from SNN to LHR.

And more importantly for Shannon, business class on SNN-LHR-xxx making full use of British Airways business class eastwards

Diego Tristan

Cookiemunster wrote: »

EI like to sweat their assets. They already use A330s to do early morning Faro and Malaga rotations rather than have them sit on the tarmac between trans Atlantic flights. This would be the same. Land from the US, do the early Heathrow rotation and then head back to the US around noon. Use the A320 for a different route.

Also means they could properly market a ticket as business class all the way from JFK-LHR, rather than current situation of J cabin from JFK to SNN and Y from SNN to LHR.

Cookiemunster

Deagol wrote: »

Hi, Have you a source for this? Can't see why they would use a LR for a LHR flight unless pax numbers require larger? I know the JFK route is getting an LR - crossed wires maybe?

I'm hoping of course that you are right though! Maybe they can't do Aerspace on 320 and cope with pax numbers is a thought i had.

EI like to sweat their assets. They already use A330s to do early morning Faro and Malaga rotations rather than have them sit on the tarmac between trans Atlantic flights. This would be the same. Land from the US, do the early Heathrow rotation and then head back to the US around noon. Use the A320 for a different route.

highlydebased

Deagol wrote: »

Hi, Have you a source for this? Can't see why they would use a LR for a LHR flight unless pax numbers require larger? I know the JFK route is getting an LR - crossed wires maybe?

I'm hoping of course that you are right though! Maybe they can't do Aerspace on 320 and cope with pax numbers is a thought i had.

It's loaded in the booking engine.

Deagol

highlydebased wrote: »

Aer Lingus to operate EI380/1 with A321LR from 29/3/20

Most certainly means the A320 will be operating somewhere else in the morning and back

Hi, Have you a source for this? Can't see why they would use a LR for a LHR flight unless pax numbers require larger? I know the JFK route is getting an LR - crossed wires maybe?

I'm hoping of course that you are right though! Maybe they can't do Aerspace on 320 and cope with pax numbers is a thought i had.

highlydebased

Aer Lingus to operate EI380/1 with A321LR from 29/3/20

Most certainly means the A320 will be operating somewhere else in the morning and back

golfball37

Balf wrote: »

What is it that they think the Council will bring to improve the airport's performance?

What do they feel is lacking in the current board?
https://www.shannongroup.ie/about-us/board/

Are other airport boards remarkably different?
https://www.daa.ie/our-company/our-team/

Posturing- Id say Clare County Council wouldn't exist if it weren't for the exorbitant rates paid over to them by Shannon Group. Where does that money go I wonder?

Balf

https://www.clareecho.ie/clare-representation-on-shannon-airport-board-a-bloody-disgrace/

A review in the make up of Shannon Group’s PLC has been sought by elected representatives in Co Clare.

Fianna Fáil councillor, Pat Daly at last Monday’s adjourned June meeting of Clare County Council criticised Shannon Group for rejecting an application from Pat Dowling, Chief Executive of the local authority to sit on the board as a Council representative. .......

Cllr Gerry Flynn who was previously backed by fellow councillors to seek a position on the Board as their representative stood aside in favour of Dowling’s bid.

What is it that they think the Council will bring to improve the airport's performance?

What do they feel is lacking in the current board?
https://www.shannongroup.ie/about-us/board/

Are other airport boards remarkably different?
https://www.daa.ie/our-company/our-team/

JCX BXC

https://clarechampion.ie/e14-million-for-four-irish-airports-but-nothing-for-struggling-shannon/

The sheer brazen incompetence and even ignorance. It hurts to read.

Could be very easy to say 'fine, here's €5 mil for Shannon, however you no longer have the funding of the cash-cow that is Shannon development'.

Wouldn't that be great?

Things are being made out that they are worse than what they actually are. The 737MAX groundings are having a large impact, a small decline would have occured anyway, however that's not the eradication of the airport. Competent management, who are not just there for photo shoots, need to be implemented. And I don't mean someone who will jump into a quick affair with Ryanair either.

Brennans Row

University of Limerick on course to develop sustainable aviation fuel (Irish Times)

An initiative to develop biofuel in Ireland suitable for use in aviation has been announced by the University of Limerick and a Dutch company which is a global leader in sustainable aviation fuel (SAF).

The Bernal Institute at the university has signed a memorandum of understanding with SkyNRG to explore development of sustainable aviation fuel manufacturing in Ireland.

The Bernal Institute works already on many aspects relevant for emission reduction in aviation such as lightweight composite structures. This collaboration will be a good complement to research at iComp.

Ei Electronics supporting Shannon Aviation Museum (Clare Herald)

Shannon’s largest employer, Ei Electronics, has announced plans to provide significant support for the extension and renovation of the Shannon Aviation Museum, which has been in existence since 2007.

The Centre provides accredited education and training aviation courses for adults in partnership with Limerick Institute of Technology and Shannon Aviation Cluster Companies, but also provides accessibility to schools and the general public offering a range of learning activities and experiences for people of all ages with a passion for aviation.