Squidgy Black wrote: » The cash converters sponsorship deal ending was one thing, but a sponsor the size of diageo cutting the cord sends a fairly big statement. Would imagine the rest of the sponsors will be having the same conversations internally and also with LI as to whether they're going to continue with them. I do find it slightly ironic though that the largest alcohol producer in the world, and the world's largest payday loan shark are taking the moral high ground.
Squidgy Black wrote: » The cash converters sponsorship deal ending was one thing, but a sponsor the size of diageo cutting the cord sends a fairly big statement. Would imagine the rest of the sponsors will be having the same conversations internally and also with LI as to whether they're going to continue with them.I do find it slightly ironic though that the largest alcohol producer in the world, and the world's largest payday loan shark are taking the moral high ground.
Exclamation Marc wrote: » It's unfortunate really as the man shouldn't be punished indefinitely and he's simply the one who's shíte was aired in public. There are certainly many worse out there who have said worse but have never been exposed. Where's the line though? Who knows, it's the unsolvable question. I hope LI retain him though, he deserves to have a career.
irishbucsfan wrote: » Who are the payday loan shark? Do Cash converters do payday loans now? There’s nothing inherently wrong or illegal about alcohol unless you’re Israel Folau!
AbusesToilets wrote: » Twitter activism at its finest.
All My Stars Aligned wrote: » FFS, did you not read the content of those Whats App messages? It's nothing whatsoever to do with Twitter activism but more to do about not wanting to have your brand connected to the employer of a person of the character that would be involved in such behavior. I sincerely hope the rest of LI sponsors follow suit.
Birdie Num Num wrote: » Without social media I doubt it would have happened. A lot of exposure for Diageo here. Pure gold as far as they are concerned. Were they the main sponsor of London Irish?
salmocab wrote: » Diageo knew in May apparently. I’d imagine they weren’t bothered until social media got on board.
Exclamation Marc wrote: » Keeping it on rugby though so it doesn't stray into AH territory, I find it strange that they've pulled out now. As someone else said, surely it was mooted and the waters were tested presigning. I do hope he is retained. And on a broader note am looking forward to seeing LI this year with all their new signings as they've been pretty shrewd
Podge_irl wrote: » Their hand was partly forced by another sponsor who apparently withdrew for completely separate reasons deciding to take the opportunity for grandstanding and adopting a dubious moral high ground which drew attention to their own sponsorship. One of those things that could have worked out but just didn’t - without this I think it was a couple week story at the start of the season then forgotten. Doesn’t help LI that two of their biggest signings have hit very different problems.
is_that_so wrote: » May is not even 2 weeks ago! The wheels of giant corporations can move very slowly.
Stheno wrote: » As most will know I'm female. While I found details that came out during the trial distasteful, and while Jackson did not behave particularly well after the trial he then moved on, appears to have taken the consequences on the chin and many months later is still vilified. I genuinely don't understand this, we all deserve a second chance. In 20 years time if he has a stellar career and is on a coaching ticket will this still be an issue? I work in a very male dominated environment so maybe that colours my opinion but I'm not sure
Exclamation Marc wrote: » Is there any movement on the Premiership structure as regards promotion/relegation?
Larbre34 wrote: » Fair enough, and your point is both reasoned and reasonable, but if you showed your post to someone who just landed from Mars and knew nothing of the trial, they'd say 'so what was he convicted for and how long did he get?' It cannot be argued that his personal conduct was anything other than unacceptable and reputation damaging (would that we should all be perfect for our whole lives), but we need to stop talking in terms of offering second chances to people who haven't been convicted of any crime, he is as entitled to pursue a living in peace as any of us. Whether Diageo can, therefore, uphold their stance legally and without compensation to Irish is a matter for the Club to pursue.
AbusesToilets wrote: » All My Stars Aligned wrote: » FFS, did you not read the content of those Whats App messages? It's nothing whatsoever to do with Twitter activism but more to do about not wanting to have your brand connected to the employer of a person of the character that would be involved in such behavior. I sincerely hope the rest of LI sponsors follow suit. He said distasteful things in a "private" chat. If that was the standard for people to warrant being exiled, Connacht would be running out of space in short notice. Tired of the attitude where people act like butter wouldn't melt in their mouths. Dishonest virtue signaling. He was found innocent by a jury who had access to all the information. I have sympathy for the woman involved, and would generally agree that those accused were shown in a poor light. At some point though, they have to be allowed continue their lives.
All My Stars Aligned wrote: » AbusesToilets wrote: » Twitter activism at its finest. FFS, did you not read the content of those Whats App messages? It's nothing whatsoever to do with Twitter activism but more to do about not wanting to have your brand connected to the employer of a person of the character that would be involved in such behavior. I sincerely hope the rest of LI sponsors follow suit.
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