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Zzippy

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Zzippy

molloyjh wrote: »

Why would someone ruin their career and their name in the process though?

I was referring to the insurance company leaking info about the case. It would suit their narrative of unfounded claims being responsible for high premiums and distract attention from the cartel investigation.

troyzer

Zzippy wrote: »

molloyjh wrote: »

Why would someone ruin their career and their name in the process though?

I was referring to the insurance company leaking info about the case. It would suit their narrative of unfounded claims being responsible for high premiums and distract attention from the cartel investigation.

How was this story found in the first place do we know?

The insurance company narrative is irrelevant. They're going to be fighting a legal battle, not a PR one

[Deleted User]

Zzippy wrote: »

I was referring to the insurance company leaking info about the case. It would suit their narrative of unfounded claims being responsible for high premiums and distract attention from the cartel investigation.

If it made it to court then the information in court documents is public right?

sydthebeat

Zzippy wrote: »

Perhaps I'm just a cynic but the timing of this story about a fraudulent/frivolous claim in the week when the insurance industry are being investigated for running a cartel is a tad suspicious.

For the life of me I still can't understand why we don't have a euro union wide selection when it comes to insurance.

I think we would see a lot more vigorously challenged cases if we had.

Irish centric insurance companies will ALWAYS pay up out of court as a first response

troyzer

sydthebeat wrote: »

Zzippy wrote: »

Perhaps I'm just a cynic but the timing of this story about a fraudulent/frivolous claim in the week when the insurance industry are being investigated for running a cartel is a tad suspicious.

For the life of me I still can't understand why we don't have a euro union wide selection when it comes to insurance.

I think we would see a lot more vigorously challenged cases if we had.

Irish centric insurance companies will ALWAYS pay up out of court as a first response

We do, technically. Any European company is allowed to offer insurance in Ireland. They're just unable to without actuarial models which is closely guarded by the incumbents.

The single market is still aspirational at the moment and isn't well integrated for services yet. I expect the next parliament to do a lot of good work here, in between arguing with ultra nationalists.

swiwi_

Back pain and headache.

Red flags for insurance companies because can’t be objectively disproven.

TD claimed both

I think this sort of thing is a little bit ingrained in the Irish mentality: « If you can rip off a higher authority than fair play to you »

There should be some sort of European law on it with fines for frivolous or fraudulent claims.

troyzer

swiwi_ wrote: »

Back pain and headache.

Red flags for insurance companies because can’t be objectively disproven.

TD claimed both

I think this sort of thing is a little bit ingrained in the Irish mentality: « If you can rip off a higher authority than fair play to you »

There should be some sort of European law on it with fines for frivolous or fraudulent claims.

I don't think it's part of the Irish mentality. I think a few quirks in the legal system have gradually got us to the point that most people can chase a ridiculous payout risk free. That's not mentality, it's just common sense.

I'm sure there's game theory to bear it out. The systems needs radical change and apparently it might need a referendum.

Zzippy

Interested Observer wrote: »

If it made it to court then the information in court documents is public right?

I saw some tweets from a barrister suggesting her medical info has been leaked ahead of the court documents actually becoming public, which would be illegal and a breach of GDPR and her privacy. As I say, suspicious timing and no one is talking about the investigation into a cartel.

irishbucsfan

swiwi_ wrote: »

Back pain and headache.

Red flags for insurance companies because can’t be objectively disproven.

TD claimed both

I think this sort of thing is a little bit ingrained in the Irish mentality: « If you can rip off a higher authority than fair play to you »

There should be some sort of European law on it with fines for frivolous or fraudulent claims.

Clearly the reaction to this shows it’s anything but the “Irish mentality”

awec

Anyone know anything about house alarms?

We've been quoted for ~800 to install HKC stuff throughout the house, all windows and doors etc, with 150 a year plus VAT for the monitoring.

But phone watch quote like 300 quid for full install, but monitoring is like twice as much.

The prices seem really different, not sure if I'm missing something?

thomond2006

https://soundcloud.com/rte-radio-1/maria-bailey-1?fbclid=IwAR2ifjqtkIClDj63-qWtkc2mI8fObB_ryPBFh7GuR_RDsBZitnw6gagE_b8

Car. Crash.

troyzer

thomond2006 wrote: »

https://soundcloud.com/rte-radio-1/maria-bailey-1?fbclid=IwAR2ifjqtkIClDj63-qWtkc2mI8fObB_ryPBFh7GuR_RDsBZitnw6gagE_b8

Car. Crash.

That's at least two government TDs gone. Herself and Fitzgerald. We could be looking at a general now.

