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Random Waffle Thread

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Lately it has been said that there is not enough interest in the carlow board and that some sort of live needs to be brought back into the board. This although hurtful to carlow inhabitants is a very valid point. Our forum is used enough and we really do need to bump up the number of posters on this forum and show certain other counties in the couth east that we can compete with the "BIG BOYS":D *(patrick knows what i mean by this)

So my input into the idea is to make the forum a bit "looser" and more Enjoyable. My input being this thread. Maybe we could use it to talk about anything at all, no guidelines, usual rules just post on whatever topic you want. Might be a chance for carlow people to get to know each other better outside the debates on current events with regard to the county. Maybe no-one or the mods will see this as an asset to the board but it's worth a shot. As a poster in the soccer forums they have recently started such a thread and it seems to be working a treat as distractions usually do.So use it at you're will and SULLY/DUB13 feel free to make the moderations to it as you deem fit or pm me regarding the matter. Lets see how it goes!

Nothing else to say exept who wants to be the first post???:D

Edit : Please also note that there is a count on the Thread too....As in like if you agree with someone instead of having to post a big long complicate reply just say "+1" or if you disagree "-1" or "-100" dependant of what your views may be...:D

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maccored

i thought the fringe festival was set up to be an alternative to eigse, with more live bands and gigs in the towns venues. this year though, its back to the painting and sculpture that eigse was

Thundercats Ho

Are all of the music gigs free?
I see they've got Pillow Quens / Bitch Falcon / Kormac / Galway street band etc, all listed as free.
That's pretty good in fairness.

Nokia6230i

Why was there a split in Eigse that caused it to become Carlow Arts Festival where "Arts" doesn't seem to be all inclusive (seems to
be mainly pricey pints in plastic pint glasses, "music" incl. some Max Richter yoke that's sold out where people're paying €110 per ticket to sleep in a tent/marquee to listen to!) and Carlow Fringe Festival which seems to be more like what Eigse was, and still should be.

Is there a schism? Did Eigse not want to promote certain art exhibitions, sculptors etc. or weren't doing it sufficiently?

I.e. Tokenistic approach?

Is it a case of more money in the direction Eigse/Carlow Arts Festival've taken and that what Carlow Fringe is doing was weighing them down?

Also when'd it happen? Only in last 3-4 years?

Carlow Fringe're now in Perrys Cash & Carry Building, have another unit on Tullow St. on a temporary basis and one on a more long term basis.; both're beside each other.; think Carlow Photographic Society are under their umbrella too and they've a unit filled beside Dealz.

Surely there's not a sufficient market for both to operate separately; that at least if they were to reunite it'd make more sense and better publicity?

Cos like footfall in Carlow is poor enough for arts & culture (fights outside of Supermacs at chucking out time don't count apparently; you wouldn't get an Arts Council grant for them) without two niche festivals competing against each other?

Also the Piggy Bank yoke?

It started out @ Visual this evening for their (soft) launch 6pm-10pm; I had to laugh when I see their signs & brochure saying it's from Tuesday the 4th to Sunday the 9th; for most people they'll just associate it as being a weekend offering now and within that again, mainly the Saturday and Sunday itself.

Wednesday through Friday it's @ Fairgreen (though presumably it'll actually be inside even if the grounds're also private property & patrolled) from 12 Noon to 6pm. Friday evening it moves over to Festival HQ @ Carlow College 7pm to 12 Midnight & on Saturday it's there from 1-10pm & Sunday it's 1 to 9pm.

With 50 Nuts to open I can't see too many of our "homeless" community bothering to have a go; will be interesting to see where the funds raised do actually go in the end......it'd stink place out of it if they were to end up being for Eigse which is itself a charity....!

iano.p

BabyWillis wrote:

Anyone know if Keltruck on the Oâ€™Brien road is still open? Taught it looked empty in there the last two weeks.

Think it's only temporary closed they are hoping to be back open in the end of September from what I was told.

BabyWillis

Anyone know if Keltruck on the O’Brien road is still open? Taught it looked empty in there the last two weeks.

ScallionAyter

Speaking of holdups - Boylesports beside Supervalu robbed again! They must have thought it was an easy job last week, and returned for more.

