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I met a homeless Mother on the street

Sweet.Science

On abbey st making my way home from work during the week . She had 2 young boys both under 4 and pushing a pram while drinking coffee.

She approached me and asked me can she use my phone . She wasn’t any threat to steal it so it wasn’t a problem . She called out the number for me to dial and said she left her phone in the hotel ( I twigged that’s where she was living at the moment ).

I passed her my phone it was her partner she was calling . I noticed something wasn’t right she was slurring her words . I looked at the coffee cup and it was red wine inside . I looked under the pram and there was 2 bottles of wine there with other groceries . She was extremely drunk walking around town with her kids and was making her way to focus Ireland . She gave me back the phone to explain to her partner who I was as he was paranoid . After threats to kill me I hung up blocked his number and went home

Couldn’t stop thinking on way home . We’ve created a monster allowing people like this to have kids in order to get a social house quicker etc

However has the current crisis meant there has been a slow down in kids been born into this environment? Is this the only good thing to come from it ?

I feel guilty for even saying that . However them 2 boys have all the odds stacked against them from the very start

Excuse me I’m rambling now

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Stop moaning ffs

*not at all surprising when you look at some of these accounts previous posts, it’s the same thing across numerous threads and topics. It’s pretty much all they post about.

Something severely lacking in Their lives. Human contact and empathy most notably.

Sonny noggs

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

The endless anti homeless people anti poor people anti Muslim anti gay anti women nonsense on this forum really should be looked at.
You never meet these people in real life though. It’s so weird.

Sounds like you are pro homeless people.

Stop moaning ffs

BarryD2 wrote: »

What are you on about? The OP stopped to help this woman. What do you do? Attack them.

And then went onto wonder why we allow ‘these people to have children’.

You’re missing Context here. I doubt the encounter ever actually happened tbh. Just an excuse for an anti poor people rant. After hours. Wash rinse repeat. Ad nauseum

Roger Hassenforder

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

The endless anti homeless people anti poor people anti Muslim anti gay anti women nonsense on this forum really should be looked at.
You never meet these people in real life though. It’s so weird.

Was she Muslim?

One eyed Jack

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Not at all. I just don’t associate with bigots homophobes or whatever term you’d use to describe people who actively hate poor people and the homeless. I guess the main reason you see it here constantly is because they don’t have the courage to air these views in their social circles or workplace. If they have any. Which is doubtful.

I was harsh in my last reply to you tbh and I’m sorry for that, but honestly I detest any sort of identity politics. I associate with plenty of bigots, homophobes and plenty of people who have no fear of expressing their disdain for other people for whatever their reasons are. I don’t think they’re courageous, I regard them as full of shìt when they come out with shìt about other people.

There’s no shortage of young people who are unemployed who hate gay people for instance, no shortage of men who hate women and no shortage of women who hate men. I’d to laugh when one of my mates came out with “all men are bastards”, rolled my eye when another friend of mine we were in the club and she spotted a guy, “I’d rape him” she said. I’ve met no shortage of people who are bigoted against people who are religious, one parent demanding that the local clubhouse change it’s name because it was named after a saint. Me regarding her as a dopey bint doesn’t mean I hate all women.

I’ve seen plenty of it in the workplace too btw, because the workplace is some people’s social circle, I know one of the reasons I chose to work for my employer is because as a single father their employment policies are very family friendly and I’m offered plenty of flexibility. Make no mistake that tends to put some of my work colleagues noses out of joint, and they have no problem expressing their opinions either. It doesn’t take courage, it just takes feeling like expressing an opinion is no threat to your safety,

That’s the main reason you’ll see these opinions expressed on social media, because people feel no threat to their safety for expressing themselves. There were countless threads on things like abortion on here and people behaved like utter bellends expressing themselves, because they knew there was no threat to their safety.

