Farawayhome wrote: » There are loads of excuses used when it comes to Dublin footballers. Attempts to somehow claim that money has nothing to do with the unprecedented level of success. One off team, superhuman volunteers, etc etc. What are the attempted excuses when it comes to the Dublin hurlers? How have they gone from whipping boys to knocking out Galway, one of the All Ireland favourites?
gormdubhgorm wrote: » It could easily be done a collaborative effort between the state/state broadcaster and the GAA. Isn't it fairly obvious what needs to be covered when looking at the rushed piecemeal coverage on TSG? More coverage of games from all across the board not just the very top levels. I honestly believe there is a market for it.
shockframe wrote: » Absolutely. You only have to look at the interest there is in the podcasts/articles/twitter snapshots/forumchat like here. The TV system in place seems almost archaic.
ToBeFrank123 wrote: » So Dublin doesn't have more player development officers or receive more funds for player development than the rest of Leinster combined? As I said earlier this would be an alternative to splitting Dublin, redistributing development officers to other counties to improve their standards. But few in Dublin will go for that.
Jaden wrote: » The amount of misunderstanding crammed into one sentence is truly astounding.
The Lost Sheep wrote: » Saying it easy is crazy. Market here isnt there. Population of country. Would have to be a fee paying channel and coverage of live games requires outside broadcast etc Podcasts/articles and forums not anywhere near enough to suggest enough market for a tv channel. Would you get enough people to pay for this channel on subscrption to make it worthwhile?
dobman88 wrote: » I'd say a system like Virgin Media have set up for the Champions League and Europa League would work if the GAA wanted to set up something, even an online broadcast. They showed every minute of every game in the Champions League last season across 6 stations, basic coverage, no pre match studio chat, no half time analysis, full time whistle goes and that's it. Programme over. They did have a main match with all the bells and whistles but I watched a few games I couldn't have seen other wise. Something like that, imo, would definitely work. Send a few cameras, set up a stream or TV station and away you go.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » The issue i would have with that is that this means scaling back the progress that is being made in dublin and so kids wouldnt be getting the level of coaching they are now. I dont think that is a positive step. My own thinking would be A) pool the sponsorship money and use it to roll out that level of coaching across the country. Dublin dont really do any fundraising within the county themselves so they can easily pull up any shortfall. split dublin into 2 initially. C) as counties develop with the new coaching levels, work out what counties might be good candidates for amalgamation, and offer them that possibility.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » Splits and amalgamation's will happen at some stage. Would you get a decent team between the Mayo footballers and Galway footballers merging? Until then I suggest that any Dublin player who has not played intercounty for three years automatically becomes eligible for the new Mayo/Galway teams. The West's awake....
MayoAreMagic wrote: » People generally try to attack your county when they struggle to find fault in your point. whereas in 20 years dublins current team will be remembered as the most financially doped team of all time. e
salmocab wrote: » Pot/kettle
salmocab wrote: » Asterix my left testicle that’s just sour grapes.
The Lost Sheep wrote: » Why does answer have to be reduce spending in Dublin though and use that money in other counties when the solution is look for other funding for these counties? Dublin has far larger population than any other county so of course will have far more development officers. Same with any team/club/sport.
dunnerc wrote: » whereas in 20 years dublins current team will be remembered as the most financially doped team of all time. They will be remembered in Dublin as the greatest team of all time , that's all that matters
Farawayhome wrote: » In fairness, there already is an asterisk. Yes, Dublin people won't accept that but the rest of us don't have to follow suit.
Farawayhome wrote: » Which part? Fingal, Dún Laoghaire/Rathdown, City centre or Dublin South?
dunnerc wrote: » Guess what ! we don't care
dunnerc wrote: » Keep dreaming , Dublin is not for splitting
salmocab wrote: » He thinks if he says it enough and wishes ever so much that it will happen.
Farawayhome wrote: » Look, it's building momentum, people realise that something must be done and splitting Dublin is something that would be beneficial for all, especially the large number of underage players in Dublin who have no access to inter county hurling and football. It would also be beneficial to the GAA as a whole. 4 new teams with a large populace, that would lead to increased revenue. In football, attendances have been dying, this would make things more competitive which would obviously lead to increased revenue. We need to crunch the numbers and get into the nitty gritty of it all but this has serious potential and as I said, it's something more people are paying attention to.
Farawayhome wrote: » The answer is to fund everybody fairly. If you don't then the county receiving funding far out of proportion will push ahead. Just like now. The funding available to the 4 counties in our capital will be fair, just like every other county in the new proposals.
salmocab wrote: » Yet again your trotting out that the kids of Dublin benefit, they don’t get access to inter county football because your plan actually denies anyone in Dublin the opportunity to play inter county. It doesn’t matter that you think it’s building momentum because without considering any other reasons not to do it the county board will never go for it.
Farawayhome wrote: » You keep telling yourself that. Ok, so what do people think about the shape of this proposal? Obviously, with 4 extra counties there will be some change. The provincial championships will come to an end? Leinster will have 15 teams so something would have to give. Do you think it would be an opportunity for really radical thinking? Open draws? World cup type competition? What you think?
The Lost Sheep wrote: » What is fair funding though? Dublin get lot more in game development due to more people etc. And 4 counties in Dublin just isnt true. Do you say same with other counties with the regions within them? Splitting Dublin shouldnt be and cant be the answer to the counties dominance. Dublin at underage field more than enough sides and have screening sessions to get see potential inter county players. It wouldnt lead to increased revenues as there is no evidence that people would support manufactured teams.