D_BEAR

Was wondering what the holdup was.
They got planning for a cafe/restaurant so probably wouldn't cover a takeaway.
http://www.eplanning.ie/CarlowCC/AppFileRefDetails/16372/0

astragte

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I see all signage and advertising for 4 Star Pizza has been taken down form the location they were due to move into.

Apparently there was no planning permission sought from what i has been told by a former employee of the filling station

Agent Coulson

I see all signage and advertising for 4 Star Pizza has been taken down form the location they were due to move into.

Laois_Man

I have little doubt in my mind that a near identical economic crash would have occurred if FG had been in power 10-years ago and in the number of years leading up to it. So I was hoping, in my naivety, that Renua would make a fist of growing into a meaningful alternative - but it seemed like nearly everyone for some reason was dying to see them fall on their arses, and the obliged. But we needed an alternative and we still do

BattleCorp

Laois_Man wrote: »

I wish there was more people with this line of thinking - Unfortunately too many people either never accepted that FF were toxic, or have forgotten it already! And Carlow is one of the worst offenders in this, where even when anger at FF was at it's most palpable at the 2011 General Election, Carlow gave them 10% more votes than the national average and the constituency as a whole was even higher! :eek:

I'd love to vote for someone else other than FF or FG but that's where I come unstuck.

Would I like to see SF in power - absolutely not. Economic suicide.
Would I like to see Solidarity - PBP in power - absolutely not. Economic suicide.
Labour Party - not exactly ringing my bell.
Green Party - absolutely not. Economic suicide. Tax everything 1000%.
Independents for Change - absolutely not. Tax nothing. Free everything. Economic suicide.
Independents - ah here. Look at some of the nutcases that have been elected.

Like it or not, and I don't like it, but I'd rather FF/FG than some of the other looneys.

I would have been a FF voter in the past. Changed to FG because of the balls-up that FF made of the country. But the longer that FG stay in power, the more I see them wasting money left, right and centre. And I'm not happy with that.

But when you look at the alternative, I am not happy with that either.

Laois_Man

Nokia6230i wrote: »

The problem is she expects people to "Vote Carlow". Sorry Jennifer but FF're toxic to a lot of us; always have been & always will be & I for one have never given them a scratch in 23 years of voting.

It's a lazy way of trying to get elected; I'd rather a strong TD yes; but not from FF or SF and I'm not voting either of them just to keep it local or some parochial clap trap like that.

I wish there was more people with this line of thinking - Unfortunately too many people either never accepted that FF were toxic, or have forgotten it already! And Carlow is one of the worst offenders in this, where even when anger at FF was at it's most palpable at the 2011 General Election, Carlow gave them 10% more votes than the national average and the constituency as a whole was even higher! :eek:

Nokia6230i

The problem is she expects people to "Vote Carlow". Sorry Jennifer but FF're toxic to a lot of us; always have been & always will be & I for one have never given them a scratch in 23 years of voting.

It's a lazy way of trying to get elected; I'd rather a strong TD yes; but not from FF or SF and I'm not voting either of them just to keep it local or some parochial clap trap like that.

Laois_Man

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Is she def already selected?

Yes - she announced it only last week

Laois_Man

votecounts wrote: »

If FF were smart, they would go with Phelan as he's a better candidate then Murnane. Whatever happens, I hope Carlow has 2 tds as opposed to 1 now.

Jennifer Murnane O'Connor has already been selected as Fianna Fail's candidate in the next General Election.

Also for Carlow to get two TD's, the Carlow turnout would have to well exceed the turnout in Kilkenny. If last Friday can be used as a barometer, that certainly won't happen!

Nokia6230i

Also getting swallowed up by the other 4 in terms of input in spite of trying to interrupt....

Said that she'd taken a FG seat in first bit......she did in her hole; there were 7 seats and 2 were vacant; Tom O'Neill beat her into 6th place and he wasn't an outgoing Cllr.; so her logic's baffling.

road_high

Wallace on Ivan Yates now- opposes a carbon tax of course ! Agree with her on that

road_high

Wallace on Ivan Yates now- opposes a carbon tax of course !

Nokia6230i

To be fair to Wallace she's now a bit like a square for a round hole.