I’d rather live in a society where I could tell who was or wasn’t a bellend, than live in a society where people felt they couldn’t express themselves for fear that they might offend someone else’s sensitivities.

nw5iytvs0lf1uz

the reality is in ireland there is a sizeable minority of people who live in the shadows. they dont work and survive on benefits, they have kids they need neither want nor love to get more benefits, they live in a free forever council house or live in a HAP paid tenancy waiting on the right free council house to become available, they top up their earnings in the black market that still thrives in certain towns, most are involved in crime especially drugs related.
the reality is this a sad existence of boredom, abuse, violence, self loathing and worthlessness. I think the best description of the social welfare class is that it is like a cult. there is indoctrination by certain whole communities of their children and the wheel keeps turning.

SCOOP 64

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Was she Muslim?

No way, two bottles of wine in pram.

Your Face

Drinking wine from a coffee cup is genius.

No-one would suspect anything if I did it.

Hego Damask

seamus wrote: »

"allowing people like this to have kids"

Have a little think about that.

Alcoholics wandering around town pissed during the day - yeah he's spot on!!

Hego Damask

The Rapture wrote: »

I've seen a lot worse on the Luas especially around St. James stop. Strung out parents in charge of babies in buggies who don't even react when the kid drops their bottle. All the while 40 odd passengers fix their gaze anywhere but there.

Yep, and this will continue, until the govt. stop paying for scum to have kids and giving free houses this will get worse and worse.

These kids are brought up with zero guidance or love, they turn into demons, just look at that poor Ana Kriegel girl, murdered by scum like this from scum families

NoteAgent

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

The endless anti homeless people anti poor people anti Muslim anti gay anti women nonsense on this forum really should be looked at.
You never meet these people in real life though. It’s so weird.

I agree but its still probably more bearable than TheJournal.ie comment section crowd who use the govt as a scapegoat for every single problem they have and accept no personal responsibility.

If you try to counter their argument they immediately accuse you of being a FFG shill

Atoms for Peace

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Was she Muslim?

A Muslim traveller welfare mother no doubt.

[Deleted User]

suicide_circus wrote:

feel bad for the kids. the bottles of wine and daytime drunkeness and her homelessness are probably not unrelated. I have a friend who works for Focus, 95% of her clientele have substance abuse issues and/or mental health issues

Unfortunately some people made homeless turn to drink to help cope. Obviously this doesn't work but it happens

Roger Hassenforder

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

A Muslim traveller welfare mother no doubt.

With a disability
And gay

Stop moaning ffs

NoteAgent wrote: »

I agree but its still probably more bearable than TheJournal.ie comment section crowd who use the govt as a scapegoat for every single problem they have and accept no personal responsibility.

If you try to counter their argument they immediately accuse you of being a FFG shill

Never go there for exactly those reasons. Genuinely wonder how much of this is IRA bots. On here the ones spouting it are always 2-30 posts, always anti_______ (whatever the topic is) across multiple forums.
Previously banned posters who sign back up?
Never actually have anything to contribute.

Boggles

Sweet.Science wrote: »

On abbey st making my way home from work during the week . She had 2 young boys both under 4 and pushing a pram while drinking coffee.

She approached me and asked me can she use my phone . She wasn’t any threat to steal it so it wasn’t a problem . She called out the number for me to dial and said she left her phone in the hotel ( I twigged that’s where she was living at the moment ).

I passed her my phone it was her partner she was calling . I noticed something wasn’t right she was slurring her words . I looked at the coffee cup and it was red wine inside . I looked under the pram and there was 2 bottles of wine there with other groceries . She was extremely drunk walking around town with her kids and was making her way to focus Ireland . She gave me back the phone to explain to her partner who I was as he was paranoid . After threats to kill me I hung up blocked his number and went home

Couldn’t stop thinking on way home . We’ve created a monster allowing people like this to have kids in order to get a social house quicker etc

However has the current crisis meant there has been a slow down in kids been born into this environment? Is this the only good thing to come from it ?

I feel guilty for even saying that . However them 2 boys have all the odds stacked against them from the very start

Excuse me I’m rambling now

BarryD2

Nyla Little Reactivation wrote: »

the reality is in ireland there is a sizeable minority of people who live in the shadows. they dont work and survive on benefits.

There were figures reported a few days ago on household income: rounded up

40% two incomes

30% single income

30% no income

The latter presumably includes pensioners with no other sources of income but also above.

[Deleted User]

If everybody stopped giving money to people begging on the street, how many people would still be begging?