Bazzo

Any time anyone asks me a question I don't want to answer from now on I'm just going to keep repeating their name and shouting "THAT IS FOR A JUDGE TO ADJUDICATE ON"

thomond2006

Bazzo wrote: »

Any time anyone asks me a question I don't want to answer from now on I'm just going to keep repeating their name and shouting "THAT IS FOR A JUDGE TO ADJUDICATE ON"

This needs to become a meme. The 2019 version of "The money was only resting in my account".

[Deleted User]

Bazzo wrote: »

Any time anyone asks me a question I don't want to answer from now on I'm just going to keep repeating their name and shouting "THAT IS FOR A JUDGE TO ADJUDICATE ON"

SEAN

SEAN

SEAN

Stheno

thomond2006 wrote: »

https://soundcloud.com/rte-radio-1/maria-bailey-1?fbclid=IwAR2ifjqtkIClDj63-qWtkc2mI8fObB_ryPBFh7GuR_RDsBZitnw6gagE_b8

Car. Crash.

Is that the swinger interview?

Squidgy Black

"Thats not a level playing pitch, as someone who grew up on the sideline of a GAA pitch, I play fair, I don't play offside"

Wrong sport.

irishbucsfan

As someone who grew up on the side of a baseball diamond I’d say that interview was a slam dunk

Squidgy Black

"how can you sit on a swing with bottles in your hand and not expect to fall?"

"SEAN, I WAS INJURED"

aloooof

She keeps asking for a level playing field. Is she afraid she might fall over again?

Mr Tickle

swiwi_

Hmmmm. The hotel offered to pay...but she still wanted to go to court...to recover roughly 7 grand...despite having private medical insurance.

Then trying to be the victim...media out to get her...running the marathon was part of her recovery plan...bla bla bla.

Insufferable.

[Deleted User]

I just can't believe this is real life.

You would imagine anywhere else he'd have been removed by now on grounds of incapacity. He's fully lost it.

I don't think this counts as a politics post, I mean - it's an old man shouting at a cloud.

thomond2006

Miriam Lord, Irish Times wrote:

Watching them on the news leaving RTÉ, the words of Fr Ted after the disastrous visit of three bishops to Craggy Island came to mind: “Went pretty well, I thought.”

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/miriam-lord-fall-gal-maria-bailey-sees-dark-forces-at-play-1.3906328?mode=amp

:pac:

swiwi_

For those who were wondering

1) Sit on swing
2) Swing

Even a child can manage it

swiwi_

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Clearly the reaction to this shows it’s anything but the “Irish mentality”

Come back to me when Lowry and Healy-Rae have been voted out by an indignant electorate.

To be fair, it’s clear that the vast majority consider her a total chancer, it’s turned into a complete comedy show.

irishbucsfan

swiwi_ wrote: »

Come back to me when Lowry and Healy-Rae have been voted out by an indignant electorate.

To be fair, it’s clear that the vast majority consider her a total chancer, it’s turned into a complete comedy show.

Can you please explain what the Irish mentality is that links a Healy-Rae and this lady? Beyond just some weird opportunity to make some broad racist criticism of Irish people?

troyzer

irishbucsfan wrote: »

swiwi_ wrote: »

Come back to me when Lowry and Healy-Rae have been voted out by an indignant electorate.

To be fair, it’s clear that the vast majority consider her a total chancer, it’s turned into a complete comedy show.

Can you please explain what the Irish mentality is that links a Healy-Rae and this lady? Beyond just some weird opportunity to make some broad racist criticism of Irish people?

Ah settle down, he's not being racist. I think we should be honest with ourselves that our electoral system and parochial nature, in the country anyway, leads to cute hoorism and chancers getting elected.

Squidgy Black

swiwi_ wrote: »

Come back to me when Lowry and Healy-Rae have been voted out by an indignant electorate.

To be fair, it’s clear that the vast majority consider her a total chancer, it’s turned into a complete comedy show.

The Healy-Raes won't be voted out, because the constituency they run in is far from the normal compared to other candidates. They're running in rural south west Ireland, and they try to target farmers and the older electorate in their constituency as looking like men of the people who will stand up for the ways of rural farmers, like with their drink driving proposals etc.

troyzer

Squidgy Black wrote: »

swiwi_ wrote: »

Come back to me when Lowry and Healy-Rae have been voted out by an indignant electorate.

To be fair, it’s clear that the vast majority consider her a total chancer, it’s turned into a complete comedy show.

The Healy-Raes won't be voted out, because the constituency they run in is far from the normal compared to other candidates. They're running in rural south west Ireland, and they try to target farmers and the older electorate in their constituency as looking like men of the people who will stand up for the ways of rural farmers, like with their drink driving proposals etc.

Whilst raking in a fortune on the state contracts for their construction companies.