Infoanon wrote: » Looking at Moto GP their concessions rule has really helped.simply put ,the teams that are not winning/ getting podiums can test as much as they want,change engines /engine specs etc with the result that 4 of the 6 manufacturers now challenge for wins and in all likelihood that will become 5 in the not to distance future. Imagine what Renault or Honda could achieve. ....
TCP/IP wrote: » This is a great idea did not know about this rule in MotoGP. Also ban pay drivers would be a great idea if you are good enough you will get a drive. Look at Ocon disgrace he does not get a drive and you get seat blockers like Kubica and Stroll taking up seats.
the_pen_turner wrote: » Great idea I would also allow the lower teams to fix their cars and get back out during the race. Obviously not going to work in a big crash but for small stuff it would help them gain testing. Or allow them to change parts and make changes if they want. The likes of William's isn't going to get points anyway so stopping and making changes might help them. They cant afford proper testing days etc so may as well get the most out of the race
muckwarrior wrote: » I have a vague recollection of a system like that being in place a decade or so ago. A few of the lower placed teams got an extra practice session on the Friday or something like that. There certainly needs to be something in place to help level the playing field.
meeeeh wrote: » That won't work. Small teams need drivers who brig their own sponsors. No midfield driver, no matter how talented, is good enough to offset millions in sponsorship money.
TCP/IP wrote: » Perhaps the smaller teams are also a problem for F1 I mean perhaps some should be let go as they will never compete in Modern F1 and to compensate let the larger teams run a 3rd car that is only for up and coming drivers not paid ones.
TCP/IP wrote: » Then perhaps it’s time for these small teams to leave F1. There is absolutely no point in having a team like Williams for example no point in living in the past but garage teams like Williams should not be in F1.
Adamocovic wrote: » I'll still hold out hope that Bottas can make some sort of challenge and give us something to watch but it's looking very grim..
pjohnson wrote: » So no Red Bull, McLaren, Toro Tosso, Racing Point or Alfa Romeo either.....sounds exciting. F1 needs teams.
meeeeh wrote: » Garage teams are passionate about F1. Red Bull will be in F1 as long as it makes money and boosts brand recognition. Merc will be in it as long as they feel having an F1 team is more beneficial than having an LeMans or some other racing series team. Remember when Honda suddenly decided they are leaving the sport? The only reason they survived was because they became garage team under Brown name. 'Alfa' are in it now but what happens if Fiat decide they need to invest that money into development of electric cars? Bmw left yet Sauber stayed. McLaren are using Toyota wind tunnel. Remember them? You need garage teams who won't leave the moment marketing strategy changes.
"Don't point fingers at the drivers, we don't write the rules,"
"We have nothing to do with money shifting, all that kind of stuff. You should put the pressure on the people at the head, who should be doing the job."
"I hear you and from a fans' perspective I get it," he said, "but I think it's an unfair question because what would you do in our shoes? You would continue to push relentlessly for performance. It is what we do. "But the fans see a race that is less enjoyable to watch."
Formula One’s audience on free-to-air television in Britain continued to crash at this month’s Canadian Grand Prix which had the lowest number of viewers of any race so far this season. The Grand Prix, which takes place on an island in Montreal’s Saint Lawrence river, was the seventh consecutive race with a lower audience than last year and was watched by just 1.2 million TV viewers. It reversed by 5.1% on 2018 and although this isn’t as big as a drop as some of the other races experienced, it has still lost a staggering 74.4% of its audience since 2013 driven by a switch from showing live races to delayed highlights.
Gintonious wrote: » Does anyone think we have reached a tipping point for F1 yet? At what stage will it really be D-Day for the teams and owners to do something? Mercedes will never want to deliberately slow themselves down for the sake of it, if they win they get all the money and stats to go with it. These quotes today fro Hamilton and Merc are PR 101 And from Wolff Maybe they are right, and our issues are being misplaced and we shouldn't be pointing the fingers at them? Or. They have to realize they are the figureheads of the sport, these are who the fans turn up to watch, not Ross Brawn or Chase walking around the paddock. If there is to be real change it has to be from the teams, the catch (as there always is in F1) will be that they will only care for themselves in this. The 2021 rules will end up being a joke at this rate too. I am probably sounding like a broken record at this stage, but in the 20 odd years I've watched F1, this is bottom of the barrel stuff. It's a shame because clearly there are great drivers to be banging wheels, but managing tires, running minimal fuel and nursing the car as best they can...that's racing? Even Le Mans is not like that at all. And then we have Hamilton racing towards all of Schumachers records without even breaking sweat. This is such a divisive subject and I will not dare touch it now (need to properly think about it). The manner in which he is doing it and has done with Merc, it just feels a tad hollow somehow. He arrived at Merc to a team that had already invested millions in the new rules and structure to clearly get a run at domination, this is not a stab at Hamilton, but to compare that to Schumacher arriving at Ferrari in the state that it was in and to do what he did. My bias is clearly showing here too, to me Schumacher is the greatest to race a car so for me to judge this with a clear mind is probably not going to happen. Rant over.
H3llR4iser wrote: » As for the "dullness"...in absolute terms, the Ferrari dominance of the early 2000s was similar; The thing was that it was somewhat shorter and punctuated by a bit of more competitive seasons (like 2003) due to the tyre wars and the fact that Michelin were at times better then Bridgestone, allowing inferior chassis like Williams' and McLaren's to compete with Ferrari, albeit briefly.