Maybe if people cannot bear to see begging they should stop incentivising it by giving money? There is nothing cold or callous about this. It is not mean. Those children will forever be brought out begging if there's money in it. Think hard about whether you really intend that when you give money.

Instead, ring up Focus or SVP or whatever and make a donation. If you're in a career which could help these lives get on their feet -tradespeople, teachers, psychologists/councillors, etc - perhaps volunteer your time and expertise?
It's definitely a savage life for those children to be brought into, as is the world of every child of a parent with an addiction. The kids will never be more important than the addiction.

Sonny noggs

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Was she Muslim?

A drunk Muslim lady? Well I never!

Outlaw Pete

Stheno wrote: »

I rarely have cash/coins on me these days and often wonder does cashless cards etc mean less money given to people on the street

They're adapting. Told one chap I had no change and he took out an ESB card and asked me would I top it up by a tenner.

WoollyRedHat

This is a classic bait and switch thread.. Be more subtle ffs.

Nikki Sixx

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

They're adapting. Told one chap I had no change and he took out an ESB card and asked me would I top it up by a tenner.

The homeless will surely have to buy card readers in the coming years.

Boggles

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Previously banned posters who sign back up?
Never actually have anything to contribute.

Checks Join Date. May 2019

Yurt2

Hego Damask wrote: »

Yep, and this will continue, until the govt. stop paying for scum to have kids and giving free houses this will get worse and worse.

These kids are brought up with zero guidance or love, they turn into demons, just look at that poor Ana Kriegel girl, murdered by scum like this from scum families

If what's out and about is to be believed, the two boys were not from what you would term as 'the social welfare class'. So what you're saying is complete conjecture

Pkiernan

Sweet.Science wrote: »

On abbey st making my way home from work during the week . She had 2 young boys both under 4 and pushing a pram while drinking coffee.

She approached me and asked me can she use my phone . She wasn’t any threat to steal it so it wasn’t a problem . She called out the number for me to dial and said she left her phone in the hotel ( I twigged that’s where she was living at the moment ).

I passed her my phone it was her partner she was calling . I noticed something wasn’t right she was slurring her words . I looked at the coffee cup and it was red wine inside . I looked under the pram and there was 2 bottles of wine there with other groceries . She was extremely drunk walking around town with her kids and was making her way to focus Ireland . She gave me back the phone to explain to her partner who I was as he was paranoid . After threats to kill me I hung up blocked his number and went home

Couldn’t stop thinking on way home . We’ve created a monster allowing people like this to have kids in order to get a social house quicker etc

However has the current crisis meant there has been a slow down in kids been born into this environment? Is this the only good thing to come from it ?

I feel guilty for even saying that . However them 2 boys have all the odds stacked against them from the very start

Excuse me I’m rambling now

Rich evil landlords to blame.

Not the consequence free everything for nothing welfare policy.

Edgware

Your Face wrote: »

Drinking wine from a coffee cup is genius.

No-one would suspect anything if I did it.

Nothing genius about it.
I bring my gin and tonic to work everyday in a water bottle. Nobody passes any attention when they see it on the bus dashboard

Nikki Sixx

A limit of one year on the dole, in a five year cycle would end people’s addiction to free money. If people had to work to survive they wouldn’t be pissed pushing a pram around like this woman. I never understand people who have kids and drag them up. Why did the woman in the story have kids, when she had nothing to offer to them?

jcorr

There's a few homeless lads living in tents on the canal adjoining Baggot Street which is near me.

I have seen it in the city centre as well.

It makes me worried myself when I see it. I can understand the OP's shock.

I don't think homelessness was as bad years ago as it is now.

Price of rent in Dublin is pretty bad. I'm planning to move away from the city myself. It's just too expensive here.

Thelonious Monk

The heroin addicts on Amiens st often have kids with them. I always see heroin addicts walking around town with young kids. They haven't a hope, but what can you do? It's not like you need to get a licence to have kids.

ILoveYourVibes

I have met a homeless mom last year. She had one little girl.
I just got the kid Mc Donald's and the mom a sandwich from O'Brien's i put a 50 euro note in the sandwich bag.