Murph_D wrote: Congrats P - terrific race. Very consistent alright - May have not picked it all up but didn’t really get a sense of you racing the people around you as much as the watch and the awareness of the beeps/road markers etc. Perhaps that’s part of getting to the next level again. Just a thought (and something I am not very good at myself). Well done.
Murph_D wrote: Absolutely - just a little observation in response to your post-race reflections. It was a super result and shows that you prepared well. Not my intention to pour cold water in it. I notice that Cru runner finished just in front of his clubmate - both very strong runners and I bet they pushed each other all the way!
Swashbuckler wrote: » I don't think I could have ran that race any better.
KSU wrote: » While I get where the lads are coming from regarding the train like a 35 min guy personally I am not really a fan of this. Effort is key we should always be training to current fitness levels. The progress is made by stringing this together week after week, month after month (and yes sometimes year after year) and getting more controlled in that. As corny as it sounds you want to aspire to a zen type stage of training so that by the time races come around you can hover at current PB pace for as long as you need to before kicking on and utilizing the gained fitness. Economy of effort is how you improve as most of us have the top end capacity to go beyond our wildest dreams but its how long it takes us to get to that point (it's only going one way if you reach that at 3k in a 10k race) that determines our race performances. Progression happens at different rates for different people for a host of reasons (training may look similar but personal background and how a human adapts vary widely) this is why it is important to trust in the approach you have no matter what the approach is because you need almost a blinkered confidence (as long as it is based on common sense and not delusion) that what you are doing will improve you. Take M for example when he came to me first he told me what he wanted to run come 2020 and said he didn't care what he ran in mean time as long as it was moving in the right direction. His jumps admittedly have been even beyond my wildest dreams at this stage but it has helped give him confidence in the process that can be hard at times when you plateau (sometimes that requires change and other times it is just patience)
coogy wrote: » I really enjoyed reading these paragraphs. Last year, I was occasionally guilty of expecting too much too soon and convinced myself that I was able for a lot more that my body could handle. It wasn't all bad, as I put in a couple of good performances in races that I look back on now and am still proud of. It was more to do with how I misjudged my own ability. I don't think I was familiar enough with my limitations. I think a lot of it had to do with my age (I'm not ancient but I'm no spring chicken either) and felt that because I'd come into running relatively late, I had to start cramming in all sort of unrealistic goals before it was too late. Ultimately, you get found out (DCM being a case in point). Now, thanks to you and many, many others on here, I know that it all takes time and that for as long as I am running and putting the miles in with some regular race experience thrown in, it will all come together.
KSU wrote: As the years have gone on I am less interested in the specifics of sessions to an extent because I don't believe that there is too much difference in how they approach things but what is different is what a person does outside of the sessions, whether they gain confidence in there abilities from the sessions and whether they blend together for the overall goal of the plan.
Mellow Yellow 26.2 wrote: As frustrating as an injury can be when it happens, I know myself when I look back I've learned more about running when I get injured than when everything is going good. All the best.
Duanington wrote: Its easy to say you'll be back stronger than ever or you'll forget you were ever injured or whatever else well meaning people throw out there - the truth is, it'll happen again if you let it so get to the bottom of the problem, sort it out....then keep it sorted out :-)
Kellygirl wrote: I really hope you get sorted soon P. Definitely a good time to start introducing S&C. I’d say a nice and slow introduction with a few short workouts a week. For me, I was struggling to fit in the long workouts at home but reducing them to 10-15 mins makes it much easier. Might not be perfect but surely better than nothing.
Swashbuckler wrote: » Cheers D. I appreciate that. I guess the issue or lack of clarity I have is what is the real issue. If I was to listen to my physio it would be I need to sort my core out and with that the glutes will kick in and then the quad and hip flexor will dominate less. But I could go to ten physios and I guarantee I'd get four or five different opinions. One important point I want to make is my physio, in fairness, has generally done a super job in clearing a lot of the pain and numbness ive had. And I've been bombarded with info from her on everything my inner network is doing right and wrong. I mean that in a good way. So part of me has complete trust in what she's saying but another part of me wonders is she really hitting exactly what the issue is for me. What is the imbalance? Would core stability work really fix the issue? If so then great. But I don't want to waste a bunch of time working on the wrong thing so to speak. This has been one of the reasons I've veered away from the marathon. I know these issues will bite me as I ramp up to marathon level training.
Swashbuckler wrote: » I need to steal your coach
Duanington wrote: » Have you gotten a specific programme from your physio to address the imbalance/weakness ? That would be something I’d be looking for Also - as mentioned above, these s+c sessions really don’t have to be very time consuming. I get mine done in 10 minute blocks over the course of the week
healy1835 wrote: - 'Noonan Declares for DCM 2020!'