Who does she align herself to?

Who wants to align themselves with her?

I know she has to sit somewhere but crikey it'll be like 1st Day at Primary or National School.

Charlie Murphy Ind. is Pro Life so no match there.......John Cassin NP maybe?

No chance of her aligning with Labour; Cllr. Quinn is only Labour when it suits and I don't think, if his young wan wasn't gay & he wasn't also participating in by-election at same time that he'd've been on the Vote Yes in Mar Ref; he was a closet Vote No in Repeal so polar opposite to Ms. Wallace.

His party colleague (unusually the only gay AND C of I in the chamber); can't recall him taking a stance on Repeal though he was, openly, a Yes to Mar Ref & campaigned.

Labour gave members a free vote I think.

On H & H FF & FG're the antithesis of what she wants so that's 2 groups of 6 ruled out; if she formed an alliance she'll be regarded as a sell out.

So in reality unless she has specific demands and is willing to acquiesce & compromise she might struggle in terms of policy & motions.

HenryWoods

Will anything change after this local election? NO.
Carlow is still a dump with lot of serious problems.

The Co Councillors have no power, go to any of their Fbook pages and see how they respond to problems ''I rang the County Engineer/Manager, he said X Y Z will be fixed later..'' we voted for messengers.
What have the Councillors been doing the last 5 years? NOTHING.

The hogs and sows that run Carlow were not elected or will they ever be voted out and they sit slopping in their trough in the Council Office on the Athy Road, which is convenient as most of them are blow-ins from Kildare and Laois anyway.
Their just sitting there waiting for the WagonWheel Festival and the Ploughing Championship so they can sit around telling each other how great they are and how lovely their visions of Carlow are.

Wallace will stomp her feet and have little meltdowns on Facebook, but as soon as she's given the form to fill out her expenses claims and is told how things really work as a county councillor, she'll quieten down and do feck all for the next 5 years but spout lefty-commie spiel for her fanbois to lap up.

In local news, Walters has finished trading in the town, it's shut up and gone. Again.

road_high

I thought Wallace was quite sanguine as she knows she only barely got in and hadn’t any massive mandate and certainly no alliances. Apart from rabble rousing in the inside I can’t see much going on

Be well and win

Well one things that can be said for certain is that the Shinners made a complete and utter hames of it in Carlow Town. No fan of Cassin but I bet he's having a good chuckle this morning.

Interesting to see what Wallace will be like now, no harm to shake up some of the numpties in the Council Office but will she try and be pro-active or just be a typical hard socialist and say no to everything. ?

Shame no Green candidate this time around in the town

road_high

votecounts wrote: »

If FF were smart, they would go with Phelan as he's a better candidate then Murnane. Whatever happens, I hope Carlow has 2 tds as opposed to 1 now.

Phelan would get Kk votes. Murnane wouldn’t get many

votecounts

If FF were smart, they would go with Phelan as he's a better candidate then Murnane. Whatever happens, I hope Carlow has 2 tds as opposed to 1 now.

road_high

votecounts wrote: »

I'd say Deering will be worried when the GE comes around, Murnane or Phelan will take his seat

Absolutely. FF hugely strong in Carlow and also Kilkenny. SF seat now on borrowed time

road_high

votecounts wrote: »

I'd say Deering will be worried when the GE comes around, Murnane or Phelan will take his seat

Absolutely. FF hugely strong in Carlow and also Kilkenny.

votecounts

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Looks like we will be a Fianna Fail lead County.

I'd say Deering will be worried when the GE comes around, Murnane or Phelan will take his seat

road_high

She scraped in but I guess she was transfer friendly in the end

votecounts

Carlow is screwed if the best they can produce is Wallace as a Cllr, big drop for SF, should have kept Cassin

Nokia6230i

Wallace has been elected!

Last 3 in Carlow town were JC, Tom O'Neill (Ex Cllr.) & Wallace.

Life in council chambers has suddenly got a whole lot more interesting......pity the council staff she & her supporters harangued in Summer 2017 & Summer 2018 who now have to co-operate with her.

She owes them a big apology for the scummy behaviour; it was outrageous and she'll claim no responsibility or see nothing wrong with it either.